Jobless debt drops, legal changes sought

Posted May 12, 2014

Division of Employment Security

— The McCrory administration announced Monday that the state’s massive federal debt for unemployment benefits is more than halfway repaid.

At a news conference at the Division of Employment Security headquarters, Assistant Commerce Secretary Dale Folwell said the $2.6 billion debt has been whittled down to just over $1 billion within the past 14 months. He said it’s on track for an early payoff, which will save money for employers who face federal tax consequences each year the state owes the money.

“Had the legislature and this governor and this team not made some of the difficult decisions regarding the extension of unemployment, that debt would now be well over $3 billion,” Gov. Pat McCrory said, referring to the 2013 decision to implement unemployment reforms on July 1, rather than waiting until Jan. 1, 2014. That decision halted federal extended benefit checks for more than 50,000 long-term unemployed North Carolinians.

“Instead, we’ve had a debt reduction of nearly $1.5 billion since we’ve been in office. That’s a pretty big improvement,” he said. “We plan to get that to zero three years ahead of time.”

McCrory and Folwell also said they’re asking state lawmakers for two pieces of legislation this session.

As WRAL News reported last year, the division now requires people applying for jobless help to produce photo identification at a face-to-face meeting within the first four weeks of benefits. That change took effect Feb. 1.

“We’re currently asking for it. We need a back-up law,” McCrory said.”We think we’re in jurisdiction now, but we want another law to back us up.”

The other piece of legislation would clarify that the state does not have to release records of contested unemployment cases to attorneys every day. 

Employment attorney Monica Wilson sued the state earlier this year after Folwell announced he would end the 10-year practice of handing out upcoming case notices to lawyers every morning. That practice was a huge boon to local law firms, but Folwell said it was unfair to more distant law firms.

The issue led to a legal standoff. A Wake County judge ordered the state to continue the daily release of records, while the U.S. Department of Labor ordered the state to stop the release, saying it violates federal law.

McCrory said he's asking lawmakers to resolve the conflict.

“We’re going to be asking for permission to stop allowing what we consider confidential information on the applicants that are coming through the employment security area,” McCrory said. “That information belongs to us, belongs to the applicant. It does not belong to the lawyers who want to take advantage of that information.

“We need a law to help us with that, and by the way, the federal government is asking us to pass that law,” the governor added. “We need that law to continue funding.”

McCrory said lawmakers are already working on the records issue, and he expects the photo ID provision will have strong support, too.

Folwell agreed, pointing out that federal law has required a photo ID for employment since the terrorist attacks of 2001.

“If it’s a requirement to get a job, why shouldn’t it be a requirement for unemployment?” he asked.


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  • Kenny Dunn May 13, 2014
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    Just wondering what job you refer to?

  • Matt Price May 13, 2014
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    “Had the legislature and this governor and this team not made some of the difficult decisions regarding the extension of unemployment, that debt would now be well over $3 billion,”

    If they did not do it - the State would pay all of it's GDP to the federal government - which meant no more jobs here as the tax situation would have oppressed everyone.

  • Danny22 May 13, 2014

    That is great. Now let's get busy and finish the job.

  • Dean Logan May 13, 2014
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    Need a photo ID to get a job and to get benefits when you lose that job. Why do Democrats want to keep people from getting jobs?

  • glarg May 13, 2014

    Cleaning up Bev's mess.

  • goldenosprey May 13, 2014

    Great, now we can extend benefits back to 26 weeks again, right?

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    I'd like to see the math on that.

  • Kenny Dunn May 13, 2014
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    So, the debt is being paid off on the backs of the unemployed. I certainly hope when it's paid off the benefits will be restored to previous levels. At least then there is some benefit to those who need it.

  • 68_dodge_polara May 13, 2014

    "that debt would now be well over $3 billion"


  • May 13, 2014

    So it isn't a law, NOW, that you have to show up at a DES office and present a id to be able to get unemployment benefits. How many people have been turned away because they were told it was a law and they did not have the 'required by law' id? Sounds like the current administration is trying to cover up a mistake - again. There is more to this than meets the public eye.

  • teleman60 May 13, 2014

    The state lowered UI taxes 20 years ago when NC was in a housing and jobs glut.

    It was never raised again and it was a catastrophic mistake compounded by McCrory raising it now and using funds NOT TO HELP the 130,000 STILL JOBLESS who now are about to lose homes, cars, everything BUT TO PAY BACK DC.