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McCrory: Emergency benefits will end in July

Published: 2013-02-01 15:47:00
Updated: 2013-02-01 18:49:39

Gov. Pat McCrory says he will sign an unemployment overhaul that will cut off emergency benefits for some 80,000 jobless North Carolinians.

"I will not support the extension of unemployment beyond July of this year," McCrory told a meeting of the Tobacco Growers Association of North Carolina. "I think we need to now draw the line." 

The proposal would change North Carolina's unemployment system in order to pay down a debt of $2.5 billion, racked up during the recession when state unemployment taxes didn't keep up with jobless claims. It would raise taxes slightly on employers, while making steep cuts to the amount, duration and access to benefits for laid-off workers.

If the bill takes effect July 1 as written, it will trigger a provision in the "fiscal cliff" bill that governs federal emergency extended unemployment benefits.

Because North Carolina's quarterly unemployment rate is still higher than 9 percent, long-term unemployed workers here are eligible for the federally-funded benefits.

At present, about 81,000 people are receiving those benefits, which bring about $100 million into the state's economy every month.

But if lawmakers cut the state's unemployment benefits, jobless workers here will lose their eligibility for federal assistance. Their checks will stop when the state overhaul takes effect.

Despite that impact, House and Senate leaders say they won't delay the overhaul. McCrory said he won't delay it, either.

"I refuse to let us continue to live off of a credit card. We're going to pay off the credit card. We're going to change the rules and policies," he said.

"The current status quo of how we've done unemployment has not put more people on the payroll of private-sector jobs. It's put more people on the government payrolls of unemployment," he said. "We can no longer afford to do that in North Carolina. We are changing our policy now, and that will be one of the first bills I sign." 

House Speaker Thom Tillis says he expects the overhaul bill will win final House approval Tuesday. It then goes to the Senate, where President Pro Tem Phil Berger says it has strong support. It could be on the governor's desk by next weekend.

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Hey all you followers of classical economic theory..You know the economic theory (wages and prices rise and fall based upon demand or lack thereof until equilibrium is reached)taught by John Maynard Keynes is only applicable to a CLOSED SYSTEM. You cannot use it to make changes if you OPEN THE SYSTEM by off shoring of jobs (call centers, manufacturing) and allowing extra inputs (illegal immigrants) into the equation. I really don't think you can even use it a a jumping off point!!! .. .. ..so.. .. ..this decision by the governor is not based upon sound economic theory, but human emotion such as greed!!!

"Iak, I sincerely appreciate your compassion and understanding. Good to know that some get it. "

+1

"There are many living within communities that have restrictive covenants forbidding gardens, and drying laundry out of doors on a line, etc. etc. Heck, some of them won't even allow a resident to fly a US flag, and you think they can grow a garden. Iak Hsehpen"

Then Move. Thats the point. You have to change your entire way of looking at things. Rent instead of own. Find ways to create income that you haven't done in the past. Governments responsibility is not to guarantee you have a job or for that matter even a home. Americans have a very scewed perception of what government was designed to do for us.

"WAY TO GO ABOUT TIME!!! For all those people sucking the system down. Come on if you can draw unemployement for half of a year and then your going to say you can find a job. Guess what thats call laziness. There are jobs out there yeah it might not be what you want to do or not what you want to make but a job is a job people get one." adamnb85

Please enlighten those of us looking where to find these jobs that one can just go out and get. By the way, I was doing one of those jobs that "you might not want to do" before I got laid off from it. Please tell me how to make someone hire me, I'm all ears.

For all those making negative comments about the unemployed, I'd like to issue you a challenge:

Just for a month, pretend you don't have a job. Spend time searching the various avenues to apply for at least five (5) jobs weekly WITHIN YOUR FIELD like the unemployment office requires.

You can't count applications made to any job outside the field you now work in.

After a month, that would be March 1st, come back and tell us how many you sent out and how many responses you got with job offers.

I challenge you do to this.

Put your money where your mouth is!!!

If you aren't willing to accept this challenge whole-heartedly, you have no right to make a negative comment about the unemployed, because you're too lazy to even try what they face every day.

McCrory wouldn't have to end it if Bev had never allowed it.

This is BS! There are actually people who are on UI benefits and apply for dozens of jobs every day and still can't get a job because the companies are not hiring!! Why cut benefits that people need to survive on?? Raise the taxes on the employers who refuse to hire these people!!

how about this people. STOP DEPENDING ON THE GOVERNMENT.

"States don't pay back extensions."

I could be wrong on that, am not sure, but I don't believe they do because it's a Federal decision the states can take or leave.

Crouch - "US companies sat on billions during the recession and would not hire. The unemployment rate is more of factor of how people are hired versus people not looking for work."

AMEN!!!

And just because someone is unemployed doesn't mean they're lazy and aren't trying.

kornfan2448 - "Iak, I sincerely appreciate your compassion and understanding. Good to know that some get it."

I appreciate it.

I faced this from 10/2007 to 6/2008 which is when I retired. During that time (I have the paperwork to prove it), I sent out over 1000 applications and resumes, having 47 years in Office Management to back up my experience and qualifications, although I didn't state that number on the applications.

I didn't get one single nibble.

I'm a retired ordained minister who works part-time in a local grocery store who sees people struggle to buy milk for their children. Many of these people come in now in suit pants, shirts and ties, because they've been searching for work. I see the same people this way over and over again, along with the elderly and military Veterans proudly sporting caps showing their military branch on them counting coins to buy bread and balogna, and little more.

It breaks my heart when someone says these people are lazy and aren't trying.

WAY TO GO ABOUT TIME!!! For all those people sucking the system down. Come on if you can draw unemployement for half of a year and then your going to say you can find a job. Guess what thats call laziness. There are jobs out there yeah it might not be what you want to do or not what you want to make but a job is a job people get one.

Nancy - "26 weeks is what the plan called for, not 99 weeks endlessly. Is it any wonder there is no money at all?"

From all I've studied, extensions are fully funded by the Federal government, not the State government.

The 99 weeks was a FEDERAL extension, and the FEDS paid for that extension over what the State would normally cover.

The FEDS know there are NO JOBS available. That's why they offered these extensions.

When McCrory signs that bill, he'll not only be lessening the amount of money a person can receive benefits and shortening the length of time they'll be able to receive them, he'll also be saying "no" to the extension money the Feds pay for.

And yes, before someone says that - out of taxpayer dollars.

States don't pay back extensions.

What NC is having to pay back is the $2.5B Bev borrowed to cover the ESC accounting error.

Remember when she went to the White House to ask Obama for it?

So Art Pope has decided to remove 81,000 consumers from the economy. Hope all you retailers who have been sellin to those consumers have got replacement customers lined up!! (can you smell a recession a comin'..or is that a depressed economy I smell comin round the bend?!?!)

Nancy - "No, $2.5 billion we owe the feds is from Bev signing up for federal extensions of unemployment, which, by the way is on it's 10th consecutive extension."

You're wrong!

That $2.5B was because of the error at the ESC.

crouch - "...since business people just love to hire people based on low tax tax rates."

That didn't work this time. :)

They thought it would, but it didn't. Businesses just dug in their heels, enjoyed the low tax rates, and hired few to no one.

It is truly amazing to see those on here ranting about the ousting of McCrory and send him packing, I want my vote back etc. Where were you people when our chosen Dem leaders were BREAKING THE LAW. Perdue, Easley, Meg Scot Phillips, Edwards. And you kept electing them. Get a clue. What you have had in the past hasn't worked. Try something else. Use your slogan from Barrack..............FORWARD

Just about the time they'll probably lay off a large number in the education field. Timing seems about right. says rosannedisney

You did know that under the Republican Legislature in the last two years, the number of teachers has been raised over 3,000?

"Thank God we do not have a Democratic governor for this would get vetoed immediately. Its about time we cut the cord to the unproductiveand forced them to work." I like that mind set. It's uneducated and comical. Force people to work? Try forcing companies to hire. US companies sat on billions during the recession and would not hire. The unemployment rate is more of factor of how people are hired versus people not looking for work. But the uneducated mind is always thinking if a person is not working, it has nothing to do with the application process and the profit making process. How many companies do layoffs just because they are going out of business? Very few.

Nancy - "Welfare to work brought out the same cries of "babies will starve" behavior and response. Amazingly, people decided they COULD get off welfare after all."

Do you know this firsthand?

Cause they didn't.

Welfare to work ended when the White House realized the GREAT slump in the job market meant even currently educated qualified people couldn't find a job, let alone those without.

Then those people went on straight welfare, not having to work at all to get the benefits.

That's what we have today.

Iak, I sincerely appreciate your compassion and understanding. Good to know that some get it.

"grow a garden"? That will fix everything! "cry babies"?

There are many living within communities that have restrictive covenants forbidding gardens, and drying laundry out of doors on a line, etc. etc.

Heck, some of them won't even allow a resident to fly a US flag, and you think they can grow a garden.

Get a grip!!!

lwe - "The governor is only trying to get back to living within our means."

What exactly are the "means" of someone searching for a job who now will have no money coming in at all?

I'm one of the "fiscal conservatives" and this is just ridiculous. Insurance premiums were paid by working people. You can't get on unemployment by just not having a job.

When I see supposed republicans acting this way, I completely understand why the left calls us a bunch of backwoods fools that can't think for themselves.

clearwaterman, you are further from the truth than your wildest imaginations might allow you. Manufacturing is gone because it can be done significantly cheaper in Asia and the Western world changed its regulations for imports. In fact, so cheap that the manufacturing cost of a product becomes one of the smallest line items. You can get away with any federal agency we have and eliminate any tax we have, you still will not be able to compete with Asian manufacturing.

Iak Hsehpan:"You assume.. you look totally out of touch with the reality some face. Not all are over-extended fools you think they are."

I didn't say "over-extended", I'm pointing out that most people don't save as much as possible when times are good.

The last half-century people have expected that they would work 40 years and retire with benefits, so they didn't plan ahead if that didn't happen.

I know exactly the reality some people are facing, and the reason I'm not facing it is because I saw the possibility long before I got into the position they now find themselves in.

I could very easily have been in their same shoes, but I've made some hard life choices over many decades and have done without a lot of the things that have contributed to their new reality.

Oh.. I'm very sympathetic.. I feel their pain. I know their pain. I've lived it for most of my life. And I'm stronger for it. Excuse me while I go outside and start a fire to cook rice without adding to my utility bill.

"But we have gotten selfish and spoiled and can no longer get along and we are where we are so maybe we need to rethink the old days and ways of survival." Heavenly, the corporations have taken as they have wanted an planned. Who grows corn and raises chickens now? The corporations do. Stop believing all this corporations are people stuff. They are the en-slavers of the masses by seducing the masses to buy more of what they want versus looking at their true needs. Every dollar you make, they want. And every dollar they take from you, they want a tax break for getting it from you.

Danny22 - "I had no idea people were getting so much money to "not work."

Searching for work IN THIS JOBLESS MARKET IS work.

Try it.

Even if you have a job, go through the many sources to seek work, fill out applications, send resumes, do it all. Then let us know how many responses you got.

k

"Corporate welfare is where the debt is coming from along with tax cuts for the welfare rich... not the unemployed or welfare mom getting food stamps. Some can not see the forest for the trees."

Who held the reins in NC for the last several decades?

I don't understand why some of you think that someone that is now unemployed doesn't want to work. Maybe you guys are slow. A working person is unlikely to not want to survive so, that means they want to work. Oh well I'm actively looking so if I don't have anything by July I will be living in the governor's mansion. That's government assistance too.

TV_D_Seat - "I don't have that issue to deal with because I know children are expensive so I specifically made a conscience decision not to have them until I'm well established and don't need a job to raise them."

Then I guess you don't know that those who got laid off first were middle and upper management people, people who thought they WERE "well established".

And many of them are STILL looking for jobs in middle age, and are facing age discrimination when companies hire kids right out of college they can get for peanuts instead of paying a little more for someone with the same (or more) degrees who is already full trained and has experience.

That's one reason why customer service in the US has declined, these kids straight from college have little clue how to treat a customer.

I was unemployed in this great state for 30 months in this recession. I exhausted extended federal benefits. I am employed now thank goodness. Please Governor, don't make other people suffer who lost their jobs through no fault of their own after July 1 of this year.

"I'm no O fan, but Barry wasn't the one who made or oversaw the person who made the $2.5B accounting error at the NC ESC that caused this mess."

No, $2.5 billion we owe the feds is from Bev signing up for federal extensions of unemployment, which, by the way is on it's 10th consecutive extension.

26 weeks is what the plan called for, not 99 weeks endlessly. Is it any wonder there is no money at all?

Never mind that the audit of the ESC in NC uncovered total failure of that agency along with DHHS, DOT etc. And Bev never fired a one, not one. Nobody was held accountable.

Well, it's time for serious control and it won't be easy but it is the responsibility of someone else to clean up the mess that has accumulated.

Heavenly - "Food, shelter and clothing is all it takes to survive. grow a garden, multi family dwellings with more than one family assisting in work finance and others for child care..."

Where do you think the unemployed are turning??? Unemployment only pays 40% of what one earned when they worked. They have no alternative but to depend on others, and on one another.

Now these people will turn to welfare and food stamps when their unemployment runs out, and once again, the TAXPAYER will foot the bill instead of the COMPANY that laid them off.

"The current status quo of how we've done unemployment has not put more people on the payroll of private-sector jobs. It's put more people on the government payrolls of unemployment," he said. "We can no longer afford to do that in North Carolina. We are changing our policy now, and that will be one of the first bills I sign." Actually, the lower federal tax rates is what was touted as putting more people onto payrolls. Be truthful and tell us how that has worked the past 11 years, Governor? Even with the recession, lower tax rates should have minimized the recessions effects since business people just love to hire people based on low tax tax rates. Let's see you walk into the grown up world and pass a law that would prohibit businesses with more than 1,000 employees from laying off people unless the business has a high risk of folding. That would keep people employed more so than playing with taxes.

I'm all for it. I will say though that there are people that are probably trying to get jobs and it would be nice to see who has been filling out applications to maybe extend their benefits since they're trying but alot of people are starting to act like welfare recipients and just sit around and wait for that check. NC needs to get rid of its debt.

Welfare to work brought out the same cries of "babies will starve" behavior and response. Amazingly, people decided they COULD get off welfare after all.

clearwaterman - "Do away with the EPA and OSHA and there will be too many jobs over night."

And then those people will be on unemployment too.

Think people, ya gotta think things through before commenting.

There was a time when UE benefits were for only 6 months. Benefits have been extended by previous administrations. It's silly to blame republicans for anything in this state up to now. I agree with the concept that you have to stop the bleeding. McCrory referred to it as paying off the credit card. It's gonna hurt for a while but it will be ok. It took our family 3 years and an adjusted way of living in order to get to a place where we were not going into further debt every day. To get rid of debt/deficit you have to stop spending first. If this doesn't work I guarantee something else will be tried by "those republicans". it's better than spending more and putting it off as Perdue, Squeezly, Meg Scott Phillips and her posse have done. Dems in NC have given us criminals not leaders.

Lady Marksman - "End unemployment benefits and get anyone who has been receiving welfare/food stamps/EBT for more than 24 months needs to be cut off!!

Social Services are there to help people get from point A to point B - help them until they are able to do for themselves. It is NOT intenced to support and pay people's living expenses for years and years!!!"

Including the elderly and disabled? Including disabled military Veterans who lost limbs or sanity in battle?

Be careful now!!!

It isn't just lazy baby-birthing people on those programs. Those programs also include the deaf and blind and limbless, etc.

Best thing that anybody who doesn't like this bill can do is make Pat unemployed in 4 years. He has to put up or start packing.

"grow a garden"? That will fix everything! "cry babies"?

Never thought anyone could ever be this uncompassionate to others. Karma is going to bite you on this one.

we republicans are in charge. time for some people to start looking for jobs.

After working full time for over 30 yrs, I was laid off 8 months ago. Have put in over 400 applications with a handfull of interviews. I am educated and in good shape. There are not many jobs out there. I even apply for warehouse work, anything! If you had said that to my face, your lights would have been out in seconds. How long have you worked in your life?

digitalsorceryinc - "No form of our Goverment is trying to bring jobs back to America. The backbone of America has always been manufacturing. The corporations make billions in profits off Chinese slave labor and pay our congress to look the other way. I guess ill be going to work at wall-mart. Its the only place left hiring. "DISGUSTED"

Walmart won't hire the over-qualified. None of the other business that start employees off at minimum or near-minimum wage will either because interviewing, hiring and training people costs money.

When I was in Walmart management, that cost $2,100 per person to get a person fully trained in all company processes and procedures, and on the floor, and that was many years ago.

That's money smart business won't throw away on an over-qualified employee sure to leave the first time they're offered a job and earnings they're truly worth.

Perhaps all of the people who will lose their benefits can go to Raleigh and have a meal with this GOV....I think this would actually be a great idea....as he surely can afford to feed these people. Does he really think people like being on unemployment? Perhaps he should try to live off of the funds for a while and then decide...

Thank God we do not have a Democratic governor for this would get vetoed immediately. Its about time we cut the cord to the unproductiveand forced them to work.

Trying to put myself in the guv's shoes...just wondering if he has ever walked a mile in the shoes of those about to be cut loose from the lifeboat. Nobody wants to support freeloaders. Let's just hope the ones who he thinkgs should get kicked to the curb are only freeloaders, and not victims of circumstances over which they have no control.

Its remarkable how the GOP will rant the "self reliance" and "pull yourself up by your boot straps" to the individual, but find every excuse not to impose the same logic on business. Corporate welfare is where the debt is coming from along with tax cuts for the welfare rich... not the unemployed or welfare mom getting food stamps. Some can not see the forest for the trees.

The governor is only trying to get back to living within our means. You just can't keep on living on credit and expect the money to be there. I am sure that he and his staff will be looking into things that would bring jobs back to North Carolina.

highvolt1 - "Stop paying them to sit on their behinds. There are jobs out there if they want to work"

Another clueless individual making a totally idiotic comment.

If you haven't searched for a job IN THIS JOB MARKET, you have no clue.

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