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cavemen discovered living in squalor in s. america - compassionate liberals want to leave them that way
Published May 31, 2008Views: 257
One of South America's few remaining uncontacted indigenous tribes has been spotted and photographed on the border between Brazil and Peru. The Brazilian government says it took the images to prove the tribe exists and help protect its land. Stephen Corry, the director of the group - which supports tribal people around the world - said such tribes would "soon be made extinct" if their land was not protected. "This is very important because there are some who doubt their existence."
He described the threats to such tribes and their land as "a monumental crime against the natural world" and "further testimony to the complete irrationality with which we, the 'civilised' ones, treat the world".
Am I missing something? These people are living in the Stone Ages and these pointy-heads think that lifestyle should be "preserved"? Who the hell do they think they are to make that decision? Do they think, given a choice, these people wouldn't leap at a chance for electricty, running water, canned food and, oh I don't know, A LITTLE HYGENE?
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I'm right. Everyone else is wrong.
Where'd yukon go? He's a libertarian - he's got to be with me on this one. YUKON! Where are you!
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:01 p.m.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! OS Aren't you doing the same thing? Assuming you know what is best for them.
GOLO member since February 14, 2008
May 31, 2008 3:01 p.m.
We don't just have a right, we have a duty to let them know what their potential is. We don't have to "give" them anything - except knowledge. They have a right to know there is a better world out there and make their own choice on what to do about it.
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:03 p.m.
Now that made me laugh. Come on the debate is not over yet. Don't start that stuff.
Oh and when Yukon was here he disagreed with you. You might want to call in reinforcements from somewhere else.
GOLO member since February 14, 2008
May 31, 2008 3:04 p.m.
Nope. I'm assuming THEY know what is best for them and allowing them to make that choice.
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:04 p.m.
YUKON WHERE ARE YOU --- HELP A BROTHA OUT...LOL
May 31, 2008 3:04 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:05 p.m.
That's 'cause I hadn't finished 'splaining it to him.
I'll bet he's with me now.
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:05 p.m.
I'm not suggesting we make them the Clampetts. I'm only suggsting we at least promote them to "Fred & Wilma".
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May 31, 2008 3:07 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:09 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:10 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:11 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:14 p.m.
You assume they will be controled by conventional American ideas of wealth. I assume they will marvel at the miracle of a fishing hook or a broadhead arrow.
They can find ways to barter and scratch out a living to obtain what they truly need. Or they can stay where they are and live as they please.
It's their choice.
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:16 p.m.
You apparently forgotten who you are talking too. I often leave out or confuse two or three words. What's a paltry letter here or there?
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May 31, 2008 3:19 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:19 p.m.
http://www.nature.nps.gov/benefitssharing/whatis.cfm
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May 31, 2008 3:19 p.m.
"The ancient Egyptians invented the first disposable tampons made from softened papyrus. The ancient Greeks invented tampons made from lint wrapped around a small piece of wood, recorded in writing by Hippocrates in the fifth century B.C. Other materials used for the first tampons have included: wool, paper, vegetable fibers, sponges, grass, and later cotton. "
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May 31, 2008 3:20 p.m.
I'll do it - I swear I will!
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May 31, 2008 3:20 p.m.
May 31, 2008 3:21 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:22 p.m.
Somebody already beat you to it. LOL
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May 31, 2008 3:23 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:23 p.m.
GOLO member since February 14, 2008
May 31, 2008 3:24 p.m.
That is a good point, but let's look at it another way. Remember the story about the girl in Germany who was kidnapped by her sicko father and imprisoned in a dungeon under the house for 20 years?
She had several children who were born in that room and those children had never seen the outside world.
Why, then, did we allow them out of that room and why did we expose them to a world they have never seen and won't know how to be a part of?
And, what's the difference here?
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:27 p.m.
Seriously, you do not see a difference between that girl's imprisonment and these people's living life without our interference?
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May 31, 2008 3:30 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:31 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:32 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:32 p.m.
Yes. Please tell me the difference. Why didn't we let that family grow up without our interference?
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:32 p.m.
I missed something. You think that you have the right to decide what's best for these people and somehow allowing them to decide for themselves is a "self righteous judgement"?
Help me out with that one.
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May 31, 2008 3:34 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:35 p.m.
So if there had been no law against it, it would have been okay to leave those children to grow up there?
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May 31, 2008 3:35 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:37 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:39 p.m.
Exactly. And you, for whatever reason, are attempting to advocate a different morality for these people than you would for everyone else.
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:40 p.m.
Why do these children have it so bad? Do you think they do not admire their parents or what they do?
May 31, 2008 3:41 p.m.
It would only one guy that kept the children imprisoned. They could have jumped him if they really wanted to get out. Is that rationalization sufficient to make it morally appropriate to allow them to stay in the dungeon?
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May 31, 2008 3:42 p.m.
May 31, 2008 3:42 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:43 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:44 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:44 p.m.
Maybe I should have pointed this out earlier - if we didn't know THEY existed, what makes you think they know WE exist? I'm assuming they don't, and I think the fact that they are pointing bows at a Cessna bolsters that point.
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May 31, 2008 3:45 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:45 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:46 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:46 p.m.
The way the world is going, these people could, if left alone, be the ones to repopulate the world after a nuclear, biological, or natural calamity.
I would vote NOT to do anything beyond letting them know there is another world out there and keeping National Geographic and Discovery away from them.
They are a successful tribe...leave them be. Strange to say, but the studies done (excluding drought conditions, etc.) indicate that ancient tribal people are happier than people living in New York City and that they founder when brought into civilized society.
Let's NOT do for them what modern civilization has done for Native Americans, Eskimos, the Aborigines, Hawaiians, Oceania, etc.
They don't need vaccines being so isolated, but will when exposed. I can see them learning our better cultural ways.
GOLO member since January 20, 2008
May 31, 2008 3:47 p.m.
You are the one imposing your will on them. ANd what's worse: you are advocating a different moral code to apply to a group of ignorant brown people than you would EVER tolerate for white westerners.
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:50 p.m.
So what if you go down there and give your knowledge to these people. They change you think for the better because anything would be better than what they have. Then when they realize what they have lost they curse you because of it.
GOLO member since February 14, 2008
May 31, 2008 3:50 p.m.
Exactly. That is what makes it so surprising and interesting to see who's saying what on this blog.
GOLO member since July 18, 2007
May 31, 2008 3:51 p.m.
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