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McCrory: Emergency benefits will end in July

Published: 2013-02-01 15:47:00
Updated: 2013-02-01 18:49:39

Gov. Pat McCrory says he will sign an unemployment overhaul that will cut off emergency benefits for some 80,000 jobless North Carolinians.

"I will not support the extension of unemployment beyond July of this year," McCrory told a meeting of the Tobacco Growers Association of North Carolina. "I think we need to now draw the line." 

The proposal would change North Carolina's unemployment system in order to pay down a debt of $2.5 billion, racked up during the recession when state unemployment taxes didn't keep up with jobless claims. It would raise taxes slightly on employers, while making steep cuts to the amount, duration and access to benefits for laid-off workers.

If the bill takes effect July 1 as written, it will trigger a provision in the "fiscal cliff" bill that governs federal emergency extended unemployment benefits.

Because North Carolina's quarterly unemployment rate is still higher than 9 percent, long-term unemployed workers here are eligible for the federally-funded benefits.

At present, about 81,000 people are receiving those benefits, which bring about $100 million into the state's economy every month.

But if lawmakers cut the state's unemployment benefits, jobless workers here will lose their eligibility for federal assistance. Their checks will stop when the state overhaul takes effect.

Despite that impact, House and Senate leaders say they won't delay the overhaul. McCrory said he won't delay it, either.

"I refuse to let us continue to live off of a credit card. We're going to pay off the credit card. We're going to change the rules and policies," he said.

"The current status quo of how we've done unemployment has not put more people on the payroll of private-sector jobs. It's put more people on the government payrolls of unemployment," he said. "We can no longer afford to do that in North Carolina. We are changing our policy now, and that will be one of the first bills I sign." 

House Speaker Thom Tillis says he expects the overhaul bill will win final House approval Tuesday. It then goes to the Senate, where President Pro Tem Phil Berger says it has strong support. It could be on the governor's desk by next weekend.

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if the McCroy wants to cut off unemployment and reduce it benefits, then he should stop companies from coming into NC taking huge tax incentives that fail to do the hiring it promised in order to get those concessions.

The Republicans would rather see the state's economy go in the tank than to ask the fat cats pay one more penny of taxes. The government cannot starve us out of the recession, they've got to spend us out. It's not that anyone is going to starve, it's that they're not going to have money to spend on anything more than the bare essentials

If you thought things were bad before strap on your seat belt its going to be one heck of a ride for all of us. If its not nailed down its going to be gone. Home invasions will increase. This state will become crime laden like you are not going to believe and drugs will not be the reason. Its stunning that in one hand you give raises to folks who have an income then in the same hand take away the last hope and the ability to live from so many so the wealthy came make more. These people have to go somewhere is it the intention of our state to force these people out of existence or out of our state our to add more jails. I hope everyone that gets affected by these folks camps out at his home begging for food and at his work and follows him and his cronies like a bad smell. He and the rest of the republican party need to wake up and realize they are the ones who made this mess to start with. God has a place for people obsessed with gluttony and greed .

Alex25 - "Democrats LOVE some Govt Dependency. Gets 'em Votes..."

That's going to be a moot point pretty darn quick if one party or the other doesn't do something towards creating new jobs in this country.

As it is now, someone with GREAT MARKETABLE skills and a HANDFUL of degrees can apply hundreds to thousands of times, and never get a single solitary response - because between the years of 2006/8, SEVENTEEN MILLION JOBS DISAPPEARED in this country. To date, THREE MILLION have been recouped. That leaves FOURTEEN MILLION JOBS GONE - TOTALLY GONE for no one looking for a job to even apply to.

Remember the days when unemployment was at 26 weeks and you had to PROVE you were job hunting? Must have been pre welfare state mentality!

13 weeks? That's an unrealistic timeframe for most people to get a professional job. It's not unusual for the interview process to take 2-3 months, so it's likely that many of them will still be unemployed after 13 weeks. Chopping these benefits drives people who were making nearly 6 figures below the poverty line. There are plenty of unemployed people in this area who have advanced degrees and certifications. They are aggressively seeking jobs because the current maximum provides 1/3 (or less) of what they made when employed. The new maximum will mean they are suddenly living on 20% of their salary. The possibility of paying for housing and insurance is slim, which will turn taxpayers into people dependent on other government services. And unlike the federal UE payments, these will likely be funded by the state. This move won't magically create jobs, just more people dependent on government services as they seek employment.

Gee iron fist, any ideas on why there are no jobs???

TV_D - "Yes, the same basic math skills that were in effect that people ignored when getting in over their head when times were good. The same math skills that people ignored when spending money they didn't NEED to do instead of saving. Or even having children they couldn't afford. Or better: car/house/clothing/vacations/cable TV package/cell phone/food/restaurants/movies ect ect."

You assume much, and it makes you look totally out of touch with the reality some of these people face.

Not all are the over-extended fools you think they are.

"Sorry about your cognitive dissonance, but we're discussing McCrony here. We're quite happy with our White House choice, thank you." Sumo Vita

Well that sure explains your posts! Carry on and let me know if you would like cheese with your wine (whine).

Sumo Vita - "We're quite happy with our White House choice, thank you."

Well, I'm not, but I didn't like the other guy either. LOL

caryzoo: "I have been there and tried to find even a minimum wage job. They would not hire me because of my advanced degrees and experience."

So.. when you were making 60K plus as an Engineer, did you live like someone making 20K and save a lot of money in case times got bad?

No? Lived the 60K good life? If so, don't come crying.

Anyone who worked for years as an advanced Engineer has made enough money to get by for a long while with no job. If you didn't prepare for that, I'm sorry for you, but it's your own fault. Take some responsibility for making poor economic choices if you did. Learn from your mistakes, make corrections, and next Engineering job save as very much money as humanly possible.

ProzacDispenser - "time for some people to start looking for jobs."

Time for you to wake up.

There are (I'll say it once again), FOURTEEN MILLION JOBS LESS IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW THAN THERE WAS IN 2006.

Where are those FOURTEEN MILLION PEOPLE going to turn for a job?

And don't say minimum wage jobs. That's already been discussed here ad nauseam, so you might want to review the previous comments before trying that old excuse again.

Finally a move in the right direction. Stop paying them to sit on their behinds. There are jobs out there if they want to work

"Billions of people around the world are happy to have a bowl of rice to eat. When was the last, or first, time you had rice for a meal?"

We eat rice 2-3 times a week. We love it.

We eat oatmeal and grits about as often, for the same reason.

How many times do YOU eat those things?

This shows how callous and uncaring this Republican Governor and this Republican legislature intends to be. And this is just the beginning of their antics. NC is officially a Tea Party State.

This is going to be a disaster!No form of our Goverment is trying to bring jobs back to America. The backbone of America has always been manufacturing. The corporations make billions in profits off Chinese slave labor and pay our congress to look the other way. I guess ill be going to work at wall-mart. Its the only place left hiring. "DISGUSTED"

The key is JOB RECOVERY.

1. Heavily penalize US-based companies that have jobs overseas.

2. Hire more INS investigators to ferret out illegal aliens (many of whom are also on government handout programs, welfare/foodstamps/WIC/Medicaid) and deport them, heavily fining those who hired them.

THAT will be a start to lower the unemployment rate and costs, will get people back to work paying taxes, and will build government coffers back up.

harmstrong4 - "You whinners are blaming the wrong person.....the person to blame is Barry and you voted for him and now you reap what was sown."

I'm no O fan, but Barry wasn't the one who made or oversaw the person who made the $2.5B accounting error at the NC ESC that caused this mess.

razor2 - "If you thought things were bad before strap on your seat belt its going to be one heck of a ride for all of us. If its not nailed down its going to be gone. Home invasions will increase. This state will become crime laden like you are not going to believe and drugs will not be the reason."

YEP!!!

You're 100% right!!!

As it is now, someone with GREAT MARKETABLE skills and a HANDFUL of degrees can apply hundreds to thousands of times, and never get a single solitary response - because between the years of 2006/8, SEVENTEEN MILLION JOBS DISAPPEARED in this country. To date, THREE MILLION have been recouped. That leaves FOURTEEN MILLION JOBS GONE - TOTALLY GONE for no one looking for a job to even apply to.

Agreed

yankee1 - "Remember the days when unemployment was at 26 weeks and you had to PROVE you were job hunting?"

Your comment shows you haven't been unemployed for a while, certainly not during this JOBLESS market. One still has to PROVE they're job hunting pal, just like in the old days.

I KNOW!!!

I DID IT before I reached retirement age.

End unemployment benefits and get anyone who has been receiving welfare/food stamps/EBT for more than 24 months needs to be cut off!!

Social Services are there to help people get from point A to point B - help them until they are able to do for themselves. It is NOT intenced to support and pay people's living expenses for years and years!!!

The working people of this country can no longer support the non-working people! It's time to take care of yourselves!

I have never seen such cry babies as what I see on this blog today. People, stop whining over this and start planning. This was an event long overdue and we all enjoyed the spoils of the feds but now it is time to stop the spend and waste and get back to basics. Food, shelter and clothing is all it takes to survive. grow a garden, multi family dwellings with more than one family assisting in work finance and others for child care... I do believe this was done by extended families many years ago and worked out just fine. But we have gotten selfish and spoiled and can no longer get along and we are where we are so maybe we need to rethink the old days and ways of survival.

Do away with the EPA and OSHA and there will be too many jobs over night. These organizations are the sole reason why companies have left the US and took the manufacturing facilities and jobs some place else. Like it or not this is the TRUTH!

I wish WRAL would do an article on why McCrory gave his staff a raise. Please report his own words on his actions of this, we all want to know why they deserved a raise without working one day.

yankee1 - "...any ideas on why there are no jobs???"

A research of news stories back to 2005/6 shows employers got scared when the markets became volatile, and began liquidating jobs at great rates.

Between 2006/8, SEVENTEEN MILLION JOBS WERE LIQUIDATED. To date, THREE MILLION HAVE BEEN RECOUPED, leaving FOURTEEN MILLION JOBS STILL COMPLETELY GONE FROM THE JOB MARKET.

The company I worked for laid off 1/3 of their workforce in Cary alone, and that was just one small office of an international company.

Do you understand now?

You should have known this yourself if you've read even one newspaper, news story online or seen one newscast on tv about unemployment in the past 7 years.

happymom: "We didn't live extravangly before I lost my job. Yes, we had cable and cell phones, but you can't just cut those off without ruining your credit because they are contracts involved..Paid off car mortgage kids..We immediately went into Austerity Mode"

The point being that you had them when you were working instead of saving the money.

I'm 53 and have NEVER had a car payment, I buy used and inexpensive and pay cash. I have NEVER had kids because I KNEW I couldn't afford them. Nor have I had a mortgage because I KNEW I couldn't afford one if I lost my job.

Going into austerity mode AFTER losing a job is what caused the problem. People need to live in it ALL of the time. I'm sorry about you child's struggle, that's one area I can understand that can't be avoided. But like I said, I don't have that issue to deal with because I know children are expensive so I specifically made a conscience decision not to have them until I'm well established and don't need a job to raise them.

TV_D_Seat -

Time for you to hit the road. You are totally clueless, and what's more, you're insulting to those who have worked hard, lost their jobs through no fault of their own, and have had to struggle.

I hope you enjoy the karma headed your way. The universe knows it's the only way you'll learn what they faced.

I had no idea people were getting so much money to "not work."

highvolt1 - "Stop paying them to sit on their behinds. There are jobs out there if they want to work"

Another clueless individual making a totally idiotic comment.

If you haven't searched for a job IN THIS JOB MARKET, you have no clue.

The governor is only trying to get back to living within our means. You just can't keep on living on credit and expect the money to be there. I am sure that he and his staff will be looking into things that would bring jobs back to North Carolina.

Its remarkable how the GOP will rant the "self reliance" and "pull yourself up by your boot straps" to the individual, but find every excuse not to impose the same logic on business. Corporate welfare is where the debt is coming from along with tax cuts for the welfare rich... not the unemployed or welfare mom getting food stamps. Some can not see the forest for the trees.

Trying to put myself in the guv's shoes...just wondering if he has ever walked a mile in the shoes of those about to be cut loose from the lifeboat. Nobody wants to support freeloaders. Let's just hope the ones who he thinkgs should get kicked to the curb are only freeloaders, and not victims of circumstances over which they have no control.

Thank God we do not have a Democratic governor for this would get vetoed immediately. Its about time we cut the cord to the unproductiveand forced them to work.

Perhaps all of the people who will lose their benefits can go to Raleigh and have a meal with this GOV....I think this would actually be a great idea....as he surely can afford to feed these people. Does he really think people like being on unemployment? Perhaps he should try to live off of the funds for a while and then decide...

digitalsorceryinc - "No form of our Goverment is trying to bring jobs back to America. The backbone of America has always been manufacturing. The corporations make billions in profits off Chinese slave labor and pay our congress to look the other way. I guess ill be going to work at wall-mart. Its the only place left hiring. "DISGUSTED"

Walmart won't hire the over-qualified. None of the other business that start employees off at minimum or near-minimum wage will either because interviewing, hiring and training people costs money.

When I was in Walmart management, that cost $2,100 per person to get a person fully trained in all company processes and procedures, and on the floor, and that was many years ago.

That's money smart business won't throw away on an over-qualified employee sure to leave the first time they're offered a job and earnings they're truly worth.

we republicans are in charge. time for some people to start looking for jobs.

After working full time for over 30 yrs, I was laid off 8 months ago. Have put in over 400 applications with a handfull of interviews. I am educated and in good shape. There are not many jobs out there. I even apply for warehouse work, anything! If you had said that to my face, your lights would have been out in seconds. How long have you worked in your life?

"grow a garden"? That will fix everything! "cry babies"?

Never thought anyone could ever be this uncompassionate to others. Karma is going to bite you on this one.

Best thing that anybody who doesn't like this bill can do is make Pat unemployed in 4 years. He has to put up or start packing.

Lady Marksman - "End unemployment benefits and get anyone who has been receiving welfare/food stamps/EBT for more than 24 months needs to be cut off!!

Social Services are there to help people get from point A to point B - help them until they are able to do for themselves. It is NOT intenced to support and pay people's living expenses for years and years!!!"

Including the elderly and disabled? Including disabled military Veterans who lost limbs or sanity in battle?

Be careful now!!!

It isn't just lazy baby-birthing people on those programs. Those programs also include the deaf and blind and limbless, etc.

There was a time when UE benefits were for only 6 months. Benefits have been extended by previous administrations. It's silly to blame republicans for anything in this state up to now. I agree with the concept that you have to stop the bleeding. McCrory referred to it as paying off the credit card. It's gonna hurt for a while but it will be ok. It took our family 3 years and an adjusted way of living in order to get to a place where we were not going into further debt every day. To get rid of debt/deficit you have to stop spending first. If this doesn't work I guarantee something else will be tried by "those republicans". it's better than spending more and putting it off as Perdue, Squeezly, Meg Scott Phillips and her posse have done. Dems in NC have given us criminals not leaders.

clearwaterman - "Do away with the EPA and OSHA and there will be too many jobs over night."

And then those people will be on unemployment too.

Think people, ya gotta think things through before commenting.

Welfare to work brought out the same cries of "babies will starve" behavior and response. Amazingly, people decided they COULD get off welfare after all.

I'm all for it. I will say though that there are people that are probably trying to get jobs and it would be nice to see who has been filling out applications to maybe extend their benefits since they're trying but alot of people are starting to act like welfare recipients and just sit around and wait for that check. NC needs to get rid of its debt.

"The current status quo of how we've done unemployment has not put more people on the payroll of private-sector jobs. It's put more people on the government payrolls of unemployment," he said. "We can no longer afford to do that in North Carolina. We are changing our policy now, and that will be one of the first bills I sign." Actually, the lower federal tax rates is what was touted as putting more people onto payrolls. Be truthful and tell us how that has worked the past 11 years, Governor? Even with the recession, lower tax rates should have minimized the recessions effects since business people just love to hire people based on low tax tax rates. Let's see you walk into the grown up world and pass a law that would prohibit businesses with more than 1,000 employees from laying off people unless the business has a high risk of folding. That would keep people employed more so than playing with taxes.

Heavenly - "Food, shelter and clothing is all it takes to survive. grow a garden, multi family dwellings with more than one family assisting in work finance and others for child care..."

Where do you think the unemployed are turning??? Unemployment only pays 40% of what one earned when they worked. They have no alternative but to depend on others, and on one another.

Now these people will turn to welfare and food stamps when their unemployment runs out, and once again, the TAXPAYER will foot the bill instead of the COMPANY that laid them off.

"I'm no O fan, but Barry wasn't the one who made or oversaw the person who made the $2.5B accounting error at the NC ESC that caused this mess."

No, $2.5 billion we owe the feds is from Bev signing up for federal extensions of unemployment, which, by the way is on it's 10th consecutive extension.

26 weeks is what the plan called for, not 99 weeks endlessly. Is it any wonder there is no money at all?

Never mind that the audit of the ESC in NC uncovered total failure of that agency along with DHHS, DOT etc. And Bev never fired a one, not one. Nobody was held accountable.

Well, it's time for serious control and it won't be easy but it is the responsibility of someone else to clean up the mess that has accumulated.

I was unemployed in this great state for 30 months in this recession. I exhausted extended federal benefits. I am employed now thank goodness. Please Governor, don't make other people suffer who lost their jobs through no fault of their own after July 1 of this year.

TV_D_Seat - "I don't have that issue to deal with because I know children are expensive so I specifically made a conscience decision not to have them until I'm well established and don't need a job to raise them."

Then I guess you don't know that those who got laid off first were middle and upper management people, people who thought they WERE "well established".

And many of them are STILL looking for jobs in middle age, and are facing age discrimination when companies hire kids right out of college they can get for peanuts instead of paying a little more for someone with the same (or more) degrees who is already full trained and has experience.

That's one reason why customer service in the US has declined, these kids straight from college have little clue how to treat a customer.

I don't understand why some of you think that someone that is now unemployed doesn't want to work. Maybe you guys are slow. A working person is unlikely to not want to survive so, that means they want to work. Oh well I'm actively looking so if I don't have anything by July I will be living in the governor's mansion. That's government assistance too.

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