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mentor


golo url: mentor.golo.com

born: 1961

gender: male

golo member since: March 18, 2008

about mentor

I am a freethinker...a scientific naturalist, if you will. 

 

Freethought: a philosophical viewpoint that holds that beliefs should be formed on the basis of science and logic and not be influenced by authority, emotion, tradition, or dogma.  

 

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered...

Religion is answers that may never be questioned... 

 

 

Politically I would self-identify as a moderate, though some other golo members might still consider me a "moonbat." At times my political views tend to be more Libertarian, which is one reason I have so much admiration for Thomas Jefferson.  It seems political points of view are treated as stereotypical caricatures by many members. It's always easier to attack your own cartoonish version of the other person's views than to understand what the other person's views actually are.

 

One of my favorite pastimes is studying the philosophers of history, especially in the area of religion. I spent years mentally "at sea" on the topic, knowing my Methodist upbringing wasn't ringing true in my mind...yet not being willing to entertain the possibility that what I had believed all my life might not really be true. I came across the writings of a man named Robert G. Ingersoll, and realized I had stumbled on what I was looking for. If you have never seen or read any of his speeches, do yourself a favor and do so! You can find his work (among others) at www.infidels.org  He echoed all my unspoken sentiments about everything that was wrong with Christianity.

 

Why I Am An Agnostic  (1896)

About the Holy Bible     (1894)

 

 

I floated for a short while in the deist realm, along with the likes of (the much maligned) Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. After more study of the theist/non-theist debate, and soaking up all the modern evolutionary biology I could get my hands on, I began to realize that the universe is explainable without a god as a first cause...in fact it was more convoluted to insert a complex un-caused being at the beginning! Ockham's razor chops away the unnecessary complexity and leaves a simple conclusion: The universe, in some form or other, has always existed. A hard concept for us to grasp, but much simpler than a creator god who was there when it started - but who had done "god only knows" before that! (pun intended)

The hardest part of letting go of God is letting go of the idea of an afterlife...we all somehow feel we should continue on forever, even after our bodies die. I came to realize that this life is all we have. This bothered me for a bit, but it makes a lot more sense than tripping off into an eternity of existence after just a quick 'blip' of a biological life. Epicurus long ago noted that death need not be feared..."If I am here, death is not! When death comes, I shall not be here." Why fear something we will never "share the room with", so to speak? Mark Twain brought his wit and common sense to the topic as well when he said, "I was dead for millions of years before I was born and it never inconvenienced me a bit!" I expect it will be the same for all of us as well. My memory of 2112 will be the same as my memories of 1812! :-) The belief that our lives are just a quick prelude to some vague eternity to come later robs us of the full appreciation for the life we have right here, right now! When we can realize that this is our one and only life, it becomes all the more special and dear to us. 

The other difficult part of letting go of religious belief is realizing that there will be no "final justice". Hitler is dead; simply dead. There is no hell for him to go to...his existence is ended except for the horrible memories of all the wrongs he perpetrated on humanity while he was alive. Horror was his legacy. Hopefully his miserable life will continue to teach us what the fruits of racial hatred and fascism really are.

You and I have our own opportunity to leave a legacy as well...hopefully a positive one! Maybe this is our shot at immortality after all - to leave behind good memories in the minds of people who knew us..to bequeath to the future all the best we could muster, seen through the eyes of our children.

But, I digress. If you want something to happen in your life, go out and make it happen! If you want justice, you will have to work for it. There is no celestial umpire that is going to call the game in your favor and fix all that was wrong with your life. Prayer is mind-talk and may help some people, but if you use your mind and your reasoning skills, one day you will realize that you're only talking to yourself.  YOU are the architect of your future! Be proud of your successes, and don't beat yourself up over your failures. Life is short, and precious....live it for what it is: a rare and special opportunity!  

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Please don't misunderstand my purpose here solely based on the amount of material I present relating to non-belief. Actually, I would characterize myself as more of a logic-based polemicist than an iconoclast. I have no agenda to "bash" religious faith per se, or to cast aspersions on anyone for whom faith and religion are important.  In my contributions I will do my best to avoid contributing to the consequences and pitfalls of a world in which the lines between fact and opinion, informed expertise and amateurish speculation are willfully blurred.

 

 

 

Fun YouTube Destinations!

MadTV Carlin sketch. 

A few notable quotes.

A few thoughts from Sam Harris.

It's not always easy to be secular in the U.S.

 

"Of all religions, the Christian should of course inspire the most tolerance, but until now Christians have been the most intolerant of all men." - Voltaire

 

"I would defend the liberty of consenting adult creationists to practice whatever intellectual perversions they like in the privacy of their own homes; but it is also necessary to protect the young and innocent. -  Arthur C. Clarke

 

The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.  -  Abraham Lincoln

 

In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination.  -  Mark Twain 

 

Fear is the mother of all gods. Nature does all things spontaneously by herself without their meddling. -  Lucretius

 

 

About the name Mentor: Years ago, when I was running a bbs, I had a user with this handle. He was an old guy who had a way of bringing just the right mix of wisdom and common sense to a discussion. He's long gone now, and I use the name mostly as a tribute to him.   

 

We now have a group for atheist/agnostic golo members! Please apply if you would like to be part of it:  

 nc-atheists.golo.com  

 

An expanded blog on these topics is under construction on Wordpress HERE. Comments and discussion are welcome! If you prefer, you may reach me directly at free.thought2@gmail.com.

 


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I had no idea the Ivy League was so slovenly. :)

Well, she has a habit of painting atheists/pagans/neopagans/non-believers with a wide WIDE brush, with a "you are either with us or against us" ideal that is somewhat irritating. I was just setting her straight...

yeah, I know, good luck with that...

My god can beat up your god...

Nanny nanny boo boo..

Mentor - My answer was a bit wordy, so I put it in a blog only my friends could see: http://www.wral.com/golo/blogpost/3414408/?golo_action=cbp

I also hit your lets be friends button so if you add me as a friend and go to that link you can read my answer.

Mentor, on my moms side I had grandparents from 4 different countries ( Sweden, Norway, German and Ireland) and when they all got together I didn't know whether to wind my glockenspiel or scratch my Lederhosen...

Never. Which is why that blog was so ODD.

I love the quote. I wish you'd seen that blog earlier, it would've been a nice addition. :)

Mentor, thanks for the comment on my profile page. It looks like we may have a lot in common!

http://ufailpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/freethinker.jpg

I knew you would get a kick out of it :)

"Hmm - st8kdryver has a clone...right down to the phonetic use of the number 8."

Obi Wan has taught you well...but you are not a Jedi yet!

It seems st8kdryver insulted the wrong Obama supporter......

"but I had made my assessment purely on word choice and sentence structure...it was very familiar!"

Sadly, not many other GOLO folks would have such awareness.

As The Cramps would say....

The way I talk is just the way I talk....

Hi Mentor! Can't wait to see your list! Maybe you'll get a good one complied in the next few years! LOL! (Re: The Procrastinators group).

I thought we were "friends" already. Hmmmmmmmmm.

:-)

Have a great weekend!

Beth

"The whole story makes me sad."

Indeed....

Such a nice crowd we have on GOLO these days. I go apostate and I still get attacked. LOL

How you been, big guy?

I started out fairly serious on GOLO. Gave up on that and just started acting silly..... there are some who like to rub it in my face that I must be a real piece of work because I alternately quote scripture and hug the ladies..... they get a real charge out of that. Funny..... my offerings are usually, if not always, informational, and I make no claims regarding myself personally. Just bozos looking someone to bash, just because they can. It's all good. LOL

Hello my wonderful friend! I have been so busy lately with my crazy life. One day I hope to be back a little more! I don't want you to think I have forgotten you! ! ! I hope you are doing well! Take care.

You think deeply, write well, and are that rare individual whose unsolicited opionion is a pleasure to read... many thanks for the lesson, boss.

Thanks for the add, new friend! :-)

Just saying bye, shuge... {{{ hug }}}

Take care. Fight the good fight.... *smile*

Always on target, yes you are. Thanks for the comment on Sandra's blog.

I quoted Scripture, but simply for the wisdom it contains. If it accomplishes anything, that's the function of the Holy Spirit. One plants, another waters, but God gives the increase.

Nitrogen is good for the lawn and makes it a pretty green... heavy doses kills it dead as hell.

Have a great day.

It is as I thought. Just touching base.

Hey Mentor

Glad you like it. Some people think it is too strong and now all others I drink is too light. My husband keeps going on about how he hates bold coffee and he loves the Kenya. When I told him he said he likes it because of the way I brew it...

what a spazz

Have a wonderful week!

Ah, Mentor... I just read your "Intelligent Falling" post from The (hallowed) Onion, and must say it's been a while since I've seen anyone kick a hornet's nest that dumb. Did you see that swarm coming?

Anyway you cut it, that was classic... again, many thanks for the read!

Re: the Onion, I've been reading and enjoying it for years. It's always fun turning new people on to it - and it's surprising to me how many folks just haven't ever heard of it.

mentor,

I have always thought that we needed a test to get a voter registration card, just like for a driver's license. ;)

Ummm... not to sound ignorant... but could you please enlighten me as to what a "File 13" is??

Thanks!!

Hey mentor, if you don't feel weird about it, will you shoot me an email at imjustlaura@gmail.com ?

Re the Darwin apology thread, "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins is another great read.

Sorry I could not join in on the evolution discussion yesterday, but got pulled away.

If you haven't seen this you may find it interesting. It is broken into several segments to make it user friendly.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html

Hi Mentor! Just stopping in to say hello. Hope you've been doing well and have had a good week.

I'm enjoying the cooler temps. It felt perfect out, late this afternoon. Heck, I'm ready for that four letter word, so many just detest: SNOW!

:-)

Beth

That took me a few more seconds than it should have, but I got it!

!uoy ot thgin dooG

Beth

I'll take him at his word, but I did find it odd and a strange coincidence at the very least.

Uhhhhhhhhhhh yeah...I was pretty sure GOLO hiccuped or something because we both got deleted. Weird! Maybe the blog broke with too many atheists on it, hahaha.

I personally think a lot of Christians who worship Jesus(tm) are going to be in for a BIG surprise if they meet the real Jesus in the afterlife. They're in for a big b**chslap, in my opinion. Especially some of the ones on this site...

Hey, what can I say - I was feeling feisty last night. :-)

Of course, I went to bed with a headache - guess that came from the feeling of banging my noggin up against a brick wall. It's a little scary how some people can be that obtuse.

Have a great Wednesday!

"You might need the kleenex this time, V. It may be the only satisfaction you receive for a while. ;-)"

I will get no satisfaction from this election other than seeing it finally grind to an end.

*smile*

If you liked the transcript of Palin w/ Couric, have you seen her remarks to Karzai? Here you see a master diplomat, superbly briefed, in action: http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/us-nysara0924b,0,105820.story

Hey Dude....... thanks for stopping by my Heels blog. I hope all is well in your little corner of the world.

I'm looking over your comments...... you have good company there. For the most part, anyway...... lol.

"Vehement If Not Always Coherent"???

Snicker! :-)

Better Miami Sound Machine, than "Oh Mickey you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind, hey Mickey! Hey Mickey!"

"Does it make you miss Lucretia?? ;-)"

Everything makes me miss 'Cretia. She was a lifetime ago.. best time of my life. Driving along Black Jack Canyon Road in the Grand Canyon at midnight with the headlights off with just the full moon as a guide, drafting off big rigs driving between St Louis and Chicago, watching my new hubby get all po'd trying to make a left hand turn in a town square in Massachuaetts (took him 23 minutes LMBO - wouldn't listen to me. Told him it was a snow state and nobody *ever* comes to a complete stop!) Trips to Disney World, Busch Gardens, DC, NY, Pensacola. We lived in her... *wistful smile*

She burned up in a parking lot. I never would have sold her..

*wink*

Thanks, m.. Hope your memories are as good! Make some today, 'kay? {{{ hug }}}

It was a wonderfully sweet comment; thoughtful, personal. Thank you. And the Camaro - I bet you want it more for the memories... like me and 'Cretia.

That was her vanity tag -- 'Cretia. Drove people nuts.

"This sounds like a GOP strategist who accidentally looked in the mirror."

LOL! One of the crazy little reasons I'm convinced people often have more in common with each other than they realize. Same argument, just different perspective.

"He had to conform to the GOP template to get the nomination - now he's given free rein to tha same group of PR thugs that sank him in 2000 against Bush."

So, was it a chip set they implanted in you? An intercranial bleed, perhaps? How have you thrown all of your 'libertarian' beliefs down the well to become an Obamatron?

It's time you came out of the liberal closet - say it loud, say it proud - Screw liberty, Mentor's voting democrat!

I agree with you re: the "Smearing Obama because we have no other tricks up our sleeve" sort of campaign that McCain is running. I think he may wind up deeply regretting it.

There's something to say about wanting a job so badly that you'll contort your core beliefs to get it.

It means you probably should abandon the idea.

He got the nom. He could've eased off and been himself. Heck, if he'd picked a better running mate, and went back to the guy from 2000, *I* might have voted for him.

*sigh*

Sad, ain't it?

Do you suppose that one he was nominated, he could've just done whatever he wanted?

I mean, ultimately, he is running against Barack Obama.

It's not like the people who vote straight Republican ticket, OR the ones who think the Dems are useless, OR the ones who'd rather vote for a toad than a half black president wouldn't have voted for him anyway.

And that's a good chunk of the folks in the 'red states', isn't it?

I'd have liked to see Hutchinson as his vp, really.

Now he's just a more intelligent version of Bush. With a running mate that is probably scarier, in many ways. That's sad.

How ya doin, Mentor?

jointheir blocked me on the “obama christian?” blog. I guess if I’m not agreeing that Obama is the antichrist, I’m not allowed to play. :) Looks like your comment might have got zapped too.

This is the most pleasant post I will read this evening...thank you lolly. :-)"

Thank you.

My daughter's wedding's bride's maids dresses came in today. About half of them don't fit. You have no idea how much your kind word meant to me. THANK YOU!!

mentor - i thought that blog was a great find! however, i was startled by the overwhelming sound of crickets when reading through the comments. i am surprised (although i don't know why) that a certain group of staunch neocons on here didn't try to blow it apart. i dunno...maybe reality is sinking in on their side?

"I don't think I could bear 4 years of McCain and the moose-hunter! ;-)"

I am definitely with you there. While McCain simply pointed out the obvious when he informed Obama that he was not, in fact, President Bush, the truth of the matter is that he has firmly stood behind Bush on nearly every single issue over the last four years. We can all see where Bush has taken country.

Aside from the fact that McCain would likely be a continuation of Bush, the primary reasons I am strongly against him are (1) i think my unborn child is better educated on the economy, and (2)I am honestly very afraid of what McCain's approach to foreign policy would lead to in the volatile world of today.

Yes I do remember that. I still can't believe he's gone, he was a great comedian!

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