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Hundreds rally for gun rights

Posted February 5, 2013

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— Several hundred people rallied in downtown Raleigh Tuesday in an effort to halt proposed gun-control legislation on Capitol Hill and to call on state lawmakers to protect Second Amendment rights.

Grass Roots North Carolina, which was founded 20 years ago to protest a national assault weapons ban, organized the event on Halifax Mall outside the legislature as Congress once again takes up the idea of restricting access to automatic weapons and high-capacity magazines.

Paul Valone, co-founder of the group, said no compromise is possible when discussing constitutional rights.

"Compromise in the gun debate denotes a process in which we lose just slightly less than we would have lost under our opposition's original proposal, but we still lose," Valone said. "We don't just lose one debate; we embolden those who would control us if they can. We don't just lose some nasty-looking, so-called assault weapons; we lose freedom."

North Carolina has had a concealed weapons law on the books for almost two decades, and it's time to expand gun rights rather than curtail them. He said concealed weapons should be allowed in schools and restaurants, among other locations.

"Concealed handgun permit holders have spent 18 years proving themselves sane, sober and law-abiding," he said.

Rep. Larry Pittman, R-Cabarrus, said he plans to introduce a constitutional amendment to allow people to carry concealed weapons everywhere aside from schools, courthouses and any private buildings where the owners have posted gun restrictions.

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Paul Valone, Grass Roots North Carolina co-founder Gun rights supporters rally on Halifax Mall

Pittman read the proposed amendment to the cheers of the crowd: "Any attempt to disarm the law-abiding citizens of the State of North Carolina shall be resisted by the full power of the State of North Carolina, and citizens who have committed no crime have the right personally to resist confiscation of their weapons."

Thomas Ross, manager of Sammy's Tap and Grill, on Avent Ferry Road in Raleigh, said he doesn't like the idea of guns in his restaurant.

"I'm all for the right to carry, but I feel it's my right as well to let you in or not," Ross said. "It's just our personal space."

Sammy's customer Eric McBrayer, a gun owner, said he believes the current law is fine.

"I still do believe in Second Amendment rights, but you know, there's a time and a place for everything," McBrayer said.

At the rally, Leon Wilson said the time is right for him and other gun rights supporters.

"An armed society is a polite society, so if you have guns in the hands of good guys, you're going to have a safer society," Wilson said.

Rep. Tim Moore, R-Cleveland, said crime is at the root of the gun debate, and offenders should be punished, not law-abiding gun owners.

Former state Rep. Glenn Bradley said North Carolinians need to understand the state and U.S. constitutions and hold their elected officials accountable to uphold them.

Bill LuMaye, a talk show host on WPTF-AM, compared President Barack Obama to a tyrannical king who is trying to take away the God-given rights of U.S. citizens, and he said the Republican-controlled General Assembly needs to step into the breach and protect North Carolina residents from the federal government.

"The pursuit of life, liberty and happiness and all of that, I think, is absolutely dependent on the Second Amendment," LuMaye said. "Without that, I'm not sure the rest of the freedoms would be around very long."

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  • Lightfoot3 Feb 8, 8:40 a.m.

    "It is not only private citizens who can go "Stupid" with a firearm...what's next ? Do we ban police departments or ex police from having guns ? " - Tomcat123


    It gets worse. So far the police, in looking for this criminal, have shot two innocent women and also fired on another vehicle. The police are armed, spooked, and dangerous.

  • Tomcat123 Feb 7, 7:17 p.m.

    It is not only private citizens who can go "Stupid" with a firearm...what's next ? Do we ban police departments or ex police from having guns ?

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/07/suspect-identified-in-deaths-cal-state-coach-fiance/

  • Tomcat123 Feb 7, 6:42 p.m.

    By strict definition an assault rifle has to be selective fire capable (semi, burst, or fully auto). Semi-automatic-only rifles like the AR-15 or Tommy Gun are not assault rifles, as they are not capable of switching to automatic fire and thus are not selective-fire capable.

    US Army states same
    The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges

    So does Defense Department
    As the United States Defense Department’s Defense Intelligence Agency book Small Arms Identification and Operation Guide explains, “assault rifles” are “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.” In other words, assault rifles are battlefield rifles which can fire automatically.

    Why are anti-gun people, Obama, and Dianne Feinstein trying to include Semi automatic military looking rifles as assault rifles ?

  • Tomcat123 Feb 7, 6:30 p.m.

    @blackops762 I agree, he took guns from the Jews, not the Nazi party or friends of the party.

    It begins with an account of post-World War I chaos, which led to the enactment in 1928 by the liberal Weimar republic of Germany's first comprehensive gun control law. Next, the Nazi seizure of power in 1933 was consolidated by massive searches and seizures of firearms from political opponents, who were invariably described as "communists." After five years of repression and eradication of dissidents, Hitler signed a new gun control law in 1938 which benefited Nazi party members and entities but denied firearm ownership to enemies of the state.

    Later that year, in Kristallnacht (the Night of the Broken Glass), in one fell swoop, the Nazi regime disarmed Germany's Jews. Without any ability to defend themselves, the Jewish population could easily be sent to concentration camps for the Final Solution.

  • Tomcat123 Feb 7, 12:03 p.m.

    @jjsmith1973 Apparently, you missed the point I was trying to make. By strict definition an assault rifle/weapon has to be selective fire capable (semi, burst, or fully auto). Semi-automatic-only rifles like the AR-15 or my 45 Cal Tommy Gun are not assault rifles, as they are not capable of switching to automatic fire and thus are not selective-fire capable. Because they look like assault rifles/weapons or have high capacity mags or were not designed for deer hunting doesn't make them assault weapons.

    And I was referring to the 1934 NFA which banned machine guns and not the 1968 NFA which I think overrode the 1934

    I never said no one could not own a machine gun. I stated (machine gun owners are mostly collectors and it takes a lots of oks/paperwork from government and local law enforcement to own one)

    And, yes if the Feds and Senator Feinstein have their way I believe it will eventually lead to gun confiscation no mater what kind of gun it is.

  • Lightfoot3 Feb 7, 8:41 a.m.

    If you really want a glaring example of how worthless the Kellermann report is, consider the Fort Hood shootings. How was that shooter stopped? While people like Grand Union won’t admit it, lives were probably saved when the shooter was taken down by gunfire. At the very least, the criminal action was brought to an end by the use of a firearm (i.e. if he hadn't received return fire, he would have kept on shooting people until he got tired or ran out of ammo). Yet Kellermann would NOT count this as a case of a gun stopping a crime because the gunman wasn’t killed when he was stopped.

  • Lightfoot3 Feb 7, 8:12 a.m.

    “Only the NRA discredited them. Hardly a non biased source.” - Plenty Coups


    Every logical, intelligent person that understands statistics and reason has discredited them. Google and you’ll find plenty. Better yet, read it yourself. The only time he credits the positive use of a firearm is when the bad guy was shot dead. He doesn’t count wounding. He doesn’t count brandishing. He doesn’t count the thousands of other cases in which a firearm STOPPED the crime.

  • jjsmith1973 Feb 7, 12:26 a.m.

    @blackops762 I'm so sick of the Hitler took the guns comment. No he didn't. He did exactly the opposite. He relaxed the gun regulation that were put in place before he took power. GOD read a history book!

  • beachboater Feb 6, 5:14 p.m.

    hey GRAND UNION!!!!! Why don't the Brits ban bombs? I think there have been more killed / injured by bombs in England than in the U.S.

  • Plenty Coups Feb 6, 3:24 p.m.

    "Kellermann? The one that produced flawed analysis because he only counted DEAD bad guys instead of wounded, held at bay, scared off, etc.? His work has been discredited many times over."

    Only the NRA discredited them. Hardly a non biased source.

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