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obama wonka and the democrat factory........

Published Nov. 4, 2009
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Somebody stole his candy........

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"I'm not sure what you mean. If you look at those gallup polls, the numbers are increasing. Conservatives are WINNING the cultre war."

You know as well as I do that the answers to a polling question depend entirely on how the question is phrased. Look around you, at the world as it is, and then try to tell me that Conservatives are winning that war. Talk about your rose colored glasses ...

"I think the GOP is in grave danger of splitting - with conservatives striking out to forma 3rd party. Hoffman gives them a reason to work within the party to regain control."

On the possibility of a schism, I'd have to agree with you. That said, I don't think social conservatives are going to win that particular battle.

hockeyrules has learnt himself a new word this week!!! All because of me.rofl

"In other words, you are losing the culture war, as you honestly we're always destined to do."

I'm not sure what you mean. If you look at those gallup polls, the numbers are increasing. Conservatives are WINNING the cultre war.

Or do you mean "winning" like last night was a "win" for Obama?

"Do you think the Republican Party will be running a rabid far righter or a moderate against Owens in 2010?"

I think the GOP is in grave danger of splitting - with conservatives striking out to forma 3rd party. Hoffman gives them a reason to work within the party to regain control.

In other words, you are losing the culture war, as you honestly we're always destined to do. It might be time to focus on battles you can win instead of Pyrrhic victories.

"Um, duh - because the GOP keeps running squishy RINOs who think they need YOUR vote more than they need MINE."

They do, according to your numbers. You realistically have no alternative BUT the Republicans (except maybe not to vote, but that would be stupid on your part.) They can therefore pretty much count on your vote.

Mine, and those of the other 40% in the middle, they have to win by convincing us they're a better alternative. Driving to the right does not make that argument very well, again as demonstrated by the huge DROP in support for conservatism in the NY 23rd. If you want to paint your party into an ideological corner, by all means do so. We'll be happy to take the wins.

"Within the GOP it was."

LOl, really ... Do you think the Republican Party will be running a rabid far righter or a moderate against Owens in 2010? McHugh posted almost 61% of the vote in 2009. Hoffman posted 49% yesterday. Your conservative policies effectively cost the Republicans 12% of their showing.

So, again, you tell me. Is it because the district suddenly became Dem, or because your preferred message didn't resonate?

"If that's the case, why do you guys ever lose an election?"

Um, duh - because the GOP keeps running squishy RINOs who think they need YOUR vote more than they need MINE.

"Sort of like you believing that a majority of Americans share your social views?"/elcid

"A new Gallup Poll, conducted May 7-10, finds 51% of Americans calling themselves "pro-life" on the issue of abortion and 42% "pro-choice."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/more-americans-pro-life-than-pro-choice-first-time.aspx

"Americans' views on same-sex marriage have essentially stayed the same in the past year, with a majority of 57% opposed to granting such marriages legal status and 40% in favor of doing so."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118378/Majority-Americans-Continue-Oppose-Gay-Marriage.aspx

"With some U.S. lawmakers and immigration rights activists stepping up calls for the Obama administration to pursue immigration reform, Gallup finds Americans less favorable toward immigration than they were a year ago. Half (50%) say immigration should be decreased, up from 39% last year."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/122057/Americans-Return-Tougher-Immigration-Stance.aspx

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