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again: 1 timothy 2:8-14

Published Oct. 15, 2008

“I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands without anger or quarreling; also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire but by good deeds, as befits women who profess religion. Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet woman will be saved through bearing children, if she continues in faith and love and holiness, with modesty.”
1 Timothy 2:8-14 

If the New Testament roles for man and woman in marriage are rooted not in sinful pride and not in cultural expectations, but in God's original design for creation, then how would you expect this original design to express itself in the life of the church?  That's what we have before us today in 1 Timothy 2:11-14.  Let's seat ourselves before these unpopular verses and listen for a few minutes, and see if the story they tell is really as unattractive as so many think it is. 

“Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor.” 

I think what we need to do in order to understand the submissiveness in this text is patiently think through the meaning of "silence" ("Let a woman learn in silence") and the meaning of "teaching" ("I do not permit a woman to teach") and the meaning of "authority" ("or to have authority over men"). So let's take these one at time.   

1. "Silence"
First, "silence." Verse 11:  "Let a woman learn in silence."  Notice that the word "silence" is used two other times in nearby verses.  The word for silence here (hesuchia) is used earlier in verse 2 of this chapter (hesuchion). But there it refers to the "quiet" life which all godly people should lead.  "Pray . . . that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way."

This gives you the tone and the extent of the word. It doesn't refer to absolute silence: a "quiet" and peaceable life is not a life of total silence. It's a life untroubled and serene and content. So the silence doesn't seem to be total. It's more like what we would call "quietness."  You can see this especially at the end of verse 12.  The same word is used again. But this time you can tell what Paul has in mind by its opposite. He says,  

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over men, [literally:] but to be silent."

"Not to have authority over men, but to be silent."  In other words this quietness is the opposite of exercising authority over men. "Don't exercise authority over men, instead be silent."   

So what sort of quietness does Paul have in mind? It's the kind of quietness that respects and honors the leadership of the men God has called to oversee the church.  

Verse 11 says that the quietness is "in all submissiveness," and verse 12 says the quietness is the opposite of "authority over men," and so the point is not whether a woman says nothing, but whether she is submissive and whether she supports the authority of the men God has called to oversee the church.

Quietness means not speaking in a way that compromises that authority.  We'll come back in a minute and be more specific about just what this submission is.   

2. "Teaching"
The second thing we need to look at is the reference to teaching in verse 12. How extensive is Paul's prohibition when he says, "I permit no woman to teach"? 

To answer this, one thing we can do is look at other places where Paul and others talk about women teaching. For example in Titus 2:3 he says that the older women are to teach the younger women (at the end of the verse):  

"they are to teach what is good, and so train the younger women to love their husbands and children."

Another example is 2 Timothy 3:14 where Paul tells Timothy to remember from whom he learned the Scriptures. And the persons he has in mind (we can tell from 2 Timothy 1:5) are Eunice and Lois, Timothy's mother and grandmother. (His father was not a believer or even a Jew, Acts 16:3.) 

One other example is Priscilla. It says in Acts 18:26,  

"When Priscilla and Aquila heard Apollos, they took him and expounded to him the way of God more accurately."    

So, it's not likely that Paul is saying in 1 Timothy 2:12 that every kind of teaching is forbidden to women because there are clear examples of them teaching younger women, teaching children, and in some ways teaming up with their husbands to give private instruction when someone is confused or uninformed like Apollos. Those are just some examples. 

Is it possible to generalize, then, about what Paul does have in mind here when he says, "I do not permit a woman to teach"? I think the safest thing to do is let the next phrase guide us.

The following phrase is, "…or exercise authority over men."  

"I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over men."  

Instead of letting the word "teach" mean anything we want it to mean or think it might mean, it's safer to say, it probably means a kind of teaching that somehow relates to authority because teach and exercise authority go together.  So at least one general thing we can say about women teaching is that Paul forbids it when it is part of the exercise of authority over men who have been called by God to lead the church

That leads us to the third question, namely, what is this "authority" referred to in verse 12?   

3. "Authority"
The key that unlocks this door is a very interesting observation. When you read the rest of 1 Timothy about the role of elders in the church, what you find is that the elders had two basic responsibilities: They were to govern, and they were to teach. You can see this in the qualifications of 3:1-7, but the easiest place to see it is in 5:17,  "Let the elders who rule [or govern] well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching." 

Elders rule or govern, and elders teach or preach. Back in Acts 20:28, you may recall, the elders in the church at Ephesus were called by the Holy Spirit and made "overseers" and charged with "pasturing" or feeding the flock, that is, teaching the whole counsel of God.   

I don't think it's coincidental that what Paul says in 1 Timothy 2:12 is that he does not permit a woman to teach and exercise authority over men. He is saying in essence: I do not permit women to fill the office of elder in the church. The elders are charged with the leadership and instruction of the church. That's a summary of their job. So when Paul puts those two things together and says,  "I do not permit a woman to teach or exercise authority,"  the most natural sense is, "I do not permit a woman to assume the office of elder in the church." 

So the authority Paul has in mind in 1 Timothy 2:12 is the authority of elders who have been called by God to service.

And what is that supposed to look like? Well we saw already from Jesus in Luke 22:26 what it's supposed to look like:  

"Let the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the leader as one who serves."  

Paul said in 2 Corinthians 10:8 and 13:10 that God gave him authority in the church not for tearing down or destroying but for building up.  

And Peter said to the elders of the churches (1 Peter 5:3),

"Do not domineer over those in your charge, but be examples to the flock."  

In other words, elder-authority is servant-authority. Elder-leadership is servant-leadership. That's why teaching is at the heart of this calling. Elder-authority leads by persuasion—by teaching—not by coercion or political maneuvering. Elder-authority is always subordinate to biblical texts. It can always be called to account by Scripture. Therefore teaching is the primary instrument of leadership in the church.   

Defining Authority and Submission

I think it would be helpful to step back here and try to do for the concepts of authority and submission in the church what we did for the concepts of headship and submission in the home, namely, give a crisp definition of each. 

"Authority" refers to the divine calling of spiritual, gifted men to take primary responsibility as elders for Christ-like servant-leadership and teaching in the church.   

"Submission" refers to the divine calling of the rest of the church, both men and women, to honor and affirm the leadership of the elders and to be equipped by it for the hundreds and hundreds of various ministries available to men and women in the service of Christ. 

And that last point is very important. For men and women who have a heart to minister—to save souls and heal broken lives and resist evil and meet needs—there are fields of opportunity that are simply endless. God intends for the entire church to be mobilized in ministry, male and female. Nobody is to be at home watching soaps and reruns while the world burns. And God intends to equip and mobilize those saints through a company of spiritual men who take primary responsibility for leadership and teaching in the church.  

Closing

There are many voices today who claim to know a better way to equip and mobilize the men and women of the church for ministry. But I commend to you this morning with all my heart the plain meaning of these verses: 

That manhood and womanhood mesh better in ministry when men take primary responsibility for leadership and teaching in the church.

That manhood and womanhood are better preserved and better nurtured and more fulfilled and more fruitful in this church order than in any other.

I commend this to you for your belief and for your behavior, because 

This is the way the Scriptures teach us to order the church,
And God inspired the Scriptures,
And God is good. 

© Desiring God 



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You can "edit" a blog i think. Just edit an "x" in it and delete the rest.

I did that once and people were commenting on the "X".

Rev...can't delete a Blog I do not think...just mark it private and it gets lost in GOLOland somewhere along the lines *LOL*

Just change the blog status to private and it'll be offline. I don't think you can delete the blog itself.

I really wish that you hadn't taken them down.

rev...i have never been able to delete a blog itself, just the comments.

Ok listen, I was working on this trying to shorten it, and it got saved by accident. Then I tried to delete it to start all over, and my delete button is gone, hence this silly blog.

But hopefully, no one will be able to find anything to argue about with it. ;o)

God bless.

Rev. RB

Both of your blogs was good ones.God bless you.

They took away my delete button to save me from myself

I have seen longer trust me.

Was too long, but won't let me delete. Odd.

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