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Senate passes Voter ID bill
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Groups mobilize against voter ID proposal

Published: 2013-01-23 12:06:00
Updated: 2013-01-23 19:31:40

A group of left-leaning organizations said Wednesday that requiring voters to present photo identification at the polls would "stack the deck" against fair and open elections in North Carolina.

Republican legislative leaders say they plan to consider a voter ID bill when the General Assembly reconvenes next week. The GOP-controlled legislature passed an ID bill in 2011 that was vetoed by former Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue. New Republican Gov. Pat McCrory has said he supports an ID requirement for voting.

The NAACP, the American Civil Liberties Union, Democracy North Carolina, the Southern Coalition for Social Justice and other groups are mobilizing to oppose the legislation. They have launched the ProtectOurVoteNC.com website for people to lobby lawmakers and share stories of how an ID law would hurt them, and they plan to start airing anti-voter ID public service announcements across the state this weekend.

"Why is this on the agenda at all?" Rev. William Barber, state president of the NAACP, said at a news conference. "North Carolina elections are working."

Barber noted that GOP lawmakers, including Rep. Paul Stam, R-Wake, backed a 2003 law that called for voters to provide their signature to attest their identity under penalty of a felony charge. No one has shown that the law isn't working, he said.

"There's no epidemic" of voter fraud, he said. "It's an overstatement to call it minuscule."

Rep. Harry Warren, R-Rowan, said North Carolina needs more than books of signatures to ensure elections are fair.

"I don't think the signature statute holds muster to what the people out there want," said Warren, who is drafting a voter ID bill for the coming session. "We took an oath to uphold the Constitution, and part of that is protecting the integrity of the vote."

Bob Hall, executive director of Democracy North Carolina, estimated that anywhere from 100,000 to more than 500,000 of the 6 million registered voters in the state don't have a photo ID. Blacks are 40 percent more likely than whites to fall in that group, he said, adding that seniors, women and young voters also would be disproportionately affected by an ID law.

"Why does the state want to spend millions of dollars to put up a stupid barrier for people who are legitimate voters?" Hall said.

Previous voter ID proposals haven't addressed people who cast mail-in absentee ballots, and Hall noted those voters are more likely to be Republican.

"The Republican Party is trying to use the political process – to manipulate the political process – for their own advantage, and that's wrong," he said.

Barber, Hall and others said lawmakers should instead use federal Help America Vote Act funds to help county elections officials beef up training and staffing at the polls. Also, they said, the state should invest in computerizing national voting records and back efforts for national voting standards.

"We want integrity (in elections), and we have supported things that would bring integrity," Barber said. "Let the elections be broad and open, and let the chips fall where they may. Don't stack the deck ... with voter ID and claim we've have a fair and free election."

Warren said he wants a bill that's fair and balanced but understands not everyone will be happy with it.

"In the final analysis, we'll have a good photo ID bill that will protect integrity of the vote and address concerns these groups are expressing," he said.

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The only one`s who oppose, are the one`s that have something to hide!

Why should showing your photo ID interfere with you voting? Obviously, anyone can sign anyone’s name without penalty even though it’s a “felony” but who really has been charged for that. If you have a photo ID show it. I’m all for photo ID’s. I’m a registered voter, I vote, I have a photo ID I will be very happy to show my ID to vote.

I don't understand the screams of anguish from groups such as the NAACP that photo voter ID's will suppress or prevent voter participation.

If a voters are able to get to the polls to vote, now, without a photo ID, how does requiring a photo Id suddenly prevent them from getting to the polls to vote?

This creative victimology controversy SHOULD serve as a wake up call. You have two(2) years to get your photo Id and/or register to vote before the next state wide elections. If you can not manage to obtain the prescribed ID before November 2014 how will you manage to get to the polls and vote?

But they go out of their way to get "special" ID's if they want entitlements...go figure...

"Previous voter ID proposals haven't addressed people who cast mail-in absentee ballots, and Hall noted those voters are more likely to be Republican."

Mr. Hall, let's make a deal then. Voter ID's and no absentee ballots or early voting for anyone. The only exception is for those who will be out of the country on voting day. Those people will need to vote, in person with ID, at an U.S. embassy or military based between Oct. 1st and the election day.

Pat please push this through. Voters should have some valid id indicating they are a US Citizen before they should be able to vote. We don't allow people in foreign countries cast votes in our elections, why should non-US Citizens living her the ability to cast a vote?

There is no legitimate argument against requiring a voter to show ID. Enough said!

Good job WRAL in at least admitting that they were left-leaning.

Mobilize if it makes you feel better, but you are going to show ID from now on to vote.

Just like you do for everything else of lesser importance in your confusing world.

"North Carolina elections are working." Wait until somebody he doesn't supports wins.

As long as the law is passed in plenty of time for voters who don't have IDs to get them, you have no legitimate excuse for opposing this law.

Complain, complain, complain. All the democrats and NAACP do is complain about this voter ID issue. What's the big deal? In our country you have to have an ID to: see the doctor, have surgery, buy a car, get a loan, buy a house, etc, etc, etc.

If you've nothing to hide what is the big deal. I bet their president even had to have an ID to get elected.

So I suppose if I were to go to Mexico illegally, stay a while, then I should have the right to vote in their election even though I am not a citizen in their country. This essentially is what the NAACP is indicating is okay except for our country instead. Their protest does not make sense.

How on earth could it "stack the deck against fair and open elections"? That's idiotic. Right now the elections w/o voter ID are not fair because there is too much voter fraud because we don't require someone to prove they are who they say they are.

Why don't these organizations spend their time getting the people they supposedly represent to get the photo IDs?

I'm sorry but I don't see how it is possible the NC thinks they have had fair elections without Voter ID requirements. If they say it will disenfranchise the poor, the elderly and our vets, I would like for them to tell me how they get Welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid/Medicare and VA benefits without having an ID. I have to show my state issued photo ID for way too many things that have less far reaching impact so I am all for having to prove who you are before you can cast a ballot for your governmental representatives.

why not call it what is? It's voter suppression bill. republicans are doing everything they can to make it more difficult for minorities, the elderly and the young to vote. Why? Because the vote for Democrats.

Exactly. Dr offices are requiring ID to prove the identity of the patient. Not hearing any outcries regarding that being unfair to the poor or any certain ethnic group. No different. It's a way of preventing fraud.

We need voter ID. Just in my county, a public official was caught trying to vote twice. She said she "forgot." It was publicized in the local newspaper but she got away with it because of who she was.

Can the republican legislative leaders not find anything else to do?

I don't understand why voter identification is even an issue. Any type of transaction you perform nowadays requires some type of identification. When was the last time you wrote a check and someone didn't ask for identification. Times have changed and because of that an "X" on the dotted line, a hand shake or a signature is no longer enough. Identity theft has become so much of an issue these days. Don't you think voter fraud is an issue just the same. Why do people feel proving who you are is such a difficulty. Voter registration should be a nationwide requirement.

momeee, voting is a constitutional right so who is going to pay for this? The GOP will not pay for education, you actually think they will pay for this waste? Show me the data that there is even a modest amount of voter fraud and I might support this but until then it smells like a way to get people who usually don't vote GOP to not vote at all. How about some/any effort on jobs?

Dis Barber use the word "integrity"? The H==l you say!

When I went to vote, all i did was say my name. Didn't even have to give an address or show any ID. "They asked do you live at 123..." "Sure, that's me" And off to vote. I could have been anyone who just knew a name and their voting location.

"Why is this on the agenda at all?" Rev. William Barber, state president of the NAACP, said.

You know the answer Rev...voter fraud! How can you have 105% voter turnout? The math doesn't work. EVERY state should require photo ID's. With the level of technology available nowadays this would be easy to fix.

Why does this make it difficult for anyone to vote?? If you are in the country legally, and drive, then you have picture ID! You should have to prove that you are registered to vote and in the country legally!

dennis8 - Pay for what? Each individual has to pay for their own ID. It's called personal responsibility. You really think someone would not vote at all rather than get an ID? To me that would beg the question - why won't they get an ID? What are they hiding?

Looks like a solution seeking a problem to me. We don't have widespread in-person fraud at the polls. There are a few problems with folks voting more than once either at multiple polling stations or by mail-in ballot. Unfortunately this won't solve those.

i think what some of you are failing to grasp is that requiring someone to have and ID to vote is requiring them to spend money in order to vote. It does not matter the amount or what it is ultimately for, but requiring someone to pay money in order to vote is a poll tax. This issue was put to bed well over 100 years ago. Poll taxes are illegal and unconstitutional. If the government issued the ID's for free, then this would not be an issue.

It's that cut and dry.

Have mixed feelings about this requirement, but to those saying that it is no big deal to get an ID, you are not thinking about house-bound elderly. I am responsible for 3 aging parents -- Mom, Dad and step-dad. They no longer drive, so driver's licenses have expired. Bank accounts were set up long ago with online capabilities managed by me, so ID for banking is not necessary. SS auto deposit, likewise, was set up decades ago. There really is no reason for ID for their everyday lives, although 2 out of 3 have the non-driver ID obtained when they were still more mobile. The mental faculties of these folks are fine and they vote via absentee ballot, so I'm not sure how required voter ID would impact them. But summary statements that it is "easy" to get to DMV for ID are not always correct. It would be incredibly difficult if I had to get them there at this point.

Everyone should have some type of ID. A drivers license would do, a NC ID should be required at the minimum. The state could provide an ID at no charge for those that have no Drivers License or NC ID card. Simply charge a replacement fee if the card is lost. NC would make its money back in no time.

The NC Board of Elections as already shown that the majority of those without a valid ID are elderly white women. Why is the NAACP so concearned about them? If you don't think voter fraud happens in NC, you probably think food stamp (EBT Card) fraud doesn't happen either.

Love the comparisons. However, visiting a Dr's office isn't a right guaranteed by the Constitution. Driving a vehicle isn't one either. Using a credit card? Nope, nothing in the Constitution about that one. And for about every other comparison you care to offer, nothing about those being a right in the Constitution either. It seems to me that for all those who will whip out their Constitution when it SUITS them to do so, yet argue against it when they don't like something it protects, that those folks aren't really interested in our Constitution at all (but we already knew THAT). They are more interested in pushing an agenda of their choosing down our throats. I can't wait to hear the rebuttals of this one.

This issue is not clearly divided among party line like many will claim. I am a democrat and I know several of my friends who are democrat feel the exact same way as I do on this issue. There should be an ID requirement to vote. I had to use my ID this morning pay for my Bojangles this morning. So for me to get some chicken I need and ID, but not to vote. Hummm something is very wrong with that picture.

yes you are, iamconfused. I looked it up, but I couldn't find "any type of transaction" in the Constitution. I DID, however, find "voting" rights in there. Still confused?

Honest people do not mind showing a photo id to vote, purchase guns, drive a car or store purchases. Need I say more......

Most of these biased organizations don't know what fair is. The deck has been stacked in their favor for the last 40 years, so why should we expect them to want to change it now. These are the same people who think it is wrong for a group of white people or white men to have a "white supporting organization" while they specifically promote and drive "black", "hispanic","gay", etc agendas without being subjected to being call bigots or biased. What's wrong with this picture people!? It's way past time for the conservatives (no matter what your color) to stand up and be counted. Actually, I fear it is a bit too late.

"There is no legitimate argument against requiring a voter to show ID. Enough said"

Except the Constitution.

I bet ACORN are the only ones against a photo ID. This way 10 people with 20 different IDs can on longer "stack the deck".

"...young voters also would be disproportionately affected by an ID law."

So most young voters dont have a drivers license? HHHHmmmmm....I doubt that.

Rather than exerting an effort to negate voter ID requirements, we should be divicing a strategy to see that all legally eligible voters have such a form of ID at no cost. I would be happy to put forth an effort to promote and assist those that require help with acquiring such an ID. This would put an end to any speculation regarding voter fraud.

I have to show my ID everywhere, doctor's office, hospital, ABC store, to cash a check, etc. What is so wrong with showing your ID if you have nothing to hide?

Second the elderly would have some form of photo ID to obtain their prescriptions or to show when they first file for Social Security benifits (sic).

You do realize that people can live LONG after they "first file for SS benefits, right? Many elderly have NO reason for an ID since someone else takes care of their fiscal situation for them.

NEWSFLASH: Acorn doesn't exist anymore.....it was in all the papers, perhaps you missed it.

The bottom line is that Voter ID along with Gerrymandering of Districts is all about acquiring and maintaining power. There is nothing else to add to that or take from it. When folks get tired of this nonsense they will stop it or change it.

We should allow the police to enter our homes and search whenever they feel like it.....after all, if you have nothing to hide, why would you be against it?

Just to clarify to those who only read what they wanted to read, there is NO mention of the photo ID having to be a current photo ID. With that said I see no reason why an expired driver's license would not work...

It is my right to vote in America, ID or no ID and you can't take that away no matter how many of you scream and shout about it. Banking, travel, government subsidies, Dr. visits, or anything else is not a American right so stop with the comparisons. I lose my wallet I shouldn't be allowed to vote, doesn't reflect what's in the U.S. constitution. So stop infringing on my rights.

You know we like to bicker with each other over all these news stories. But I hope we all realize our governing representatives DO NOT read Golo....send emails to them about the issues that conern you. Posting here does not accomplish anything except giving you the opportunity to vent. I have written mine...dont let the media help you forget how to express your opinion to those who really need to hear it.

This just shows how depserate the "left" is to maintain their false advantage obtained by unaccountable voting. Voter ID is needed, although we do not have a problem with fraud in this state. But the folks who run the 'left' side smear machine, knows that if we require voter ID they will never gain the advantage they have in the big slums where they can get thousands to vote straight tickets year after year. All the arguments agianst it are false. (A) rarely do 30% of the people even vote, voter ID is not going to supress that number. (B) ID's are free in NC (C) if you can get out and register, and make it to the poll, you can get an ID (or you make cast an absentee vote, then like a lot of military, your vote will never be counted... talk about supressing the vote.)

"First, if the minorities are drawing a paycheck or on federal assistance they have to have a photo I.D. to cash that check or show to the case worker to obtain federal assistance.."

who said anything about welfare or assistance????? and have you never heard about direct deposit?

" Second the elderly would have some form of photo ID to obtain their prescriptions or to show when they first file for Social Security benifits.."

lol yeah I had that ID 20 years ago.....

" Third all young students now are issued a student ID card by their school which has their photo on it.. So your therory on this being a polt to "suppress voters" doesn't hold water..."

as opposed to your "theory" that voter fraud exists?

and still so long as even one person has to spend money to get an ID its unconstitutional under the 24th.

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