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Gun-rights backers demand House vote on bill

Posted May 19, 2015

— Gun-rights supporters on Tuesday called on House members to schedule a vote on an omnibus firearms bill that has twice been put on hold in recent weeks amid growing opposition.

House Bill 562 includes provisions expanding the ability of people to have guns on school, reducing the number of crimes for which someone can be turned down for a conceal carry permit and allowing guns to be carried on the State Fairgrounds, except during the annual State Fair.

The most controversial portions of the bill would eliminate the state's pistol permit provision and would prevent physicians from asking patients in writing whether they own or have access to guns and then bar them from passing information about patients and guns to law enforcement, even if a patient poses a threat to self or others.

Sheriffs have opposed the end of the pistol permit, which requires a state background check, while physicians groups have expressed concern about the proposed rules for doctor-patient interactions.

Paul Valone, president of Grass Roots North Carolina, said Tuesday that both concerns are misguided and called opposition "political in nature and part of national agendas."

Valone questioned whether pediatricians, who routinely question families about guns in the home, have the training to determine whether firearms are properly secured. He also called the pistol permit a relic of the Jim Crow era that is applied unevenly across the state.

"We have 100 sheriffs and 100 sets of issuing criteria," he said, noting that Durham County requires notarized character affidavits from people seeking a permit to buy a gun.

The state permit, which is good for five years, could actually defeat the point-of-purchase federal background check, Valone said, noting that someone who commits a crime – disqualifying them from gun ownership – could use the permit to bypass a subsequent federal check.

The federal check isn't available for private gun sales, but he said opponents overstate how often private sales occur.

Valone said national medical organizations have a longstanding antipathy toward guns. Still, Grass Roots has suggested language for the bill that would allow physicians to disclose information about a patient's access to guns to law enforcement when "medically relevant," he said.

"This bill does nothing to hamper the doctor-patient relationship or the treatment," he said.

Valone set up former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg as the bogeyman in the fight over the North Carolina legislation, saying the "billionaire anti-gun zealot" is bankrolling a $1 million effort to block the bill.

Grass Roots is combating a statewide television advertising campaign opposed to the bill with an effort of its own in the Raleigh and Charlotte markets. Josette Chmiel, the group's director of development, said the ads will feature mothers in North Carolina, and she had several women speak up during a news conference that, "Michael Bloomberg does not speak for me."

"Your gun control and your attempts to control people are not welcome here," Chmiel said.

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  • Chris Weaver May 20, 2015
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    "Valone set up former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg as the bogeyman in the fight"
    Errrr nice slight WRAL.... had you done your job... you would hav ediscovered indeed Bloomberg is bankrolling the opposition here and around the country.
    Please try to keep your opinions out of the "reporting". I understand if you are a UNC J school grad that may be hard...

  • Chris Weaver May 20, 2015
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    "Valone set up former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg as the bogeyman in the fight"
    Errrr nice slight WRAL.... had you done your job... you would hav ediscovered indeed Bloomberg is bankrolling the opposition here and around the country.
    Please try to keep your opinions out of the "reporting". I understand if you are a UNC J school grad that may be hard...

  • Sean Dowe May 20, 2015
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    I've dedicated a significant amount of time and money to electing Republicans. If they turn Demo-Lite on me , I'll actively campaign for WHOEVER runs against them.

    Pistol "permits" were designed to limit access to self protection to Blacks. Is that really a useful legacy in this day and age?

    The anti-gun zealots have NO data to support claims that increased gun ownership raises violent crime...in fact data shows the opposite, but they , aided by their WRAL allies are relentless in fabricating hysterical "what ifs"

  • Scott Mace May 20, 2015
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    www.justfacts.com... through 2008.

  • Hondo Creech May 20, 2015
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    You are coming up with those numbers, not me. Everything I see as of 2013 shows that murders are down. One can only imagine what the murder rate would be if handguns were still allowed in the United Kingdom.

  • Scott Mace May 20, 2015
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    Hondo, did you read a word of what I said? I said that the GUN murders were indeed down in England/Wales, but the OVERALL murder rate was up. Whether or not the criminals prefer guns over another method is completely irrelevant, they're still killing more people with strict gun control laws in place. Whether that's coincidence or causality is hard to tell.

    So, 52% and 15% increase in OVERALL murder rates, and you say "at least it wasn't with a gun"?

  • Scott Mace May 20, 2015
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    Hondo, did you read a word of what I said? I said that the GUN murders were indeed down in England/Wales, but the OVERALL murder rate was up. Whether or not the criminals prefer guns over another method is completely irrelevant, they're still killing more people with strict gun control laws in place. Whether that's coincidence or causality is hard to tell.

    So, 52% and 15% increase in OVERALL murder rates, and you say "at least it wasn't with a gun"?

  • Tal Lugen May 20, 2015
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    You mean people that you don't agree with have control? I support the NRA, I vote for people like the current NC legislature. As a matter of fact, a majority of us do...the NRA and the NC Legislature are carying out the voters' will.

    You just happen to be in the minority.

  • Mark Cline May 20, 2015
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    I see that Screech's true colors showed up while I was away.

    Hey, Screech, this is not England. We are a free people, not subjects.

  • Mark Cline May 20, 2015
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    Fact: The current PPP process, even when properly utilized by the public and the sheriffs, leaves huge holes in the transfer of handguns.

    Fact: Most people don't know the law, or choose to ignore it in transfers between friends, family, gifts and inheritance.

    The current system is allowing people to slip through who would go through a licensed dealer if it were more convenient. Thereby, actually increasing the number of background checks because people will do whatever is convenient.

    Fact: The current system is unenforceable and has not been enforces. It was only used to further racist goals of the sheriffs and their cronies.

    That crowd is trying to make it seem that HB652 us designed to do away with background checks. Nothing is further from the truth.

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