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Sheriff had denied gun permit to Greenville shooting suspect

Posted June 24, 2013

— The Pitt County Sheriff's Office said Monday that it rejected a gun permit for a man suspected of wounding four people in a Friday shooting spree in Greenville.

Lakim Anthony Faust, 23, was charged Monday with four counts of attempted murder in the shootings in the parking lots of Kellum Law Firm and Walmart, both on Greenville Boulevard.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Christy Wallace said Faust's gun permit application was rejected in August.

Under existing law, anyone wishing to buy a handgun must get a permit from the local sheriff, who has the discretion of approving or rejecting it. No permit is required to purchase a shotgun or rifle.

State lawmakers are working on legislation that would eliminate the permit system. Sheriffs and Attorney General Roy Cooper oppose the proposed change.

Investigators say Faust was armed with a shotgun and a satchel full of ammunition when he allegedly shot one person outside the law firm and then crossed the street to the store, where he shot three more people in the parking lot.

Faust was then taken down in a gunfire exchange with officers outside the Walmart, police said.

Police waited until he was released from Vidant Medical Center to charge him.

The four shooting victims were identified Monday as Timothy Edwards, 64, Vernon Leggett, 69, and Haywood Whichard Jr., 50, all of Greenville, and Carroll Oakes, 70, of Grifton. Police didn't disclose which of the four was shot outside the law office.

Their conditions were unknown Monday, but police described their injuries as serious.

Investigators haven't found any links between Faust and the four victims. Evidence gathered during a search of Faust's home appears to show he had some plan for the attack and wanted to shoot a number of people.

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  • Glock Ranger Jun 25, 6:24 p.m.

    It has never been my intent to argue that point.

    What do we know? Not much besides what the media has given us, which is not much. Even if you go to the Greenville Daily Reflector Newspaper you don't get any more details.

    He was a troubled youth, a nice kid under most circumstances, but still, troubled. The gun permit was denied because he had a misdemeanor conviction for trespassing, resisting,obstructing by giving a false identity, within 10 years. He was charged with 1st degree murder at 14, but it ended in Juvenile Court. No details.

    I believe he is a frustrated kid, looking to make a point in a big way, with a, thankfully, flawed plan.

    BTW: I tested the theory of the 9mm versus 12GA. I will post the pictures shortly.

    Also, I am not questioning your ability to hit the target at 50 yards with a 9mm. I am simply showing that an average person is more likely to hit that target with a shotgun, than with a pistol. So, 1 cartridge vs. 1 shell, twice.

  • bowslinger70 Jun 25, 5:45 p.m.

    Junkmail--I'll take that bet !! One round of #4 buckshot from my shotgun @ 50 yds.will put more holes in your target than your 9mm holds !!

  • junkmail5 Jun 25, 5:02 p.m.

    Hmmmm. OVER 100 rounds of shotgun ammunition in a small container? I'm thinking something other than 12 gauge. Maybe .410? Again, probably not intending to kill, but to injure as many as possible.
    Glock Ranger

    eh, depends what they mean by small I guess... but 100 rounds of 12 gauge would fit in a small dry/tackle/tool box without any trouble... or just loose in a small book bag.

    If he was intended to injure, but not kill, a lot of people... well, that's weird first of all... second he did a very very poor job of it- a parking lot's a terrible place to try that.

    If he was intended to WOUND a lot of people using birdshot he'd have wanted to go someplace with a lot of people in close proximity.

    But anyway, for what ACTUALLY HAPPENED, the point remains he's a lot more likely to have done more damage/actually killed folks if he'd been able to get the pistol he originally wanted.

  • Glock Ranger Jun 25, 4:48 p.m.

    OK, @junkmail5. You win.

    Here area couple of quotes from the articles:

    "A man accused of seriously injuring four people in a shooting spree Friday morning intended to inflict mass casualties on innocent people, Greenville's police chief said Sunday."

    So, it doesn't appear that he was trying to kill someone. He intended to get attention, terrify, make a point, injure as many people as possible.

    ""He had over 100 rounds of shotgun ammunition that was recovered in a small container at the scene where he was shot by police," Greenville police Chief Hassan Aden said."

    Hmmmm. OVER 100 rounds of shotgun ammunition in a small container? I'm thinking something other than 12 gauge. Maybe .410? Again, probably not intending to kill, but to injure as many as possible.

  • junkmail5 Jun 25, 4:42 p.m.

    yes you can put a long mag in a compact but then that sort of makes it no longer a compact- jreb919

    The 17 round mag in a glock 19 makes it... still a compact, it just has a small pinky extension on the end.

    Ditto the 17 rounder in the PX4 compact (which is my main carry gun).

    the 17 rounder is the -standard- mag in the Ruger compact

    Anyway, point being, virtually ANY semi-auto will offer a LOT more shots before reload than a shotgun will...

    (Barring a really weird/expensive shotgun like a saiga)

  • jreb919 Jun 25, 4:34 p.m.

    Nope... every one I listed has a compact model with >10 rounds.

    Glock 19 is a compact- 15 rounds standard, with 17 19 and 33 round FACTORY mags optional.

    Beretta PX4 compact- 15 round standard, 17 and 20 round FACTORY optional.

    Ruger SR9C (c for compact)- 17 round FACTORY mag outside the couple restricted states.

    - yes you can put a long mag in a compact but then that sort of makes it no longer a compact.

    like I said originally - stock, and 15 was in my range (6-16). yes there are plenty of add'l mags that can be bought for a gun (as I noted), but you typically don't get them when you buy the gun.

  • junkmail5 Jun 25, 4:30 p.m.

    Glock ranger-

    A better (safer) challenge might be this though-

    We go to a shooting range.

    We'll shoot from say 50 yards.

    You get a shotgun with regular 00 buckshot.

    I get a pistol with 9mm bullets.

    we both get one full load (no reloading) at a man-shaped/sized target.

    Then we'll see who did better.

    (hint: it'll be me- you'll be lucky to have a handful of pellets even hit the thing at that distance- I'll have most of my rounds center of mass)

  • junkmail5 Jun 25, 4:27 p.m.

    It's the NRA's fault that the ATF doesn't prosecute people who willfully disobey the law and lie on the form? - Glock Ranger

    yes, actually.

    The NRA directly wrote a number of laws explicitly crippling the ATF from doing their job and got one of their paid congressmen to attach it to other bills.

    All of em passed.

    This is very well documented.

    I dare say that you would not be willing to stand at 100 yards and allow me to fire a magnum load of 12 gauge 00buck at you on the off chance that none of those .32 caliber pellets will reach you, much less hit you.
    Glock Ranger

    I dare say anyone who knows guns would be a lot more willing to let you do that than to fire nearly any centerfire weapon at em instead.

    because you'd be vastly more likely to miss at 100 yards with the shotgun against a person-shaped target.

  • junkmail5 Jun 25, 4:24 p.m.

    all those models in your last post have mags in the lower, more common, range. 9mm handguns will typically have higher cap mgs but on the whole when you look at all caliber ranges most manufacturers have smaller cap mags due to simple physics of the sheer size of the round.
    jreb919

    But they also have mags in the higher range.

    in fact, ALL of them are ALL 15 or higher except for the 10-round California-required ones.

    If not for the state laws restricting capacity the 10 rounders wouldn't exist for virtually any of em.

    virtually all compacts and sub compacts virtually never more than 10 rnds.- jreb919

    Nope... every one I listed has a compact model with >10 rounds.

    Glock 19 is a compact- 15 rounds standard, with 17 19 and 33 round FACTORY mags optional.

    Beretta PX4 compact- 15 round standard, 17 and 20 round FACTORY optional.

    Ruger SR9C (c for compact)- 17 round FACTORY mag outside the couple restricted states.

    etc...

    the 1911 is a 100+ year old gun, modern guns = large cap.

  • jreb919 Jun 25, 4:24 p.m.

    Sticking with 9mm, since that's the original round NCSU JIM compared to a shotgun yesterday-junkmail

    didn't see that - but will agree when sticking with 9mm.

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