House passes tax plan

Posted June 10, 2013
Updated June 11, 2013

— The state House voted a second time Monday night to approve its tax reform package, sending the bill to the state Senate. 

Lawmakers first approved the bill on Friday, but the state constitution requires bills changing how revenue is raised to be heard and voted on two separate days.

There is widespread agreement that North Carolina needs to rework its badly antiquated tax code, first drafted in the 1930s and only tinkered with ever since. However, different groups differ on how best to accomplish that reform.

"It's going in completely the wrong direction," Rep. Grier Martin, D-Wake, said of the bill. This proposal before you now moves us out of the 20th century and into the 19th."

But proponents of the measure, which lowers income taxes in favor of applying sales tax to more services, say that it will help spark economic growth.

"This bill sends a clear, clear message, not only to businesses in North Carolina, but across the nation and across the globe, that we value the businesses that are already here and we welcome businesses to relocate here," said Rep. John Szoka, R-Cumberland.

It's unclear what will happen next. The Senate has its own competing tax reform proposals, and lawmakers will be unable to pass a state budget until they agree on the basic outlines of a tax package, or at least how much money a new tax system would raise.


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  • Plenty Coups Jun 11, 2013

    "not sure about ya'll, but EVERY job I've ever gotten, I got from a poor person!"

    entrepreneurs capitalizing on demand for new ideas and products are the primary source of new jobs. Most of them aren't rich. Regressive tax policies and the undercutting of the educational system help insure that it will be much harder for those real "job creators" to get an real opportunity.

  • Plenty Coups Jun 11, 2013

    HockeyPlayer-"Tax cut = defacto raise. Just saying."

    Lets see, a $10- perhaps $400 tax cut or perhaps a rise in taxes for an average teacher whose average salary is about $40,000 less than the leading educational state, Massachusetts. I wonder what they'd prefer since they're at the very bottom in pay?

  • teddyspaghetti Jun 11, 2013

    not sure about ya'll, but EVERY job I've ever gotten, I got from a poor person!

  • arfamr1008 Jun 11, 2013

    The rich spend thousands on lawyers, accountants, landscapers and lots of other services that middle and lower class don't use and will now be taxed for those services. Don't let facts get in the way

  • Plenty Coups Jun 11, 2013

    "More money does not equate to more results"

    Awesome logic! Lets tell every company out there that no one should ever again get a raise because "more money does not equate to more results". Money somehow doesn't matter anymore when it comes to funding things against your ideology, huh?

  • HockeyPlayerX Jun 11, 2013

    "I'm sure she'll be thrilled to know that republicans are once again telling her that there will be no raises this year. They even try to claim there's "no money" which is a total lie. They have 770 million stockpiled for tax cuts."

    Tax cut = defacto raise. Just saying.

  • geosol Jun 11, 2013

    What REPUBLICANS SAY to get elected, "No new taxes!!"
    What REPUBLICANS DO when elected; new taxes on goods and services and lower taxes for millionaires.

  • oldaltar Jun 11, 2013

    Prov. 28:27 If you give to the poor, your needs will be supplied! But a curse upon those who close their eyes to poverty

    Prov. 14:31 Anyone who oppresses the poor is insulting God who made them. To help the poor is to honor God.

    Check out Psalm 82:3 (The Voice) – “Stand up for the poor and the orphan; advocate for the rights of the afflicted and those in need.” Or how about James 1:27 (NCV) – “Religion that God the Father accepts as pure and without fault is this: caring for orphans or widows who need help, and keeping yourself free from the world's evil influence.”

    The Lord does not change and He still cares about these things.

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  • arfamr1008 Jun 11, 2013

    Except, what entitles them to MY money?- Terkel

    What in the WORLD are you even talking about?

    Nobody's asking you to give them YOUR money.

    We're asking the NC government to not take MORE of THEIRS. Because they have none to spare.

    Which is what the GOP tax plan does.

    But in 2007/2008 gas prices were Bush's fault?- arfamr1008

    No, that was a dumb argument when the left made it then about Bush, and it's a dumb argument when you are making it now about Obama

    Two dumbs don't make a right.

    If the poor spend 100% of their income... how will taxes on services break the bank for them?

    WAITING!!!!..... arfamr1008

    Uh... basic math?

    Seriously, are you actually asking how raising taxes on people who have 0 extra money will break them?

    All you people keep spitting this 80% number but their isn't a shred of evidence that supports it- arfamr1008

    again, other than math... a subject you really ought learn.
    Junk mail

    I didn't expect any answers and didn't get any. Typical liberal