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Interpreter for deaf at Mandela event called fake

Posted December 11, 2013
Updated December 12, 2013

— As one world leader after another paid homage to Nelson Mandela at a memorial service, the man standing at arm's length from them appeared to interpret their words in sign language. But advocates for the deaf say he was a faker.

The incident, which outraged deaf people and sign-language interpreters watching the service broadcast around the globe, raised questions of how the unidentified man managed to crash a supposedly secure event attended by scores of heads of state, including President Barack Obama.

"It doesn't take you long to go, 'What?'" said Jeff Braden, dean of the College of Humanities and Social Sciences at North Carolina State University and a former sign-language interpreter.

People fluent in sign language quickly noticed something wasn't right, and many immediately turned to social media. A deaf member of the South Africa Parliament tweeted, "He's making up signs. Please get him off."

The man, who stood about a yard from Obama and other leaders, "was moving his hands around, but there was no meaning in what he used his hands for," Bruno Druchen, national director of the Deaf Federation of South Africa, told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

When South African Deputy President Cyril Rampaphosa told the crowd that former South African President F.W. de Klerk was among the guests, the man at his side used a strange pushing motion unknown in sign language that did not identify de Klerk or say anything about his presence, said Ingrid Parkin, principal of the St. Vincent School for the Deaf in Johannesburg.

The closest the man's gestures came to anything in sign language at that point might possibly be the words for "running horse," ''friend" or "beyond," she said, but only by someone who signs terribly.

Braden sad the man kept "the same sign kind of over and over," which gave him away.

"When you try to make up sign language, you instinctively end up repeating the same signs," he said. "I noticed this guy did a lot of things with (a certain) hand motion. There just aren't that many signs that use that hand motion."

The man's face provided another telling sign, Braden said.

"His facial expression just doesn't just change," he said, noting that the meaning of some signs is based on a facial expression.

While Braden said it was bizarre for a mistake to happen at such a prestigious event, having bad interpreters isn't that uncommon.

"The irony is that most of the people who hire people to interpret wouldn't know the difference between a fake and a real person," he said. "It is, in many ways, truly a crime against (the deaf) because they have no other access in real time to that speech."

Collins Chabane, one of South Africa's two presidency ministers, said the government is investigating "alleged incorrect use of sign language at the National Memorial Service," but has not finished because it has been overwhelmed with organizing the public viewing of Mandela's body in Pretoria and his funeral Sunday in his hometown of Qunu. He did not identify the man, but said the "government will report publicly on any information it may establish."

U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said in response to an emailed question by the AP that "agreed-upon security measures between the U.S. Secret Service and South African government security officials were in place" during the service.

"Program items such as stage participants or sign-language interpreters were the responsibility of the host organizing committee," Donovan added.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest added: "It's a shame that ... a service that was dedicated to honoring the life and celebrating the legacy of one of the great leaders of the 20th century has gotten distracted by this and a couple of other issues that are far less important than the legacy of Nelson Mandela."

Four experts, including Druchen and Parkin, told the AP the man was not signing in South African or American sign languages and could not have been signing in any other known sign language because there was no structure to his arm and hand movements. South African sign language covers all of the country's 11 official languages, according to the federation.

"This man himself knows he cannot sign, and he had the guts to stand on an international stage and do that," Parkin said. "It's absolutely impossible that he is any kind of interpreter. Or a language person at all, because he's not even using a language there."

Nicole Du Toit, a sign-language interpreter who also watched the broadcast, said in a telephone interview that the man was an embarrassment for South Africa.

"It was horrible, an absolute circus, really, really bad," she said. "Only he can understand those gestures."

The man also did sign interpretation at an event last year that was attended by South Africa President Jacob Zuma, Druchen said. At that appearance, a deaf person in the audience videotaped the event and gave it to the deaf federation, which analyzed the video, prepared a report and submitted a formal complaint to the governing African National Congress party, Druchen said.

In the complaint, the federation suggested the man should take the five years of training needed to become a qualified sign language interpreter in South Africa. But the ANC never responded, Druchen said.

A new complaint will be filed to the ANC with a demand for an urgent meeting, he said. The federation did not know the man's identity.

"We want to make a statement that this is a warning to other sign-language interpreters who are fake and go about interpreting," Druchen said. "I am hoping the South African government will take notice of this."

ANC spokesman Jackson Mthembu declined comment.

Bogus sign-language interpreters are a problem in South Africa because people who know some signs – frequently because they have deaf relatives – try to pass themselves off as interpreters, Parkin said. Those contracting them usually don't know how to sign, so they have no idea the people they are hiring cannot do the job, she said.

"They advertise themselves as interpreters because they know 10 signs and they can make some quick money," Parkin said. "It is plain and simple abuse of the deaf community. They are taking advantage of the deaf community to make money."


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  • scubagirl2 Dec 11, 2013

    all this uproar over him getting thru security; what I wan to know is WHY didn't anyone pick up on his fakeness almost right away!

    And the funeral STARTED today and continues for several MORE days....

    You think Fox doesn't skew the news......smh

  • Bill Brasky Dec 11, 2013

    What's the problem with Fox news? Is you preference CBS, ABC or NBC? You know the ones that make up memos and edit video and audio to meet a specific narrative?

    As expected, the article is not accurate. The selfie didn't occur at the funeral, it occurred at the 4 hour concert to memorialize Mandela. The funeral occurred today.

  • Bill Brasky Dec 11, 2013

    "What's the problem with Fox news? Is you preference CBS, ABC or NBC? You know the ones that make up memos and edit video and audio to meet a specific narrative?"

    Oh goodness, the same Fox News that promoted the Tea Party? There is a video on YouTube of a fox producer asking a small crowd of tea party protesters to yell louder, wave their banners to appear larger in size. Or the video Fox used to show the event which wasn't even a video of the Tea Party event, but was a completely different event occurred 6 months before in Washington DC.

  • jgriffith3792 Dec 11, 2013

    Did you really just use a Fox News link as a proof? Bill Brasky

    What's the problem with Fox news? Is you preference CBS, ABC or NBC? You know the ones that make up memos and edit video and audio to meet a specific narrative?

  • 42ITUS Dec 11, 2013

    Side story reads: "Although the deaf listeners were baffled by the interpreter it was reported that the traffic around the stadium was flowing smoothly."

  • Bill Brasky Dec 11, 2013


    Did you really just use a Fox News link as a proof?

  • BurtReynoldsBigHat Dec 11, 2013

    "The POTUS behaves like a teenager with a new toy. The world is laughing at him. Michelle doesn't appear to be very enthusiastic in the following:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/11/obama-creates-international-incident-with-selfie-at-mandela-service/" jaydosse

    Or back in the land of reality, the only "international incident" thing about it was that there were other leaders present. The photographer has already shot down the Fox News lie... I mean, uh, breaking story.


  • outdoor592000 Dec 11, 2013

    He didn't have Obama's teleprompter!! LOL

  • JoConProud Dec 11, 2013

    "He was not faking. He signed, "If you like your plan , you can keep your plan."" americanartworks

    Now THAT is funny!

  • BeastieBoy Dec 11, 2013

    The president doesn't need to solocit the assistance of a fake interpretor to help him appear as stupid as GWB. He's doing just fine all by himself.