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NC law enforcement banned from military gear program

Posted September 9, 2014

— North Carolina public safety officials missed a nationwide deadline to account for military surplus gear and earned a ban from the controversial federal program that distributes weaponry, heavy vehicles and other military-grade equipment to police officers.

Law enforcement agencies across the state lost access for up to a year to the 1033 Excess Property Program in early March. The ban affects North Carolina police and sheriffs' departments as well as state-run agencies such as the State Highway Patrol.

State and local agencies can neither receive nor transfer any 1033 property under federal rules.


View the complete list of suspended agencies


The federal Defense Logistics Agency, which runs the 1033 program, requires state officials to track the gear they receive annually. In North Carolina, that job falls to the Department of Public Safety, which coordinates how equipment is distributed.

But DPS Communications Director Pamela Walker said that, in October 2013, federal officials announced a new data entry system with additional reporting requirements.

"It was very, very different from what had been required and the internal processes of the past," Walker said. "It was much more detailed, much more technical."

After a departmental reorganization months earlier, Walker said DPS officials discovered that the office responsible for tracking military equipment and weaponry was "insufficiently staffed" for the task. Combined with the state's previous "antiquated" reporting system, Walker said employees decided they couldn't meet the federal government's January deadline.

"At that time, our folks knew that they were not sufficiently staffed," Walker said. "They pulled in people internally, but after a while, they determined they weren't going to make it."

North Carolina is one of only three states, including Minnesota and Alabama, currently suspended.

It took the state another six months, working with the North Carolina Sheriffs' Association, to finish the equipment inventory and submit it to the federal agency in July, Walker said.

She said the agency spent that time gathering the information from agencies across the state. Although she said DPS officials have met the federal reporting requirement, she couldn't say whether the state's 1033 gear is all accounted for.

"I haven't asked that question," Walker said. "I was assured that we have every indication that suspension will be lifted for the state."

That won't come until December, when the DLA completes its next audit.

Meanwhile, the state agency says it won't release specifics about which law enforcement agencies received tactical equipment like rifles and mine-resistant vehicles under the program.

Since the state's early March suspension, three agencies received 29 pieces of general purpose equipment, mostly laptops, through the program.

Walker said the state is permitted to receive equipment if it's requested before the suspension date.

Law enforcement agencies in Jackson County, which the state refuses to identify, also received three .45-caliber pistols after the ban.

DLA Media Relations Chief Michelle McCaskill said federal agencies, which may be included in the county numbers, would not be affected by the ban. The federal agency also refuses to detail tactical equipment by agency.

Questions remain about other agency bans

Reasons for the other agency suspensions were less clear.

Walker said suspensions can occur if agencies don't account for a certain piece of equipment, which under 1033 can be anything from a locker or cargo trailer to a riot shotgun or mine-resistant vehicle. In other cases, agencies may earn a ban for inappropriately transferring gear to other departments.

Although she couldn't speak to issues at the other agencies, Walker chalked up the Highway Patrol's suspension to a "paperwork discrepancy" with a piece of equipment the agency couldn't account for following the transfer of a division in 2004.

Walker wasn't sure what the piece of equipment was or when the error was discovered, although she said it didn't take 10 years to identify.

"It was discovered previously, but it's still on the radar of the federal program," Walker said. "There have been emails back and forth."

She also couldn't be sure officials at the Highway Patrol even knew they were on the suspension list. 

"I'm sure they knew they were being questioned about this piece of equipment," Walker said, pointing out the statewide suspension overshadows individual bans. "I don't think they knew they were suspended."

Calls to six other agencies on the suspension list were not returned Monday. An official at another agency would speak only on background, because he didn't know enough about the details of the suspension.

The Highway Patrol referred questions to Walker at DPS, which oversees that law enforcement agency.

Nationwide review of 1033 program continues

The federal 1033 program has drawn fire from the public in the wake of the police response to protesters in Ferguson, Mo. For days, officers in the St. Louis suburb donned camouflage and body armor, fired tear gas and aimed rifles at residents who gathered in the streets after the shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown by police on Aug. 9.

Critics say the availability of military weaponry in a time of falling crime rates can escalate violence and erode public trust.

The uproar over Ferguson prompted President Barack Obama to order a review of the 1033 program two weeks after the incident. The U.S. Senate began its own hearings Tuesday. 

But Edmond Caldwell, executive vice president and general counsel of the North Carolina Sheriffs' Association, calls much of that criticism "misguided."

"The issue is not whether law enforcement has the equipment," Caldwell said. "The issue is how it's deployed and when it's deployed."

He said much of the equipment agencies receive under the program is only used for extraordinary circumstances that happen rarely.

"You don't go to serve a jaywalking ticket with an M16," Caldwell said. "But if you go into hostage situation, you might need one."

Although a year-long ban isn't crippling, he said a wholesale shutdown of the program would have a significant impact on law enforcement.

"The program is certainly very important to police and sheriff's agencies across the state," Caldwell said.

CORRECTION: A previous version of this story incorrectly reported that a reorganization at the N.C. Department of Public Safety resulted in the office charged with tracking 1033 gear being "insufficiently staffed." Instead DPS officials say they discovered the insufficient staffing of the office after the reorganization.

A previous version of this story also incorrectly reported the amount of general purpose equipment acquired by agencies after the suspension date. That number was 29, not 165.

Search the federal 1033 suspension list

Data provided by the federal Defense Logistics Agency as of Aug. 25 shows agencies suspended from participation in the 1033 program, including the states of North Carolina, Minnesota and Alabama.

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  • Sean Creasy Sep 10, 2014
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    I don't understand why any police department would need a Humvee or better yet a fully automatic M-60 anyway... The Germans let their police force become "militarized" back in the late '30's and look what happened to them...

  • James Grimes Jr. Sep 10, 2014
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    Except for those counties around armed forces installations and the USS North Carolina, military equipment isn't necessary. Even then, it should only be used while working with the armed forces in case of an attack, or for training the various agencies involved.

  • Centurian Sep 10, 2014

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    OSPREYSILVER seems to have a tendency to stretch the truth just a bit.... No NC law enforcement agency has attack gunships and RPGs like Navy Seal Team 6! But then OSPREY believes that the rioting in Ferguson, MO can be described as only "1-2 threw a rock." .....Really???

  • Lysander Sep 10, 2014

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    It is. In the form of militarization, surveillance and stepped up aggression and force against citizens.

  • Joseph Shepard Sep 10, 2014
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    NC law enforcement is suspended from receiving military gear??? A tad slow on the uptake aren't they?? I mean, its smarter to ask which agencies don't already have this type of equipment than which ones won't get it..

  • disgusted2010 Sep 10, 2014

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    Since you seem to be an expert perhaps you should apply to a law enforcement agency.

  • disgusted2010 Sep 10, 2014

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    You continuously post libelous statements without proof. I can't understand why WRAL allows this unless it is because it plays to their anti law enforcement agenda.

  • Justin Case Sep 10, 2014
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    Now you're talking!

  • ospreysilver Sep 10, 2014

    Why do police insist on being equipped like Seal Team 6 when they aren't. Its like the protests in Ferguson, 1-2 protesters throw rocks and the police shoot tear gas and stun grenades. Is it ok to tear gas 200 protesters because 1-2 threw a rock? Police work isn't war, it isn't even in the top ten most dangerous occupations. Farming, fishing, and construction all generate more deaths and injuries each year and all we give them is set of dickies and maybe a plastic helmet.

  • Lysander Sep 9, 2014

    This linkhttp://www.wftv.com/news/suspended-law-enforcement-agencies/which was posted in the other story, lists the same agencies, in the same counties as receiving gear. This list was released first, and states a different reason for the suspension.

    Minarchist - You hit the nail on the head! Now come on over fully. You know you don't need no stinkin' guvernment!

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