McCrory may need some counseling on psychologist numbers

Posted September 26, 2014

Gov. Pat McCrory and Commerce Secretary Sharon Decker launch a workforce development effort on Sept. 25, 2014.

— Gov. Pat McCrory has never been shy about taking pot shots at journalists – we're tough, we can take it – but he seems to have overshot his rhetorical point during remarks in the Triad on Thursday.

The Triad Business Journal reported on McCrory's stop at Greensboro-based Epes Transport Thursday, where he was talking up his administration's tour of businesses across the state. He was highlighting a shortage of workers in technical fields such as information technology and those who work on big trucks.

"We've frankly got enough psychologists and sociologists and political science majors and journalists. With all due respect to journalism, we've got enough. We have way too many," McCrory reportedly told the audience. According to the report, his comments were met with a chuckle.

The governor's office on Friday morning confirmed the quote was accurate but said it would be unfair to take it out of context. For more of that context on his listening tour, check out stories by the Associated Press and WRAL News' own report.

We'll leave aside the irony of calling a news conference to promote your ongoing government program and then saying there are too many people around to cover it.

Let's look instead at McCrory's assertion that there are "enough psychologists."

Consider this report from the Wall Street Journal: "Last year, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, almost 91 million adults lived in areas ... where shortages of mental-health professionals made obtaining treatment difficult. A departmental report to Congress earlier this year said 55 percent of the nation's 3,100 counties have no practicing psychiatrists, psychologists or social workers, a combination of budget cuts and doctors leaving the profession."

That HHS report outlined the importance of mental health care this way: "Though the co-occurrence of behavioral and other medical conditions is common, individuals with serious behavioral health conditions who lack financial resources are often unable to access quality care, either for their behavioral health conditions or for other health problems. Good behavioral health is associated with better physical health outcomes, improved educational attainment, increased economic participation, and meaningful social relationships."

McCrory's own administration has also looked at the number of behavioral health workers and psychologists and said there is a problem. 

"NC has a shortage of mental health and substance abuse professionals," McCrory's Department of Health and Human Services reported to the General Assembly in 2013. The report mainly focused on public-sector health care available but had this to say about psychologists generally: "However, the density of psychologists per 100,000 population is lower in NC than the national average." The report goes on to call for producing more psychologists to keep up with demand and specifically says, "The shortage of licensed professionals in rural areas of NC is even more acute than in urban areas across the State."

There's more from the North Carolina Medical Journal on this, and a prominent political figure also has raised the profile of this problem.

“There are a lot of other things that get publicity, but the thing that keeps me awake at night is substance abuse and mental health,” McCrory said last year in relation to a shortage of mental health professionals.

Which sounds like a concern that a journalist might cover.

UPDATE: About seven hours after this story first posted, McCrory Spokesman Josh Ellis called to say that the governor didn't have the information about psychologists when he made his remarks. 

"Those numbers are right. We do need more psychologist," he said.

Ellis added that McCrory was not advocating for fewer journalists so much as he thought the economy demanded fewer journalism majors. 

"Really what he talked about in terms of education, not just for K through 12 but for the community college and university systems, is education that aligns with the growing needs of the economy," Ellis said. 


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  • beef Sep 30, 2014

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    Your president AND your governor agree: We need more STEM majors and fewer humanities majors. As far as loans are concerned, unemployment rates and salary levels are a good predictor of who pays their loans back and who does not:

  • Sandra Elizabeth Sep 30, 2014
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    Speaking of JOURNALISTS and as long as people think this is "TOP NEWS"

    A Police Officer was SHOT in FERGUSON this week.

    Obviously this isn't news because it can't be a political platform.

  • ospreysilver Sep 30, 2014

    CNN published the earnings of university graduates its disturbing that the bulk of universities in this state are graduating kids to get jobs that only pay in the low 30's. Small colleges are a total waste of money unless you transfer to a larger college at some point.

  • Robyn Page Sep 30, 2014
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    That describes most voters nowadays as well.

  • Russell Chapman Sep 29, 2014
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    Where are your facts that the percentage of students struggling to pay loans have liberal arts degrees vs non liberal art degrees? The real point here is that this governor, whom I voted for, is out of touch and quite frankly, obtuse.

  • Carol Smith Sep 29, 2014
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    McCrory is unqualified to be governor?

  • miseem Sep 29, 2014

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    Hmmm. So what you are saying is that engineering students are smarter than students with other majors, right?

  • USMC Vet Sep 28, 2014

    I voted for the guy, but IMO - he's oblivious to many of this state's problems and shortcomings (or else he just doesn't care about them), maybe he's the one that needs psychiatric help and should be blessed he lives in a county that has those professionals; many NC residents don't.

  • cassiodorus2 Sep 26, 2014

    It is reassuring to find our governor advocating a response to ... no, an "aligning" of the growing needs of the economy, whatever they are, psychologists, firemen, astronauts, plumbers ... give him a chance and he'll get it right. He may even remember what he said last year.

  • beef Sep 26, 2014

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    The engineers do have to take a few psychology and literature classes and the like. We actually had a special name for them. We called them "Easy A"s. Thankfully, taking them does not interfere with our ability to earn high salaries.