GOLO: Go Local. Talk Local. Share Local.
lightfoot3: blog ↓

lightfoot3's blog


re-post: the retired marine and the robbers

Published Jun. 16, 2009
Views: 144

That’s the title of a recent article by Massad Ayoob, a well known gun enthusiast, writer, etc.  While some of you may be scratching your heads at his name, us certified gun nuts know him and his advice very, very well.  He writes a series called the “Ayoob Files” in which he dissects a self defense shooting, analyzing all details, from the good to the bad.  I wanted to highlight this particular story because this one is a textbook example of concealed carry and self defense, plus it also gives you some philosophy of those of us that believe in responsible and intelligent concealed carry.  The scenarios the anti-gun GOLO members keep setting up, with someone robbing you at gunpoint and you reach for your gun, are not realistic to the thinking gun owner.  True, there are some pro-gun people on GOLO that advocate shooting someone for just about anything, but they are not what I classify as the “thinking” gun owner. 

 

I’ll give a brief summary of the event in the article, but I’ll also provide a link to the article so you can read the details yourself.  I don’t know how long the link will remain active. 

 

A 71 year old retired Marine stops in at a Subway shop to grab a bite to eat.  While he’s there, two armed, disguised men rob the place.  The Marine gives up his wallet, with SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS in it peacefully.  While the Marine has a concealed firearm, he’s not considering using his weapon at this point.  This is important.  Money and material things are not worth killing over, and especially aren’t worth the hassle/expense of going to court to defend yourself against a zealous anti-gun district attorney.  I’ve even read were some that carry concealed will also keep extra money rolled around a matchbook or something that they can toss to someone robbing or hassling them, in hopes that it will pacify them so they will NOT have to draw their weapon.

 

So, the armed robbers now have all the money.  At this point, criminals just interested in some quick cash will usually flee the scene.  But these robbers order him (and maybe the store manager?) to the BACK of the store, into the restroom, and orders him onto the floor.  DANGER SIGNS!!!  All too often this is the warning sign that an execution is about to happen.  It has played out time and time again in other cases where robbers kill their victims.  In other robbery incidents, the bad guys herd them to the back, then shoot them.  The article even mentions a recent one.  The Marine had already made up his mind that this was NOT going to happen to him.  As the Marine pretends to get on the floor, he draws his weapon and begins firing.  In the end, he kills bad guy #1 and wounds bad buy #2.  Had the Marine not been carrying a concealed weapon, more than likely you would not know the finer details of this incident because all the witnesses (i.e. victims) would be dead.

 

The article is a good read because it demonstrates why some of us carry and how it can save lives.  It also will give those of us that do carry some things to think about, like what we carry, how we carry, how we would react, etc.  Again, I wanted to present this article because it is a text book example of concealed carry being used in self defense.

 

The link to the article:

http://fmgpublications.ipaperus.com/FMGPublications/AmericanHandgunner/AHJA09/?page=62 

 

NOTE to anti-gun people:  I don’t block or delete.  I welcome your comments on this blog.  But sadly, there are some pro-gun idiots out here that will turn to personal attacks because they disagree with your anti-gun sentiments.  While I disagree with their methods, I won’t block or delete their posts.  Be warned you may have to weather the storm if you post.

 

PS:  The blog image is an example of my latest acquisition (though not my particular gun).  I plan on replacing the rubber Hogue grips with some custom Delrin ones, to make it slimmer for concealed carry.

 

Filed under: Hobbies




47 Comments


Golo

Welcome to GOLO, where WRAL.com visitors can comment on stories and create profile pages, blogs and photo galleries.

You must be a registered WRAL.com user to use these tools. Click here to register or log in.

View Comments View Comments


page 1 | 2
<prev    next>
sort order: oldest first | newest first

ole light one, I read this earlier when someone (getright?) linked it, of course I had to read it again. Wanted to be sure the outcome was the same!

PS So I was introducing a friend to someone else as an "ex-Marine", WRONG, he let me know real quick that there was no such thing.

I did the earlier blog, though GetRight could have also done the story on one of his blogs. I love reading the “Ayoob Files”. What a contrast between the Marine’s main carry and his backup, eh? And the second guy didn’t go down, with a shot to the chest!!! Ayoob's articles REALLY make you think about what and how you carry.

you got me now, what is "Ayoob Files"?

“you got me now, what is "Ayoob Files"?” - jackadoo

As in Massad Ayoob, gun enthusiast, writer, trainer, etc. He’s famous among us gun nuts. :) Among other things he writes (like books), he does a column in gun magazines called the “Ayoob Files”. The article will take an incident where there was shooting, and dissect it. He gives the circumstances, the facts, the results, what went right, what went wrong, etc. He’ll also discuss the legal ramifications. I think he’s also available to testify as an expert witness if you’re ever up against an anti-gun DA looking to put a notch in his belt. Really great reading, especially if you carry concealed.

LF, thanks, I'll check him out. I don't carry yet. Mine are pee shooters any way, .38 (a POS),.32,.25.

one mo LF, Q. if you get a permit to carry, I assume it is not for a specific gun, correct?

Flippin' great story. Well written and very informative. I haven't read Ayoob in a while.

Love this story and thank you for the repost. I had not read the previous one. It sure gives me something to think about. I am planning to acquire a gun in the future and to get a concealed carry license, as I have to make long trips back and forth through NC (8 hour round trip, per weekend) and as a woman, I want to make sure I am protected, as well as my child/children. Thanks again. =)

I think EVERY American should be armed.

Divorce lawyers would dissapear by the thousands overnight.

page 1 | 2
<prev    next>
sort order: oldest first | newest first

Please log in to add comment.

most recent
   blogs    galleries    profiles    groups    popular  

happy thanksgiving!

    I do hope this day finds you all well and happy. May the blessings of food,...

arch enemy

I saved this band for today since today is special. PLease enjoy compliments of Smallfaucet:...

afraid to kill

Here is another column by retired Colonel Ralph Peters, by far my favorite columnist, he writes for...

gobble! gobble! gobble!

GOOD MORNING! Woke up so went ahead and started doing a little prep-work for the humungous meal! ...

wednesday - november 25, 2009`s - bemis - jackson, tn`s - historical climate data !

{ Happy Thanksgiving Everyone } Lo  :  37  °  Hey...

couple crashes obama state dinner- embarrassing?

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20091125/NEWS02/711259690...

the turkey as our national symbol

  Did Ben really want the turkey to be the symbol of the United States of America? In...

the war on america - socialism won't work

 As we sit down to the beginning of the Holiday Season - There are still a few folks who believe...

Generic Profile Image

common sense regarding ft hood

http://www.strangemilitary.com/content/item/157670.html We...

holidays are not always happy

One morning in Sandra's Blog for Hope, we had an outpouring of sad stories related to the holidays. ...

   blogs    galleries    profiles    groups    popular  

Generic Profile Image

profile of barbedwards1982

I'm the mother of two wonderful children, a son age 10 and a daughter age 7. I have been married to...

profile of the m group interiors

Interior Designers serving clients in Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Cary, Wake Forest and surrounding counties.

profile of tafiliclan1

Where you're going dictates your past.

profile of cokacolasis

fry the child killers and rapist, do not let them lay up in prison for years and years, while we the taxpayers pay for the room and board. take my money and crank up sparky!

Generic Profile Image

profile of rangerdavid

Gun totin left wing liberal vegitarian

profile of faye prosser - smart shopper

My goal is to help everyone live more comfortably within their means. I love to spread the...

Generic Profile Image

profile of js_2

Too busy.

Generic Profile Image

profile of divamomof4

Happiness comes from within...

   blogs    galleries    profiles    groups    popular  

privately public (7 members)

A Public Group for Blogging for "Friends Only" profiles.   This group...

golo happy birthday club (26 members)

  1/8 - justafella  2/2 - sandlapper 2/9 - Sue Donym  2/10-Pom...

therustybucketkidsclub (3 members)

Fans of The Rusty Bucket Kids Club, as well as cast and crew share the fun and the joy the movie and music are bringing to the community.

the book club (17 members)

This group is for those that would like to get involved with monthly readings, or readings at your...

Generic Profile Image

veterans affairs-are you a vfw (2 members)

OK, lets hear from all our proud Veterans here in Golo land! What branch of service were/are...

unemployed goloers corporation (10 members)

The unemployed Goloers Corporation is a newly formed corporation that contains the skills of all people...

motivation for weight loss (4 members)

If you want to lose weight or have already lost the weight.. we need each other to inspire each other to reach the determined goal..

golo weight loss buddy group (9 members)

  This group is for anyone (male or female) interested in "buddying up" with...

crew the raccoon (1 member)

Fans, volunteers and freinds of the Peak City Film Festival in historic downtown Apex, NC, November 20, 21, 22  2009.  

Generic Profile Image

the throne of wisdom (12 members)

   blogs    galleries    profiles    groups    popular  

profile of angela_the golo editor

I am the Managing Editor of GOLO. I've worked in broadcast, print and online news for 15...

the daily commute (32 members)

Hi, there.  I'm Brian Shrader, the On-Time Traffic fellow on WRAL News.  I created...

couple crashes obama state dinner- embarrassing?

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20091125/NEWS02/711259690...

gobble! gobble! gobble!

GOOD MORNING! Woke up so went ahead and started doing a little prep-work for the humungous meal! ...

holidays are not always happy

One morning in Sandra's Blog for Hope, we had an outpouring of sad stories related to the holidays. ...

the war on america - socialism won't work

 As we sit down to the beginning of the Holiday Season - There are still a few folks who believe...

the turkey as our national symbol

  Did Ben really want the turkey to be the symbol of the United States of America? In...

thanksgiving in afghanistan.....

Thank you seems so inadequate, but, what else can you say on this the eve of our national...

wednesday - november 25, 2009`s - bemis - jackson, tn`s - historical climate data !

{ Happy Thanksgiving Everyone } Lo  :  37  °  Hey...