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BBQ battle: east versus west

As we continue to take your nominations for Best of Carolina Barbecue let’s talk a little bit about the difference between East and West. Both products are seasoned with salty vinegar and pepper. Western or Lexington barbecue recipes also contain ketchup which is conspicuously shunned down east. Both pork products are slow cooked for 9 or 10 hours and sometimes longer. However, the meat itself is different. They cook the whole hog down east while the Lexington chefs only use the pork shoulder. The western or Lexington meat is dark. It has more fat and moisture.

Some barbecue aficionados will only dine at restaurants that cook their meat in a pit over coals of hickory and oak. Hursey’s in Burlington still cooks its BBQ the old fashioned way over hickory coals. It’s mighty good. I had some on my way to the mountains a few weeks back. Another one of my favorite restaurants is Wilber’s in Goldsboro. What about you? Keep the nominations coming and we’ll start the official vote with a poll on Wednesday.

Also, please share your humorous stories about North Carolina barbecue. Do you prefer East over West and why?  Yes, barbecue is a noun in North Carolina.  It is not an adjective. 

Some of the best barbecue can be found at family gatherings.  Would any of the better cooks out there be willing to share their recipes?  What does it take to make a good product?  How much does it cost?  What all do you need to buy? 

 

 

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"B's" in Greenville, don't look like much for a building, nut you can't beat the que. Personally, I never cared for Parkers in Wilson, but I do recommend Bill Ellis.

My vote for the best bar-b-que is for B's in Greenville. This is my first time sending a comment so hey everybody!

Bill, I'm going to answer your question in the context of the entire BBQ meal(combo plates rule!):

BBQ = Parker's (Greenville & Wilson) Fried Chicken = Parker's BBQ Chicken = McCall's (Goldsboro & Clayton) Bread = Hushpuppies = Wilbur's Cornsticks = Parker's (does anybody else even make them?) Potato Salad = McCall's Cole Salw = Parker's (gotta love that spicy mustard slaw!)

I never knew there was so much to learn about BBQ.

Last year I was invited to a "Pig pullin' in Pullin Park"! Say that 3 times fast! I tried the eastern pulled pork, but forgot to try the roasted pork right off the hog! Maybe this year..:-) It was good.

I like Eastern style BBQ the best. I was raised on it. My dad grew up watching his uncles and men in our home church cooking it. They passed the reciepes on to him. His is really the only BBQ I'll eat. He makes an awsome Brunswick stew to go with it. Always look foward to the annual Chritmas party at the fire station where he works. It's what they serve every year.

By far the best is Danny's BBQ on Hwy 54 in Morrisville/Cary area.

I have to say that the best barbeque in NC is Whispering Pines BBQ in Albemarle, NC. They have been open since 1954. It is hickory smoked and they make a special sauce that you had at the table. I crave the BBQ, slaw (red), tator tots, & a Cheerwine. The restaurant is a little road side diner right on Hwy 52 & the smoker is out back.

I have also come to enjoy Smithfield's but I would never pick Smithfield's over Whispering Pines.

Lexington Barbecue in Lexington, NC. It's the best!

Danny's is delightful. Chris B. emailed this nomination.

Charlie's BBQ & Grille in the Cleveland area of Johnston County has also garnered a nomination.

Best bbq hands down is eastern! The best I have ever had and I have been to Parkers, Bill Ellis are Doug Saul's in Nashville and you can't beat the "pig-n-poke" at King's in Kinston.

I am sorry folks... there is nothing like a Memphis, Kansas City, or Texas BBQ. This vinegar based stuff you call "BBQ" here, just isnt. Its..... vinegar.

As a matter of fact, North Carolina was rated the worst in the Food Networks rating.

And no I am not from Memphis or Kansas City or Texas (Hate Texas as a matter of fact)

Holt's Lake BBQ in Smithfield is mighty tasty

The very best is Hershey's in Burlington and Graham. MMMMMMM. Grew up on it.

I am sorry folks... there is nothing like a Memphis, Kansas City, or Texas BBQ. This vinegar based stuff you call "BBQ" here, just isnt. Its..... vinegar.

Obviously you are not Eastern NC born and bred...LOL

B's BBQ in Greenville, NC is the stuff. Excellent BBQ & BBQ chicken, none of that pulled pork that people above Virginia think is BBQ, and then I would have to say Hog Heaven in Little Washington, NC...always manage to stop there when I'm leaving Tranters Creek.

I have to agree with NCPictures--I can't stand the pickled pork that NC refers to as BBQ! Eastern or Western, it's still pickled pork to me! I like Danny's and the Que Shack--they have different types of sauce (vinegar, ketchup based, etc) that you add yourself. However, where I grew up (not NC!), BBQ was an event, not a meat. And it consisted of anything you wanted to throw on the grill and put BBQ sauce on--burgers, dogs, chops, chicken, etc.

I posted earlier and rate B's the best in NC, but my favorite of all is the Rendezvous in Memphis. I have eaten in Texas but cannot compare because it is beef not pork. To all here, if you have not sampled other types of Q how can you put down anyone else's. Bill asked for your favorite. When you sit down as a guest at someone else's table, it is not good manners to criticize the food.

I have eaten BBQ all over the state. I like eastern as well as western. My favorite places: Bunns - Windsor. Grandpas - Littleton (great turkey bbq too). Carolina Rest. & BBQ - Roanoke Rapids. Fullers - Lumberton. Little Richards - Clemmons. For fast food....smithfield chicken and bbq is pretty tasty too.

I was raised on Bill's and Parkers in Wilson. I have a hard enough time choosing between those 2, much less all the other good BBQ joints you LoGo'rs are talking about. Sorry Bill Leslie I can't help you right now I'm going to get me some port BBQ!!!!!

NCPicture & wildfrench: dem's is fightin' words!

Western sauce is eastern sauce + ketchup. Vinegar based is simply to add a little 'kick' to the meat. (you are not supposed to drown the meat so I don't understand the "pickled" reference). If you cook it right, you don't need add'l flavoring such as ketchup, or even (ugh) mustard, and all the sugar/seasoning found in what most of the country refers to as "barbecue sauce".

Growing up in Gastonia I am very biased to Western. Carolina Country used to be my favorite, but they changed sauces a couple years back and they are now #2. Hillbilly's Barbecue is now my #1 (located on 1-85 at the McAdenville "Christmastown" exit, and on Garrison Blvd near downtown G-town). Great, thick spicy sauce and slow cooked over nothing but hickory. My local fav is the "Q-shack" on University near downtown Durham (a few other triangle locations too, I've heard). I sometimes like the eastern style, but more b/c it is not as finely chopped. I have to agree with some postings here - it really does taste pickled. I know it's off-topic, but St. Louis ribs, SC mustard-style (Melvins near Charleston especially), and Ft. Worth Brisket are tops as well.

It all depends on what you grew up on - personally, I like the Eastern BBQ and yes....BBQ IS a noun here - it is pork, shoulder or whole hog, cooked slowly over a wood, hickory or other - with just a hint of vinegar and red pepper - not drowned and covered up with some thick, pasty tomato-y sloppy sauce - that just covers the taste of the meat - and as far as Food Network, this from the bunch who chose the most inept and woefully lacking Next Food Network Star this go-round; Therefore, I don't hold ANY stock in Food Network's "rating" of our BBQ - Carolina Q is now and always HAS BEEN the very best - whether YOU like it or NOT!

I have to say this battle will be slightly biased considering Raleigh (Home of WRAL) is located in eastern NC. I do not know of a single restaurant in Raleigh that serves Lexington style bbq. (If you do, please inform me!) Therefore, some folks around here may have never experienced Lexington.

That being said, Lexington style is my fave. I've ate Lexington style bbq since I was a little girl. Honestly, I didn't even know that there was such a thing as eastern style. My family didn't travel much to the eastern part of the state and if we did, we never had bbq this way. Since moving here, I've tried many famous Eastern style restaurants and still I can't stand the taste of pure vinegar and pepper. Ketchup FTW!

Anyone ever try Holy Smokes in Garner (Old shiny diner on Chapanoke Rd behind BK) The best brisket ever! (and smoked turkey, ribs, chopped bbq, st louis ribs, awseome sides) and very reasonable!

Well guess it goes to prove it is what you are use to and where you are from...fine with me just leaves more "Eastern" NC BBQ for me and mine...LOL

JMHO: I've eaten there once, and I had the exact opposite opinion. I thought the brisket was terrible (and I was really looking forward to it)It was almost all fat, and what little meat there was was overcooked. I also thought that whole a la carte pricing thing they have was overly expensive.

Maybe I went on a bad night...

I grew up in the East so I'm partial to Eastern style...but you won't see me turn down any Western style. I like it all. Pulled. Chopped. Doesn't matter. The best to me though is when you are at a pig picking and get it straight of the cooker. Pull off some ribs and barbeque and wash it down with oh about a pitcher of SWEET tea...

And if I remember that episode of the Food Network, weren't the 'judges' cowboys from Wyoming or somewhere? In that our Q is so different than what they are used to (a la Texas = cow + ketchup) I knew NC wouldn't stand a chance as soon as the show began. With that said, as many others are stating, most people like what they grew up with. I'm just glad I didn't grow up in Alabama. Why anyone would want to put mayonnaise on a perfectly good chicken is beyond me...

Doug Sauls BBQ in Nashville and Parker's BBQ in Wilson are the best in this ares.

Eastern Style BBQ is the BEST, there really is no competition!!

The Food Network seems to cater to "high end" gourmet cooking from what little I've seen on that channel. Good 'ol NC barbecue (eastern or western style) is something the Food Network is incapable of judging correctly because it isn't gourmet cooking.

Garnerwolf...Sorry you had a bad experience. It's one of my favorites.

Well, I grew up in Winston-Salem and have been living down here with the heathen since 82 (and I still don't like their bbq). I am a bbq nut and I haven't found anything east of Greensboro that I like.

Speedy's in Lexington (http://speedysbbqinc.com/) is #1 followed by Little Richards in Winston.

Even the folks from up north will like Speedy's.

These days if I'm going to have bbq around here, I just cook my own pig and buy 2 gallons of Dip from Speedy's to make it taste like I'm back home.

Actually, the Food Network has an extremely popular show about "Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives" that covers EXACTLY the kind of food we are talking about, including the best barbecue of all kinds, all over---even here. The host, Guy Fieri (I think it is spelled) is a bar food nut and SHOULD live there.

Very enjoyable show I love.....

Try it.

Lexington or Western style BBQ rules! Don't care much for that vinegar soaked mess that some folks call Eastern BBQ. Stamey's in Greensboro and Lexington Barbecue are definitely on the top of my the list for good BBQ.

Closer to where I live down here in Moore County, I like Jackson Bros. (we're not talking about Michael, Tito or Jermaine) in Sanford, Pik-n-Pig in Carthage, and John's BBQ & Seafood in Aberdeen.

I am embarrassed to admit this, but after 10 years of living in Durham, I had my first Eastern BBQ a week ago. Man, I could get addicted to that real quick. It is wonderful--and I didn't even visit one of our top picks!

East wins!!! Salty proved our point. They have to use 2 gals of 'dip' to make it taste like anything. Perhaps if the folks out west learned to cook it properly... :-)

(Jus' funnin')

Parkers in Wilson but also Ralph's in Weldon

I believe there was a guy who used to work for WRAL (I think) who actually had a show or something back in the late 80s and early 90s where he went all over the state to different BBQ joints and wrote about his experience. He wrote a book (the title slips my mind) about the historic BBQ places in NC, eastern and western. I do remember Bob Melton's in Rocky Mount being just about THE oldest. He also had a funny story about B's in Greenville. Because of its location, (near Pitt Memorial) you can go ito B's run down establishment and wait in line behind all of the white-coats from the hospital. Great book, I just cant remember the title.

Eastern Q - B's Barbecue in Greenville, Stephenson's near McGee's Crossroads. Western - Speedy's in Lexington. I'd be hung here in Pitt County for saying this, but I like western-style barbecue once in a while. If you want some good sauce, try Scott's.

When I cook a pig, I cook a PIG (like 100-120 lb) and you need 2 gallons of dip.

I picked one up at the pork store in RTP for a pig picking a year or two ago. He wouldn't fit in the 128qt cooler I had stuck in the back seat of my yellow Mustang GT convertible so I had him perched in the cooler in the back seat with his head and feet sitting up. Of course, I dropped the top and eased back down I-40 to Angier getting a lot of double takes on the way.

I'm with a lot of the rest of you -- B's Barbecue in Greenville is worth standing in line for and if you have never been that is what you will do.

The ribs at B's in Greenville are awesome. You have to get there EARLY to get them though. Boss Hogs in Washington is good too. For Western BBQ, Lexington BBQ is my favorite.

Hurseys is the best in NC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bar B Que Center in Lexington, NC is the BEST!!!

DANNY'S BBQ on Tryon Road in Cary: smoky BBQ served plain--you add your fav sauce (eastern/western/SC). Danny is a friendly guy. Love to go there for a pork sandwich and sweet tea at lunchtime...mmmmmm.

Cape Fear BBQ in Fayetteville on Grove Street.

to MrGup2: That would be Bob Garner's "North Carolina Barbecue: Flavored by Time" and the companion guide to BBQ restaurants across the state. I gave the book to by husband as a gift -- he loves to watch Bob Garner--man, he always makes BBQ or any food look so good (he appears regularly on WUNC/PBS's North Carolina Weekend and in Our State magazine).

Parker's in Wilson without a doubt.

Pete Jones BBQ,Ayden,NC (RIP Uncle Pete)

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