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House, Senate remain at odds over Common Core

Posted June 19

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— House and Senate leaders appear no closer than before to reaching agreement on a bill to repeal the state's Common Core education standards.

The House Education Committee met Thursday afternoon to discuss the Senate proposal, which is slightly less stringent than the House measure.

The version approved by the Senate, Senate Bill 812, directs a new state commission to study standards nationwide, including Common Core, and choose the best set for North Carolina schools. The House doesn't want the commission to consider Common Core when selecting new academic standards.

The Senate version is the preference of the North Carolina Chamber and Gov. Pat McCrory. 

But the version that was presented – as a "proposed committee substitute" for S812 – was the same as House Bill 1061, the bill the House already passed.

Sen. Jerry Tillman, R-Randolph, the sponsor of the Senate bill, was displeased that he was not told about the substitution of the House language. He told the committee it's the first time there's been a proposed committee substitute for one of his bills "that I was not given the courtesy to see first." 

Rep. Craig Horn, R-Union, said the two bills are much alike but said he and Tillman have "a difference of opinion."

"I'm sure we can sit down and work something out," Horn said.

The panel approved the substituted measure 25-17, largely along party lines. 

The House could vote on the Senate bill next week. After that, it would likely go to a conference committee.

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  • Plenty Coups Jun 24, 12:06 p.m.

    Can someone cite one specific standard in the Common Core that kids should not be expected to... View More

    — Posted by kdogwnc

    Do vague, unsubstantiated, and wildly exaggerated talking points from right wing blog sites count?

  • kdogwnc Jun 21, 10:03 p.m.

    Can someone cite one specific standard in the Common Core that kids should not be expected to learn, or some item of learning not in the Common Core standards that kids should be expected to learn?

  • emil Jun 20, 4:53 p.m.

    There should be no divide, common core is garbage. LA's Governor is now dumping it and he just... View More

    — Posted by NoMoreOfThat

    "Enough talk" is right, so let's look at the facts. The business community supports Common Core, and high school graduates will someday be working for them. If we want the economy to improve in NC, then we might want to listen to the business community rather than making party-line decisions that negatively impact the people they were elected to represent.

  • Java Jun 20, 3:50 p.m.

    So people from a variety of states looked at standards from across the nation and developed the common core. Now the NCGA is saying they want us to look at standards from across the nation to come up with new NC standards.
    Yeah......that makes sense.

    Meanwhile some of us who actually teach kids are working on curriculum based on the common core standards and wondering if next year we'll end up having to rewrite everything.....again.

  • krimson Jun 20, 2:12 p.m.

    JNC: "what exactly should teachers teach?"

    What??? Do we really expect the knee-jurk reactionaries on the Right to have a real workable solution to anything??? They'll foam at the mouth about "Federal Takeovers", then blame the same Feds for inaction when their children keep falling further and further behind the rest of the civilized world...

  • jnc67 Jun 20, 2:04 p.m.

    Common Core needs to eliminated before the school year begins this August.

    — Posted by jwbmom1965

    What, then, are teachers supposed to teach? They have spent two years re-working curriculum, re-writing assessments, re-addressing student needs. If you want CC to be "eliminated before August" what exactly should teachers teach?

  • jwbmom1965 Jun 20, 1:40 p.m.

    Common Core needs to eliminated before the school year begins this August.

  • archmaker Jun 20, 9:35 a.m.

    common educational standards developed by local and state leaders - as soon as the federal government endorses the idea, it becomes a "federal take over of education."

    individual mandate for insurance idea developed by republicans - idea endorsed by the president and suddenly its a "federal take over of your healthcare."

    I see a pattern...

  • jackjones2nc Jun 20, 6:47 a.m.

    COMMON CORE was developed by states and businesses and is widely accepted for implementation. This tool for minimum standards is critical for states that choose to be economically flexible and successful. The Republican strategy of misinformation and ignorance will backfire, and our children will suffer.

  • iopsyc Jun 19, 4:36 p.m.

    There should be no divide, common core is garbage. LA's Governor is now dumping it and he just... View More

    — Posted by NoMoreOfThat

    Is it possible he's publicly against it simply to garner votes with his base? The individual he appointed to run education in that state supports Common Core and has indicated they will continue to implement it.

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