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the retired marine and the robbers

Published Jun. 15, 2009
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That’s the title of a recent article by Massad Ayoob, a well known gun enthusiast, writer, etc.  While some of you may be scratching your heads at his name, us certified gun nuts know him and his advice very, very well.  He writes a series called the “Ayoob Files” in which he dissects a self defense shooting, analyzing all details, from the good to the bad.  I wanted to highlight this particular story because this one is a textbook example of concealed carry and self defense, plus it also gives you some philosophy of those of us that believe in responsible and intelligent concealed carry.  The scenarios the anti-gun GOLO members keep setting up, with someone robbing you at gunpoint and you reach for your gun, are not realistic to the thinking gun owner.  True, there are some pro-gun people on GOLO that advocate shooting someone for just about anything, but they are not what I classify as the “thinking” gun owner. 

 

I’ll give a brief summary of the event in the article, but I’ll also provide a link to the article so you can read the details yourself.  I don’t know how long the link will remain active. 

 

A 71 year old retired Marine stops in at a Subway shop to grab a bite to eat.  While he’s there, two armed, disguised men rob the place.  The Marine gives up his wallet, with SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS in it peacefully.  While the Marine has a concealed firearm, he’s not considering using his weapon at this point.  This is important.  Money and material things are not worth killing over, and especially aren’t worth the hassle/expense of going to court to defend yourself against a zealous anti-gun district attorney.  I’ve even read were some that carry concealed will also keep extra money rolled around a matchbook or something that they can toss to someone robbing or hassling them, in hopes that it will pacify them so they will NOT have to draw their weapon.

 

So, the armed robbers now have all the money.  At this point, criminals just interested in some quick cash will usually flee the scene.  But these robbers order him (and maybe the store manager?) to the BACK of the store, into the restroom, and orders him onto the floor.  DANGER SIGNS!!!  All too often this is the warning sign that an execution is about to happen.  It has played out time and time again in other cases where robbers kill their victims.  In other robbery incidents, the bad guys herd them to the back, then shoot them.  The article even mentions a recent one.  The Marine had already made up his mind that this was NOT going to happen to him.  As the Marine pretends to get on the floor, he draws his weapon and begins firing.  In the end, he kills bad guy #1 and wounds bad buy #2.  Had the Marine not been carrying a concealed weapon, more than likely you would not know the finer details of this incident because all the witnesses (i.e. victims) would be dead.

 

The article is a good read because it demonstrates why some of us carry and how it can save lives.  It also will give those of us that do carry some things to think about, like what we carry, how we carry, how we would react, etc.  Again, I wanted to present this article because it is a text book example of concealed carry being used in self defense.

 

The link to the article:

http://fmgpublications.ipaperus.com/FMGPublications/AmericanHandgunner/AHJA09/?page=62 

 

NOTE to anti-gun people:  I don’t block or delete.  I welcome your comments on this blog.  But sadly, there are some pro-gun idiots out here that will turn to personal attacks because they disagree with your anti-gun sentiments.  While I disagree with their methods, I won’t block or delete their posts.  Be warned you may have to weather the storm if you post.

 

PS:  The blog image is an example of my latest acquisition (though not my particular gun).  I plan on replacing the rubber Hogue grips with some custom Delrin ones, to make it slimmer for concealed carry.

 

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Great post. A gun when used properly, kills. Don't use it unless a life is imminently at stake. If you don't get all that, don't get one.

That retired Marine did EXACTLY what you're supposed to do when you're legally carrying.

Good morning Lightfoot.

This is an excellent example of a responsible gun owner. This, I have absolutely no problem with, and actually feel better knowing people like this are armed and among us. My anti-gun sentiments come from yahoos who think they're John Wayne or Dirty Harry and unpleasant personal experiences. So it's not really anti-gun...it's anti-idiot.

I have no problem with knowledgeable and rational people owning or carrying guns.

Great story...with the exception of the others that were "executed" before the ex-marine decided to react. It's really a shame that our laws Do NOT allow for the good guys to be more proactive in cases such as this.

I think it points out the "Rational" train of thought, that "Most" of us "Gun Folks" tend to follow. Also, I had not heard of the Matchbook trick (making mental note)

On another note, did you write Rep. Ross yet concerning the Castle Doctrine bill that she is holding up?

Opps... Did I read the story wrong?? Were the others killed before the marine drew and fired?

“So it's not really anti-gun...it's anti-idiot. “ - Hilikus

Totally understand, which is why I wanted to present this story.

“Did I read the story wrong??” - Trabmansan

I think so. :)

No one but the bad guy died. In fact, I don’t even think they got to fire their weapons! If I’m reading it right, there was only the Marine and the store manager in the place.

Sounds like the guy used his weapon as a last resort....thats how its supposed to work.

"This is important. Money and material things are not worth killing over,"

That statement makes the difference as you pointed out between a responsible gun owner and a "I want to shoot someone" gun owner. Money can be made and jewelry bought but you only get one life.

Yep... I just read the entire article... I was wrong...ONLY the bad guy #1 died and I like the fact that Bad Guy #2, who was wounded, was charged w/ the murder of his buddy.... As it should be! The 2 of them made a choice to attempt to rob and a murder charge is given to the #2 thug, "Frederick Gadson"

I would suggest all those that carry to read the actual article for the details. The Marine did some fine shooting under stress, though he actually is critical of himself. He fired until empty, then couldn’t easily reach his spare magazine, which will give some thought as to how you carry yours, if you carry extra magazines. He also scored a direct hit on bad guy #2, with a .45 caliber, and the guy didn’t go down. This too gives some thought about what you carry. You hear about the caliber wars, but I think this is an example that shows just because it’s a big caliber, doesn’t mean you’re going to knock them off their feet. Shot placement, and simply the fact that you have the ability to shoot something, anything, at bad guys, is always better than having nothing.

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