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Published Nov. 9, 2009
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A consensus seems to have formed here at The Atlantic that the Ft. Hood massacre means not very much at all. Megan McArdle writes that "there is absolutely no political lesson to be learned from this." James Fallows says: "The shootings never mean anything. Forty years later, what did the Charles Whitman massacre 'mean'? A decade later, do we 'know' anything about Columbine?"  And the Atlantic Wire has already investigated the motivation for the shooting, and released its preliminary findings. Of Nidal Malik Hasan, the Wire states: "A 39-year-old Army psychiatrist, he appears to have not been motivated by his Muslim religion, his Palestinian heritage (he is American by nationality), or any related political causes."

It seems, though, that when an American military officer who is a practicing Muslim allegedly shoots forty of his fellow soldiers who are about to deploy to the two wars the United States is currently fighting in Muslim countries, some broader meaning might, over time, be discerned, especially if the officer did, in fact, yell "Allahu Akbar" while murdering his fellow soldiers, as some soldiers say he did. This is the second time this year American soldiers on American soil have been gunned down by a Muslim who was reportedly unhappy with America's wars in the Middle East (the first took place in Arkansas, to modest levels of notice). And, of course, this would not be the first instance of an American Muslim soldier killing fellow soldiers over his disagreements with American foreign policy; in 2003, Army Sgt. Hasan Akbar killed two officers and wounded fourteen others when he rolled a grenade into a tent in a homicidal protest against American policy.
 
I am not arguing, of course, that American Muslims, as a whole, are violently unhappy with America (I've argued the opposite, in fact). But I do think that elite makers of opinion in this country try very hard to ignore the larger meaning of violent acts when they happen to be perpetrated by Muslims. Here's a simple test: If Nidal Malik Hasan had been a devout Christian with pronounced anti-abortion views, and had he attacked, say, a Planned Parenthood office, would his religion have been considered relevant as we tried to understand the motivation and meaning of the attack? Of course. Elite opinion makers do not, as a rule, try to protect Christians and Christian belief from investigation and criticism. Quite the opposite. It would be useful to apply the same standards of inquiry and criticism to all religions.

by Jeffery Goldberg

www.theatlantic.com

 

Filed under: Politics




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At Hood it happened that a DACP unit was closest, could just as well have been an MP unit.

"They are called Military Police, Security Police, Master at Arms and interior guards."

Yes, thank you for that stunning revelation.

How well did that work out at Ft. Hood?

There are some military folks armed on bases. They are called Military Police, Security Police, Master at Arms and interior guards. Also, at Army post you have CIDC Agents and MI Agents. The OSI and NCIS are civilians by and large.

"When this first happened I said, Political Correctness killed these soldiers. I stand by those remarks." / Not.Evilone

As do I! All you have to do is look at some of the posts in these blogs this morning to see why this happened.

"This guy was a plain old disgruntled employee. He has much more in common with the guy who just shot up his business in Orlando than with Muslim terrorists. If we call every Muslim who commits violence a terrorist or jihadist, we are ignoring the underlying cause of this violence. Plain and simple, he didn't want to be deployed and made up a justification for his actions in his head." /Outside the Beltline

So, this "disgruntled employee", OF THE US ARMY, not wanting to be deployed, decided that going berserk and killing scores of fellow soldiers was a better alternative?

You ARE kidding, right?

he could get up right now and admit everything and the liberal left would still tell us it had nothing to do with terrorism. they would say he was waterboarded or something until he said what the crazy right wanted to hear

When the shootings happened they said, Don't jump to conclusions. When the shooter was determined to be a Muslim they said, Don't jump to conclusions. When eyewitnesses reported hearing "hearing Allahu Akbar" during the shootings, they said, Don't jump to conclusions. Now we hear the shooter made attempts to communicate with Al Queda. Still liberal broadcasters try to downplay or outright deny any connection with his Muslim faith. When this first happened I said, Political Correctness killed these soldiers. I stand by those remarks.

"Will the military finally recognize that at least SOME of their soldiers need to be armed at all times while on base?"

Very true. Americans, from our wonderful president on down, have become so complacent about war, and all it's ramifications, that this country is just one big "boom" waiting to happen. These people really believe we can just send our armed troops "over there" and everything will be fine. The ostrich mentality is so prevalent in this country! AND, we've already started to hear the anti-gun crowd talking about how easily this Army Major obtained a gun at a local gun shop! I just can't wait to hear all the whining about that!

Well, this type of incident is exactly why I keep my tools in ready condition, and readily available.

Arfamr, he was not a 'mental health' specialist until after he joined the US Army. The Army trained him for that job. He was an engineer before joining.

Which begs the question, "Why is the army training non-medical people to be mental health counselors and specialists??"

i hope we don't have any "peace loving devout muslims" in the nuclear program...."KAAA BOOOOMMM"

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