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golo url: mentor.golo.com

born: 1961

gender: male

golo member since: March 18, 2008

about mentor

I am a freethinker...a scientific naturalist, if you will. 

 

Freethought: a philosophical viewpoint that holds that beliefs should be formed on the basis of science and logic and not be influenced by authority, emotion, tradition, or dogma.  

 

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered...

Religion is answers that may never be questioned... 

 

 

Politically I would self-identify as a moderate, though some other golo members might still consider me a "moonbat." At times my political views tend to be more Libertarian, which is one reason I have so much admiration for Thomas Jefferson.  It seems political points of view are treated as stereotypical caricatures by many members. It's always easier to attack your own cartoonish version of the other person's views than to understand what the other person's views actually are.

 

One of my favorite pastimes is studying the philosophers of history, especially in the area of religion. I spent years mentally "at sea" on the topic, knowing my Methodist upbringing wasn't ringing true in my mind...yet not being willing to entertain the possibility that what I had believed all my life might not really be true. I came across the writings of a man named Robert G. Ingersoll, and realized I had stumbled on what I was looking for. If you have never seen or read any of his speeches, do yourself a favor and do so! You can find his work (among others) at www.infidels.org  He echoed all my unspoken sentiments about everything that was wrong with Christianity.

 

Why I Am An Agnostic  (1896)

About the Holy Bible     (1894)

 

 

I floated for a short while in the deist realm, along with the likes of (the much maligned) Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. After more study of the theist/non-theist debate, and soaking up all the modern evolutionary biology I could get my hands on, I began to realize that the universe is explainable without a god as a first cause...in fact it was more convoluted to insert a complex un-caused being at the beginning! Ockham's razor chops away the unnecessary complexity and leaves a simple conclusion: The universe, in some form or other, has always existed. A hard concept for us to grasp, but much simpler than a creator god who was there when it started - but who had done "god only knows" before that! (pun intended)

The hardest part of letting go of God is letting go of the idea of an afterlife...we all somehow feel we should continue on forever, even after our bodies die. I came to realize that this life is all we have. This bothered me for a bit, but it makes a lot more sense than tripping off into an eternity of existence after just a quick 'blip' of a biological life. Epicurus long ago noted that death need not be feared..."If I am here, death is not! When death comes, I shall not be here." Why fear something we will never "share the room with", so to speak? Mark Twain brought his wit and common sense to the topic as well when he said, "I was dead for millions of years before I was born and it never inconvenienced me a bit!" I expect it will be the same for all of us as well. My memory of 2112 will be the same as my memories of 1812! :-) The belief that our lives are just a quick prelude to some vague eternity to come later robs us of the full appreciation for the life we have right here, right now! When we can realize that this is our one and only life, it becomes all the more special and dear to us. 

The other difficult part of letting go of religious belief is realizing that there will be no "final justice". Hitler is dead; simply dead. There is no hell for him to go to...his existence is ended except for the horrible memories of all the wrongs he perpetrated on humanity while he was alive. Horror was his legacy. Hopefully his miserable life will continue to teach us what the fruits of racial hatred and fascism really are.

You and I have our own opportunity to leave a legacy as well...hopefully a positive one! Maybe this is our shot at immortality after all - to leave behind good memories in the minds of people who knew us..to bequeath to the future all the best we could muster, seen through the eyes of our children.

But, I digress. If you want something to happen in your life, go out and make it happen! If you want justice, you will have to work for it. There is no celestial umpire that is going to call the game in your favor and fix all that was wrong with your life. Prayer is mind-talk and may help some people, but if you use your mind and your reasoning skills, one day you will realize that you're only talking to yourself.  YOU are the architect of your future! Be proud of your successes, and don't beat yourself up over your failures. Life is short, and precious....live it for what it is: a rare and special opportunity!  

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Fun YouTube Destinations!

MadTV Carlin sketch. 

A few notable quotes.

A few thoughts from Sam Harris.

It's not always easy to be secular in the U.S.

 

"Of all religions, the Christian should of course inspire the most tolerance, but until now Christians have been the most intolerant of all men." - Voltaire

 

"I would defend the liberty of consenting adult creationists to practice whatever intellectual perversions they like in the privacy of their own homes; but it is also necessary to protect the young and innocent. -  Arthur C. Clarke

 

The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.  -  Abraham Lincoln

 

In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination.  -  Mark Twain 

 

Fear is the mother of all gods. Nature does all things spontaneously by herself without their meddling. -  Lucretius

 

 

About the name Mentor: Years ago, when I was running a bbs, I had a user with this handle. He was an old guy who had a way of bringing just the right mix of wisdom and common sense to a discussion. He's long gone now, and I use the name mostly as a tribute to him.   

 

We now have a group for atheist/agnostic golo members! Please apply if you would like to be part of it:  

 nc-atheists.golo.com  

 

An expanded blog on these topics is under construction on Wordpress HERE. Comments and discussion are welcome! If you prefer, you may reach me directly at free.thought2@gmail.com.

 


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favorite movies: good sci-fi

favorite hobbies: computers - philosophy - astronomy - audio production

favorite tv shows: any good educational show covering science topics...the daily show... the colbert report

favorite restaurants: good mexican restaurants

favorite web sites: pandasthumb.org (recently)

favorite vacation spots: uhhh....vacation?





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Hi Mentor! No, I hadn't been around for a while due to my job. I've got a slow day today so I've jumped all back in the water...

I see no profile change...no matter what my profile says!!!

How did the vacation go?

Man, every time I come to your profile there is that damm advertisement "Is there a God? Click to find six reasons that god exists"

I just checked out your wordpress site. It looks like something I'll be in...plus, cool choice for the banner pic.

"Finally seeing the face and hearing the voice behind the blog persona did the trick. Instead of getting frustrated...I think I'll have to chuckle now. ;)"

Hey...sorry I missed it. Apparently it has been removed. Can't help but wonder if she saw your note and took it down. LOL.

Oh well, sorry you had to go through that.

Mentor - That was a great comment on the blog. Thanks. You actually brought out what I said in the beginning about trying to use atheist but it didn't work so I had to go to Scientology.

The thing is that we actually aspire (or at least most say they do) for a separation of church and state and freedom of religion. So the example broke down because unless I portrayed the atheist majority as active persecutors of the religious then the society would function quite well and in fact be very much closer to the ideals of Jefferson than we have today.

Received your email :-D

All I can say to that is it bears an uncanny resemblance to Ozzy Osbourne. The bitterness and anger at the world make perfect sense now - I would probably bitter and angry myself were I in those shoes.

That said, it will get no quarter from me. It's still fun to poke it with the pointy stick. I don't see that ending any time soon.

The church and state battle still reigns: http://www.news-leader.com/article/20090830/BREAKING01/90830018/1007/NEWS01/Sedalia+school+district+recalls+evolution-themed+shirts

My inner Rogue now busts out...Everyone beware ( except my friends, of which you have always been one, Mentor)

Morning! I hope you have a happy Thursday!

LOL...indeed it does. He is letting me off easy though...it could be much worse =P

You are soooooooooooooooooooooo right! Hee hee!

:-)

Beth

My first post from my new blackberry. I love new toys. This has to be the next step in evolution. You were my first test. You should feel special. :)

I offered to do a blog series with him where we would discuss our respective positions. - Mentor

I wonder if you and I could do this. I respect you greatly and I think I could learn a lot. We are above the base reactions that we normally see. Could this be done in a way that would not turn into people just trying to hurt each other. Not us, but those who may read and respond.

"That's easy for YOU to say. ;)"

Google er min venn!

(http://www.babylon.com/affiliates/landing/index.php?id=CD5137&textlink=esgn41064)

Thanks for the explanation; my caffeine is just starting to kick in now, lol!

Have a great evening!

hmmmm.... thinking about it some more ... but it seems like a flim-flam to me. But your explanation holds water - for the moment...

But, I got the BIGGEST chuckle out of your comments explaining -on the blog and on my profile- with that Spock avatar in the corner. Kinda 'transported' me to the Enterprise for a minute or two. *grin*

Did you check out my link from earlier?

I can be verbose at times! - mentor

Shoot I can be down right long winded. :) I like all those formats that you described. Maybe we could do a dry run on the a&a group. It is a fact that those in that group would be much better than the public forum. I just like discussing things with you guys. It always make me think which is always a positive thing.

Thanks for at least entertaining the idea. I really like to discuss and explore my own positions and like I said I always learn something which is just fabulous.

"I didn't intend to roll out the "pie in the sky" stuff. That's what reading Ray Kurzweil will do to ya! I'm a sci-fi geek anyway - I can dream! ;)"

The subject of the blog lends itself to considering sci-fi. It practically demands it. Medical technology WILL continue to advance. Man will never stop exploring new frontiers. Which means that unless there are comparable advances in other life sustaining technologies, (sci-fi today, reality tomorrow) we will outlive our resources. We just won't outlive them for long.

I'm not sure that I'm back. I was just bored at work earlier and decided to pop in for a bit. Not much seems to have changed.

"Ken - I saw your Medlin reference. I think her profile is off the board now. (?) She may have departed."

No, I believe she is lurking. My remark was based on her post last night accusing drb of being elcid in disguise.

Interesting. Her profile is set to "friends only". Until just a few days ago, she was on my friends list, but I have apparently been defrocked (even though I have not commented on any blog of hers, or about any post of hers).

"You never see Clark Kent and Superman at the same time! hmmmm...."

Must be those nerdy glasses drb wears when he's on golo.

"Even a "friends only" profile can be found in a search..."

I found it a few minutes ago. That's how I discovered I had been defriended.

The "Indian Summer boredom" is trying to set in! :)

""Oh, stop using logic."

(un)fortunately, that's one part of my brain that I'm unable to disable." - T-man

We have that in common! :)"

Yeah, it kinda pizzes off the wife occasionally, but other than that, it's served me well.

LOL...please take my last post as it was intended...just a tongue in cheek posting...

(c;

Hi! Hope you're having a great week! You must have a high IQ, because the bold paragraph, starting out, "Please don't misunderstand my purpose," lost me after the first sentence! LOL!!!! Either that, I am just a dumb azz! ROFLOL!

:-)

Beth

NOW, I have to go to youtube and hear my song! I love the way the lyrics in that song, make absolutely NO sense, at all, what so ever! Oh, I just had a light bulb moment....I think I'll change my name to a line in that song - one that makes no sense, of course! :-)

Beth

Thanks for using small words for me. Don't you just love dumbing down occasionally!

Thank, man! I like being a part of it too. You will most definitely have to make the next one.

Thanks, man. oopsie doopsie

Both sides of the political spectrum can find reasons to claim Johnson can't they? 18th century political views don't directly dovetail into contemporary conservative or liberal templates./endquote

well said

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/* knock, knock, knock */

Trick or treat!

"A Twix bar for the little lady! Or would she prefer a Milky Way? :)"

In real life, I don't eat sugar. But in cyber...... The Twix!! /* snarf gobble munch gulp */

Thanks!

"Time to slide the map markers to new positions again, eh? The tactical ballet continues! ;)"

I felt sure that if anyone would recognize the tactical nature of what I'd been up to, it would be you. :-D

The problem with these folks is that they think in 2 dimensions and reactively rather than strategically. Of course the end intention was to encourage an action that served to illustrate my point. In one fell swoop they hurt their own credibility and gave me a soapbox from which to assert the "NOW do you see what I've been talking about all of this time?" position.

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