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why i'm not an atheist

Published Jun. 27, 2008

 

I want to start this blog entry by saying this is not attempt to trump or belittle Lightfoot3 for his well written and thought provoking blog on why he is an atheist. In general I tend to stay away from religious based conversations while outside religious circles but when I read Lightfoot3’s blog I was intrigued at how his experience appeared to be the reverse of mine. For that reason I will offer this as a different perspective, not as a debate.  I respect his right to believe as he does and I do not believe in trying to impose my religious views on anyone.

 

I am a Christian but I will not be doing any a proselytizing about my Christian faith or telling how I ended up believing in something I once denounced. I am always willing to share with those who are interested but I do not believe that GOLO is the forum for such things.

 

Lightfoot3 mentioned he grew up in a Christian home, in my case the opposite is true. My parents were and are not religious people and so I had a completely secular upbringing. I never gave much thought to whether there was a God or not except that what little religion I was aware of, mainly my grandparents strict and intolerant brand of Catholicism made we believe I would be better off if there was no God.

 

In the opposite direction of Lightfoot3 I trended from Agnostic/Atheism into a kind of Theism where I was searching, perhaps with a bit of artificial help for something greater than myself. By college I had settled on a kind of Universalism where I had a disdain for Christianity based on what are in some case well earned stereotypes but had an “open mind” to other ideas. I’ll add that my own experience of being preached to taught me that quoting Bible passages or using religious jargon with people who do not believe in it does little more than agitate them.

 

For me my study of science inspired my belief in God rather than turned me away from it. I could not reconcile in my mind that the amazing and diverse world we live in with all of its checks and balances is the result of some random event that happened countless years ago.   That we humans are just an evolved collection of cells that have reached the point that we can even ponder such questions as whether there is a God or not is beyond my ability to comprehend.  In my view science has answered many questions but has hardly scratched the surface in understanding how this all came to be. I believe that for everything science can explain there are many more it cannot. 

 

I cannot prove on paper or on a computer that God exists anymore than someone who does not believe can prove that God does not exist. While I concede that there is horrible suffering, some of it in the name of religion in this world I don’t blame God for that I blame mankind. I see the proof of God in the beautiful and amazing natural world that is around us combined with my personal life experiences.  Ultimately I think belief in God or lack thereof is a question of what a person has faith in.

 

Lightfoot3 also raised some very good questions on why so many cultures have their own god or gods. I can honestly say I don’t have the answer to that question; perhaps the need to worship God or at least something greater is inherent to all men.  

 

Finally, some call it coincidence or even the power of positive thinking but I believe that prayer has worked for me.  Perhaps like Lightfoot3 having been on both sides of this issue has led me to a greater understanding of those on the other side.

 

Thanks for reading and have a wonderful weekend.

 

 

 



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“Can Vishnu save anyone from hello?” - Duke_Blue_Devil_For_Life

YES! Because Vishnu doesn’t get his kicks by throwing people in a lake of fire for eternal torment. Worship Jehovah if you’re into that sort of thing.

Christians believe that the only way to eternal life is to be saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. The Bible, which is the authourity source of Christians, says that there is no way to the Father but by Me. The Bible also says that Christians must go in to the world and teach. It's called The Great Commission. These are the reasons that we believe that our religion is better. Because we believe our authority source to be the true Word of God. True Christians to not try to push their belief 'down your throat'. The reason we talk to you about Christianity is because God has told us that we must tell the world about him. It is part of what being a Christian means.

Hindus continually pray to Vishnu, and Vishnu does miraculous healings for them, so I’d hardly him “dead”. Lightfoot3------Can Vishnu save anyone from hello?

No one by the name of jesus, jesus christ, jesus creustus, jesus ben joseph or any derivation thereof ever died on a cross or on a tree. It did not happen. This is the biggest hoax of all time. The church had and still has a political agenda.

heres the problem with so called christians. I went to my inlaws church this past sunday ( sigh ) southern baptist and everyone of us was dreading it but we did it cause of a special education.

I felt the preacher was to showy and fake, he talked about we want people to ask why are they shiny and tasty, i want some of that ( meaning being a true christian ) then he turned around and bashed every other religion proclaiming OUR GOD was the only way.

Im sitting there thinking okay you moron, that's when I turned my brain off and had a sermon my preacher did on being christlike playing in my head.

That's what people don't like about christians, that preacher made a fool of himself. Point is, you can be a good christian without being hateful and self righteous

good blog

IteachforJesus,

If I was God, the world would be much, MUCH better…and you would agree.

But I haven’t attacked anyone, so I really don’t know what your point is. Do you also claim to know the mind of God? Or think that God’s angels rides with reckless drivers while allowing innocent children to suffer? It’s okay if you do, but don’t be surprised when someone questions that logic if you share it.

You know what Lightfoot, I don't attack you because you feel like you are your own god and don't need another. Because I live in America, I can respect that you have a right to believe as you choose, even if in my opinion, you will find out you have been terribly wrong. Please, don't attack others because they don't agree with you. That makes you just as bad as the Bible thumpers you claim to hate.

I believe on of the biggest problems is that from the birth of our country until the early 1900's Christianity was the most widespread faith of the USA and Biblical moral value and truths were taught in homes and in the one room school houses. When the public school system designed by Dewey (the decimal system guy) and implemented in the US, things started changing. The educational system was based on Hitler's Germany (the idea being to create worker bees) along with the the ideas found in the theory of evolution and of course the influence of Freud. This new system challenged America to her core and the battle lines were drawn.

Today, we need to recognize that we all have a right to our faith (even if our faith is agnosticism or atheism)and we need to not teach in the public educational system any type of faith, moral value, sexual orientation, etc. We need to stick to the basics and let each family choose for themselves in what they teach their children.

"The problems come when one claims that their god is better than someone elses... Or their faith is right and someone elses is wrong." jabrn

I think I know what you are trying to express here, and that is more of a "you must believe my way attitude" of Christians and the Christian belief that the only way to heaven is thru Jesus Christ. I appreciate that one may consider this a problem, however, one would truly not be a believer or have a faith in Christ if one didn't accept all of Christ teachings as absolute truth. Thus, a Christian, does not accept that there is any God but Jehovah God, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Unfortunately, many whom claim to be Christians do not bear the fruit of living by the spirit....run around and try to be moral monitors for others when they need to tend to their own walk with Christ. In other words, it ain't my place nor style to be telling others who and who is not going to hell!

I'm not nearly intellectual enough to join this conversation, however, many miracles have occured in my life that can only be attributed to my God intervening.

BTW - I do respect the freedom to choose

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