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what do you call a baby?

Published Jul. 23, 2008

WRAL.com's comment filters would not let me say that if an illegal has a [look at picture] baby they should not get special treatment because other criminals (murders, rapists, etc.) don't stay out of jail just because they have kids and home and don't want to be seperated.

Why filter that word? I've never, ever heard children that illegal immigrants have in hopes that they won't get deported because they now have an American-born baby refered to as anything else. I fully suspect the policy is not to prevent racism but to stifle discusion on an important issue. Ignoring the fact that illegals come over here and have children in order not to get deported does not change the fact that they do it. This term is used everywhere in all media and this is the first time I've seen it filtered.

So what word do I use instead? Is there another term for them at all?



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"But, it doesn't matter, Congress no longer has the will nor ability to clarify this for the diversity-driven courts."

Congress doesn't have the ability to remove the court's jurisdiction over constitutional matters. That power is reserved to them by the Constitution itself. Furthermore, Congress can not pass legislation limiting constitutionally granted rights.

What is interesting is that the specific purpose of that clause was to place the dictates of the Civil Rights Act of 1866 beyond the reach of either the Supreme Court (by ruling that Congress had acted beyond its authority in passing it) or a future Congress from repealing it through a simple majority vote. Had their intention been only to retroactively grant slaves citizenship, the act wouldn't have broadly defined the class as persons "of every race and color."

Perhaps the 14th amendment is too broadly constructed in its wording, but nonetheless, it is the law.

"The determination that you've summarized would make Indians and illegal aliens citizens, when they clearly are not; an unfortunate byproduct of the 1898 Ark ruling."

Incorrect. Native Americans were by law not subject to state or federal jurisdiction, as their situations were viewed to be their own sovereign entities. They were granted citizenship prior to 1924 through a combination of marriage, military service, allotments, treaties or special laws relevant to specific groupings. The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 finally granted them status through US birth, but they were specifically exempted from the automatic grant conferred through the 14th Amendment. Their citizenship is the product of federal legislation, not constitutional grant.

Regarding illegal aliens, yes. Their children born here are US citizens. They, however, are not.

If Mommy or Daddy is already a US citizen, then I think it's just fine and dandy. That's how I got to be one.

There was a contest on the radio this morning on the way to work, answer a question. The prize was a Border Patrol Prize Package, included, among other cool stuff, a Border Patrol t-shirt. How cool is that?! If we all wore one, maybe they'd get the message...

"What determines the correctness of a constitutional interpretation? The justices are the final word on what the verbage in the constitution means, and they've already determined that "subject to the jurisdiction of" includes anyone subject to the authority of the law within the US. Outside of diplomats, that includes just about everybody else." -mogwai

Understanding the ratifiers' intentions for this amendment would determine the correctness of interpretation, much like in the 1884 Elk ruling. The determination that you've summarized would make Indians and illegal aliens citizens, when they clearly are not; an unfortunate byproduct of the 1898 Ark ruling.

But, it doesn't matter, Congress no longer has the will nor ability to clarify this for the diversity-driven courts.

It's amazing how PC these blogs have become. They seem to censor half of the Webster's Dictionary. Fact is "Hanchor babies" do in fact exist, but if we can not discuss them, the media thinks the problem will go away. Wrong, this is not "out of sight, out of mind" Just seems strange to set up an open discussion forum and then dictate what can and can not be written there. If the illegals don't like how we feel and speak about them, the best thing for them to do is leave and go home and then everybody will be happy.

I hate Dora the Explorer because she is an illegal anc hor baby! Why does the liberal media hide all of the crimes by illegals like drug running, identity theft, murder. The mainstream media in Raleigh has recently ignored a triple murder in SF, McDonalds enabling SSN theft, and a major drug stop on I95. Illegals should not be here and they should all go home including the non-Hispanic ones. There are plenty of illegals who are not Hispanic but overstayed their visa's from other parts of the world. Now WRAL is trying to overplay the hate speech garbage! I am tired of paying for their social services and dealing with their crime. We have enough problems as is without being invaded.

I still say fly 'em all to France!

The word "anchor" is the problem? Unbelievable.

"Or, just a correct interpretation of the 14th amendment as written. Somehow, the justices conveniently ignore the phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"."

What determines the correctness of a constitutional interpretation? The justices are the final word on what the verbage in the constitution means, and they've already determined that "subject to the jurisdiction of" includes anyone subject to the authority of the law within the US. Outside of diplomats, that includes just about everybody else.

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