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House Dems accuse Tillis of abuse of power

Posted July 15

House Minority Leader Larry Hall, D-Durham

— House Democrats are accusing Republican Speaker Thom Tillis of abuse of power for refusing to release funds for caucus staff and using parliamentary maneuvers to cut off debate.

Minority Leader Larry Hall said Tuesday that Tillis "has decided to defund the House Democratic caucus."

Hall, D-Durham, also said House Republicans have used "tabling" to cut off debate in the current session more than twice as many times as it was used by Democrats from 2001 to 2009. 

"It's a disturbing and destructive pattern of persecuting those who don't agree with whatever the leadership says they want to have done," he said.

Leaders of both the majority and minority caucuses are traditionally allowed at least one full-time staffer to coordinate meetings, communicate with members and help with research and bill drafting. The money for those staffers is allocated in the state budget.

Hall told WRAL News that he, Tillis and other leaders had agreed on a 2014 budget of $85,000 for staff for the Democratic caucus. 

However, Hall said, the speaker changed his mind and refused to release the money or approve the caucus' request to hire a chief of staff because of Hall's outspoken opposition to new legislative building rules.  

Hall said Tillis counsel Ray Starling told him that his comments at the Legislative Services Commission meeting on the new rules offended Republicans on the panel.

"I was told that, unless I apologized to the members of the Legislative Services Commission for objecting to the new rules, we would not be funded," he said.

At that May 15 meeting, Hall accused Republican leaders of implementing the new rules to try to shut down "Moral Monday" protests. A judge later found some of the provisions to be too vague to be enforced or unconstitutional. 

"I promptly offered to resign my seat on the commission, but I was not going to apologize for saying what I thought was right – and what the court ultimately concluded was right," Hall said.

According to Hall, Rep. Skip Stam, R-Wake, has a staff budget of $153,000 as speaker pro tem. House Rules Committee Chairman Tim Moore, R-Cleveland, has a budget of $64,512. House Majority Co-Leader Edgar Starnes, R-Caldwell, has a budget of $45,999, plus a legislative assistant. 

The Speaker's office budget, although staffing varies, has fluctuated between $800,000 and $900,000 in annualized salaries since 2013.

In contrast, Hall said, "The total we've had for the whole year is $8,000."  

After trying unsuccessfully to resolve the issue through Tillis' staff, Hall said he sat down with Tillis to ask for an explanation. He said Tillis told him he didn't believe the Democrats needed a staffer but agreed to pay for one for four weeks – through the end of June. Hall says Tillis assured him the session would be over by then. 

Hall and fellow Rep. Grier Martin, D-Wake, pointed out that House Democrats, though in the minority, represent some 3.5 million of the state's voters and that the caucus chief-of-staff helps support constituent services.

"Traditionally, the party in power has funded the other party and provided a minimum level at least of staffing support," Hall said. "We're being persecuted for not agreeing with and going along quietly with whatever's being done."

"Using petty threats to cut off staff that enables the minority party to advance its voice, that is a step away from a democratic system," Martin added.

Tillis's spokeswoman Anna Roberts declined to respond to the allegations. 

"We don't usually comment on personnel issues, but look forward to continuing to work with Rep. Hall, and with Democrats genuinely interested in moving our state forward." 

Roberts also declined to comment on the use of parliamentary procedure to cut off debate. 

23 Comments

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  • redstarlean Jul 16, 11:20 a.m.

    The track record of the Dems is poor. They are most likely not telling the truth about Tillis... View More

    — Posted by unaffiliated69

    "communist governing ways"
    Well so much for any intelligent conversation

  • redstarlean Jul 16, 11:12 a.m.

    Hope the republicans are enjoying themselves! With the demographic shift in a few short years they will be the very marginalized neo confederate party.

  • iggyo1 Jul 15, 3:29 p.m.

    These types of actions by the GOP will, in fact, keep the GOP out of NC politics for years to... View More

    — Posted by wraluser


    I am guessing his rely should have been sue me. The funny part is Super Hans comments about unconstitutional issues. Tillis must have his sights set on a Pennsylvania Ave address in DC then.

  • flanneldaddy Jul 15, 2:55 p.m.

    Typical of the underhanded Tillis. He pulls this stuff all the time.

  • wlbbjb Jul 15, 2:48 p.m.

    It's nice to see that WRAL ran with the article without input from both sides of the argument. Why have balanced jouranlism, it would only promote consideration of both sides of an issue and not likely evoke the emotional outbreak (as evidenced in many comments).
    JEFFJOHNSON123
    It's not too late to hear Mr. Tillis's response. I'm sure all the people who have commented would love to know what his response would be.

  • wraluser Jul 15, 2:34 p.m.

    These types of actions by the GOP will, in fact, keep the GOP out of NC politics for years to come, then we will hear the GOP sympathizers cry about how their voice is not heard and ask why is this happening... these actions by the GOP are why...

  • wraluser Jul 15, 2:31 p.m.

    It's nice to see that WRAL ran with the article without input from both sides of the argument.... View More

    — Posted by jeffjohnson123

    Regarding your comment, WRAL did try to include comments from the other side, but "Tillis'... View More

    — Posted by Plum Tuckered

    So another advocate for "run the story as long as my side's input is included"? And we wonder... View More

    — Posted by jeffjohnson123

    Tillis's actions are why we have divisions as is the case with the rest of the GOP NCGA...not reporting of a story that Tillis refused to comment on...

  • wraluser Jul 15, 2:29 p.m.

    It's nice to see that WRAL ran with the article without input from both sides of the argument.... View More

    — Posted by jeffjohnson123

    Tillis declined to comment. Typical...

    — Posted by wraluser

    That's not what I read. They had not received a comment before the article was published. It was... View More

    — Posted by jeffjohnson123

    Tillis made his decision not to respond. Why is that WRALs issue?

  • wraluser Jul 15, 2:27 p.m.

    It's nice to see that WRAL ran with the article without input from both sides of the argument.... View More

    — Posted by jeffjohnson123

    Regarding your comment, WRAL did try to include comments from the other side, but "Tillis'... View More

    — Posted by Plum Tuckered

    So another advocate for "run the story as long as my side's input is included"? And we wonder... View More

    — Posted by jeffjohnson123

    Tillis had a chance to respond but chose not to... His choice... Why should WRAL not run the story? WRAL has no obligation to not report just because someone says no comment...

  • recontwice Jul 15, 1:54 p.m.

    So, this guy rightly opposes unconstitutional rules, and this is how Tillis acts? What a joke,... View More

    — Posted by Super Hans

    Rember that this is the petty bought and paid for Pope puppet that republicans want to send to the Senate!

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