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jesse helms dies
Published Jul 4, 2008Views: 1295
Regardless of how you felt about Jesse's politics, one had to respect he never retreated on his core beliefs, his soul was not for sale...jack
Raleigh, N.C. — Jesse Helms, the firebrand U.S. senator whose outspoken, conservative views polarized North Carolina and U.S. voters for decades, died early Friday, according to John Dodd, president of the Jesse Helms Center.
He was 86.
His cause of death was not released.
Helms served five terms in the U.S. Senate, retiring in 2003 because of his faltering health. During his 30 years in Capitol Hill, the North Carolina Republican became a powerful voice for a conservative movement that was growing both in Congress and across the country, and he used his position to speak out against issues like gay rights, federal funding for the arts and U.S. foreign aid.
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Very true. His staff was outstanding in resolving problems for the ordinary folks of NC.
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July 4, 2008 11:18 a.m.
And I don't need a governor or president to tell me to do so. Nor do I need a flag code to dictate the time period of mourning the loss of an honorable man.
July 4, 2008 11:19 a.m.
He will be missed.
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I do have a conceptual problem with politicians in general. I believe that a politician should vote the way that his constituents think, not the way the politician thinks. Public opinion poles have become a way to determine the opinions of the constituents not so much to determine the way that they vote but to determine what they SAY in public.
With Jessie, I felt like he was going to vote the way he thought, regardless of what anyone else thought. And I you didn’t like that, then you shouldn’t vote for him ....
I don’t think he ever apologized for a “slip of the tongue”. If he said it, you could bet that he really meant it ....
It looks like all the old good ones are going. And, I don’t feel too well myself ....
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July 4, 2008 11:32 a.m.
RIP Jesse and God bless
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July 4, 2008 11:35 a.m.
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Oh, and don't forget his work with the 1960 campaign of I. Beverly Lake, another Democrat segregationist.
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Another thing I find interesting are the news reports of Helms using the term "negro hooligans" to describe some black youth of his day. I believe we currently call them "thugs." Same thing, different term.
July 4, 2008 12:02 p.m.
Oh, and don't forget his work with the 1960 campaign of I. Beverly Lake, another Democrat segregationist."
And this redeems him how? Who cares what party he was working for. The concept of segregation itself is evil at its core, which pretty much defines anyone defending it, especially anyone who defended it as vigorously as he did, as evil too.
I don't believe that, in his heart, he ever changed. He was just enough of a politician to recognize when to change his rhetoric.
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July 4, 2008 12:03 p.m.
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July 4, 2008 12:05 p.m.
LOL, you really are a piece of work.
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Should we take this to mean that you agreed with his stance on segregation?
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with segergation. And it doesn't matter whether it involves segregation based on race, religion, creed, national origin, or sex. It is called freedom of association.
The only time segregation is invalid is when PUBLIC entities involuntarlly segregate based on those characteristics. A black should have no more "right" to sit at the lunch counter at a privately owned business than a white should have to join the Black Panthers.
I have always seen Helms as someone who believed that if blacks and whites wanted to be segregated, then so be it. And he also felt, much like our founders on slavery, that forced integration was not the proper way to go, the time was not right to force the change. That would take an attitude change on the part of the people to mandate that change, not government involvement.
You can't force people's beliefs. And we have seen that over and over again when they try. All it generally does is breed more hostility.
July 4, 2008 12:13 p.m.
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WCNC- You darn right I don't believe he ever changed.
July 4, 2008 12:17 p.m.
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But aren't they lauding him for never changing? (just asking)
Personally? No, I don't believe he ever did. I believe he went to his grave holding the same white supremacist views that he spoke so frequently about on the air (before it became unpopular to do so.) Those will be his sins to answer for to someone else besides me.
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July 4, 2008 12:19 p.m.
No, I don not believe in slavery, that the white man should have involuntarily forced blacks to come here from Africa and work. But I also do not believe that black tribal leaders in Africa should have rounded up those blacks and sold them to the Dutch and Portugese so that they were avialable for use as slaves.
Nor do I beleive that slavery should continue to exist among black populations in Africa to this very day.
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It's a shame when someone dies that they can not be afforded some level of respect, even if you didn't like what they stood for. Shame on the one that are "dancing on his grave"
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