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spooky thoughts: believe it or not

Published Feb. 24, 2009
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NOTE: image censored so as not to shock or offend GOLO.  Statue is of the god Apollo.

  

I watched a couple of Christian based movies this weekend with my family.  One was “Fireproof”.  Predictable plot and stiff actors, but decent story line and lesson.  The only known actor was Kirk Cameron.  I was intrigued that his character went from not taking any stock in Jesus and prayer to believing and praying.  I wasn’t surprised at the turn of events, but it served as a catalyst to me realizing a missing piece of the puzzle with my conversations with believers.  While I have done my best to convey my feelings, it still highlighted a flawed premise presented by believers.

  

Whether it is the “turn or burn” condemnation of a fire and brimstone preacher, or the “you just have to believe” line from a more sheepish Christian, the underlying principle is the same.  It seems to convey the message that atheists and agnostics are willfully ignoring or disobeying God.  You need to back up one level and realize that these folks don’t think there is a god there in the first place.  I can’t claim you ignored the detour if you never saw the detour signs!

  

What the believers don’t seem to comprehend is that I’m not intentionally disbelieving.  While one can present evidence in order to attempt to convince someone of something, the actual act of believing is still not governed by free will.  Either you believe or you don’t.  You can’t make yourself believe.

  

For example, do you believe you can flap your arms and fly like a bird?  No?  Well, just MAKE yourself believe!  I’ve give you a few seconds …………….. Okay, I’m back.  Do you now believe you can flap your arms and fly like a bird?  No?  Well that’s the equivalent of someone telling me I just have to believe in invisible spirits in the sky.  I just have to accept that Apollo pulls the sun across the sky, or Thor causes thunder by striking his hammer, or Jehovah created man from dust.  I simple do not believe it.  And it’s not a willful disbelief given there is no will in believing.  Either you do or you don’t. I don’t.

 

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Cool. I got nothing but love for ya.

"What the believers don’t seem to comprehend is that I’m not intentionally disbelieving. While one can present evidence in order to attempt to convince someone of something, the actual act of believing is still not governed by free will. Either you believe or you don’t. You can’t make yourself believe."

That is something I have tried to convey more times than I can count. Good blog lightfoot.

why is it when the sculpters made statues like in the pic above, they always made the willy really small. They should have made them look like Peter North or Ron Jeremy. I have spent many hours pondering this question.

I think you just opened a whole can of worms. Although there is an infinitessimal chance that one day you could change you're beliefs. I think that life is a journey that we all take. It is governed by OUR OWN decisions. But, people like you make the journey much more interesting. I can't change you, but I can still like what you have to say. ( I don't know you personally so I can't say wheather or not I like you yet.)

Why do you hate god?

j/k. I've encountered this many times too. Many people think atheists are just like bratty little kids that don't want to listen to their parents. Some can't except that others just don't believe.

“They should have made them look like Peter North or Ron Jeremy. I have spent many hours pondering this question.” - Chevelle Mackaroy

Did the model pose on really cold days?

Bullet, I don't think that you hate God. I think that God does look in your heart. And Lightfoot for you to have so many questions I think that you really want to believe. Do you not know anyone that is a preacher that you can talk to? Some that are more qualified than folks on a blog that can answer your questions?

You do not have to believe in God, but non-believers understand this... when you die, as you travel down that dark tunnel towards the white light, your thoughts are going to be something like " Man I am screwed".

“( I don't know you personally so I can't say wheather or not I like you yet.)” - smalldogsrule

You’d like me. :) I’m an easy going person, follow the golden rule, and have a pretty good sense of humor. I tell interesting stories and jokes. I just don’t believe in spooks. And that topic rarely comes up in everyday discussions.

Ghosts are for real brother. Trust me on this one. They DO exist.

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