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Lawmakers approve sweeping gun measure

Posted July 23, 2013
Updated July 24, 2013

— The state House and Senate have approved a sweeping package of gun laws that tighten penalties for those who violate firearm laws and expand where those with concealed handgun permits can carry their weapons.

The bill now goes to Gov. Pat McCrory for his signature or veto.

An earlier version of the bill passed by the system would have done away with North Carolina's system of requiring a handgun purchase permit for those who want to buy a pistol but don't hold a concealed handgun permit. The House rejected the bill largely based on this measure.

The compromise passed by by both chambers Tuesday keeps the current handgun permit system in place but gives local sheriffs less latitude in issuing the permits. Sheriffs will no longer be able restrict the number of handgun permits an individual can obtain in a year, something that some sheriffs do now. Also, sheriffs will have to keep a record and show cause when they reject a handgun permit application. 

"There's really no uniformity of practices now," said Rep. Jacqueline Schaffer, R-Mecklenburg. "You can have difference in outcomes in Wake County versus Mecklenburg."

Other parts of the bill will allow concealed handgun permit holders to bring their weapons to bars and restaurants that serve alcohol – although they are not supposed to consume alcohol – carry them in funeral processions and allow them to keep firearms locked in their car when parked on college or public school campuses.

The bill also removes information regarding those who hold concealed handgun permits from public view. 

The bill also strengthens penalties for those who violate firearms laws and will increase the amount of information, such as mental health problems, in the state's background check system. 

Lawmakers OK gun bill that allows concealed weapons on campus, in bars Lawmakers OK concealed guns on campus, in bars

The House passed the measure on a 73-41 vote. The Senate passed the measure on a 32-14 vote. 

Rep. Grier Martin, D-Wake, said he represents a number of colleges and universities in his midtown Raleigh district.

"I haven't heard from a single one of them this bill is a good idea," Martin said.

But Rep. John Faircloth, R-Guilford, a former police chief, said that the college provision merely makes legal something that already happens as parents pick up students or businessmen meet with university executives.

"Let's don't fool ourselves, there are guns on our campuses," Faircloth said. 

In the Senate, backers of the bill said that the expansion of rights for concealed handgun permit holders was appropriate.

Sen. Thom Goolsby, R-New Hanover, noted that those who obtain such permits go through extra training and background checks.

"They're the people we don't have to worry about," he said.

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  • oldrebel Jul 30, 7:45 a.m.

    Still much misinformation about what was actually passed as apparent by some of these comments. For the actual ratified bill . . .

    http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/House/PDF/H937v5.pdf

  • oldrebel Jul 30, 7:32 a.m.

    "Parts of the bill will allow concealed handgun permit holders to bring their weapons to bars and restaurants that serve alcohol – although they are not supposed to consume alcohol – carry them in funeral processions and allow them to keep firearms locked in their car when parked on college or public school campuses.

    The bill also removes information regarding those who hold concealed handgun permits from public view."

    All worthy and needed improvements to existing law.

  • drinfinger Jul 25, 8:38 p.m.

    All I can say is that it's about time. Now on the next go round lets get rid of the restriction of not being able to carry in places like theaters or other places where you "pay admission". Remember the "bad" guys also know where cc permit holders cannot carry and could easily target those areas.
    Vietnam Vet

    That also changed this time tou will be able to carry where admission is charged also at parades/funerals

  • Vietnam Vet Jul 25, 1:36 p.m.

    All I can say is that it's about time. Now on the next go round lets get rid of the restriction of not being able to carry in places like theaters or other places where you "pay admission". Remember the "bad" guys also know where cc permit holders cannot carry and could easily target those areas.

  • JohnnyMcRonny Jul 25, 12:16 p.m.

    "Which part is still confusing you?" - junkmail5

    The part where other proponents on this board state nothing will change. So it's not confusion on my part, it's incoherence on those of others.

    It does nothing to make me feel truly safer. So it's a waste of my money.

  • junkmail5 Jul 25, 8:12 a.m.

    Too bad they could not have eliminated the problems some counties produce by anti gun sheriff's who just want to obstruct. All people buying guns from dealers must undergo a background check, pistols through the county permits and long guns through the FBI NCIS system. The change would have run all purchases through the FBI system.- Frosty

    That's true.... but the change (removing the permit system entirely) would also have meant NO checks, AT ALL, by anyone, for private sale of handguns.

    And that's why so many law enforcement folks were upset about it.

  • Steve Mchugelarge Jul 25, 8:07 a.m.

    So with all that said how can you feel "unsafe" with trained law abiding citizens carrying firearms??
    torchhappysean

    if you're scared then the terrorists have won.

    But it will be nice to go out and not hear a bunch of whining coming from people who suffer from extreme liberal guilt

  • junkmail5 Jul 25, 7:15 a.m.

    If the current law (you mean new law) won't change anything then why on earth is the GA wasting OUR money to change the law???- JohnnMcRonny

    The current law changes where PEOPLE WHO OBEY THE LAW can carry their guns.

    That's the point of the law.

    it does NOT change the fact you can not legally drink, AT ALL, when carrying, regardless of where you are.

    Which part is still confusing you?

  • torchhappysean Jul 25, 7:01 a.m.

    "Welcome to the wild west !!!! Amazed that NC continues to revert to barbaric ways and behaviors. Please Governor..step aside, I do not feel safe. I will not enter any establishment without a sign posted that they are gun free. I cannot smoke a ciggarette in bar or restaruant...but can get shot in the head. m919s".... Your logic is flawed.. If you're going to get shot it will be by someone who has NO regard for the law to begin with. With that said do some reasearch and you'll find that you will not find a case where a CCP holder has been charged with murder... Take that one step further and you'll also notice that there are no reports of innocent bystanders getting shot by CCP holders either... Would be criminals and "gang-bangers" on the other hand didn't give two hoots to begin with... So with all that said how can you feel "unsafe" with trained law abiding citizens carrying firearms??

  • frosty Jul 24, 8:15 p.m.

    It is amazing how much misinformation is being put out by the liberals. Not unexpected, just amazing.

    The new government is fixing things that should have been changed long ago. But that is to be expected when most liberals fear their fellow citizens.

    It is good to see the Republicans honoring their promises.

    Too bad they could not have eliminated the problems some counties produce by anti gun sheriff's who just want to obstruct. All people buying guns from dealers must undergo a background check, pistols through the county permits and long guns through the FBI NCIS system. The change would have run all purchases through the FBI system.

    Years ago sheriffs could restrict purchases on a whim. But a ruling in court that held that was a violation of civil rights put a stop to that.

    When law goes into effect no longer will a CCW holder have to have someone find out if a restaurant serves alcohol before entering.

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