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cavemen discovered living in squalor in s. america - compassionate liberals want to leave them that way
Published May 31, 2008Views: 247
One of South America's few remaining uncontacted indigenous tribes has been spotted and photographed on the border between Brazil and Peru. The Brazilian government says it took the images to prove the tribe exists and help protect its land. Stephen Corry, the director of the group - which supports tribal people around the world - said such tribes would "soon be made extinct" if their land was not protected. "This is very important because there are some who doubt their existence."
He described the threats to such tribes and their land as "a monumental crime against the natural world" and "further testimony to the complete irrationality with which we, the 'civilised' ones, treat the world".
Am I missing something? These people are living in the Stone Ages and these pointy-heads think that lifestyle should be "preserved"? Who the hell do they think they are to make that decision? Do they think, given a choice, these people wouldn't leap at a chance for electricty, running water, canned food and, oh I don't know, A LITTLE HYGENE?
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GOLO member since July 2, 2007
May 31, 2008 1:35 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 1:39 p.m.
May 31, 2008 1:44 p.m.
These types of tribes have been integrated before - dozens of times. They die when that integration takes place through unregulated contact.
Your problem is you don't want to apply the same standards to them as you would for everyone else. You ASSUME you know what's best for them and give them no choice. You would enslave them and there children to a life of poverty and disease and pat yourself on the back for being "compassionate".
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 1:45 p.m.
Joker you put it best you cannot compare their world to ours.
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May 31, 2008 1:48 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 1:49 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 1:50 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 1:52 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 1:52 p.m.
May 31, 2008 1:52 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 1:53 p.m.
Jack - It's not a matter of "fixing" anything - It's a question of human decency.
It's like a doctor deciding not to tell his patient he has cancer. That's not his choice. The patient has a RIGHT to know. These are human beings - they don't LOSE their human rights just because it will make people can rationalize it to make them feel better about themselves.
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May 31, 2008 1:54 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 1:57 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 1:58 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 1:59 p.m.
For anyone - missionaries, developers, explorers, business capitalists - to enter their world could be as devastating to them as the Spaniards coming with smallpox and venereal diseases for which they had built up immunity.
Bringing 'civilisation' to them would be an act of bio-terror that could wipe out an entire 'nation' of people.
GOLO member since July 15, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:00 p.m.
Hey OS, Buddy, This is quite interesting to me. We HAVE people living not far from these conditions, right here in the good ole US of A! If you live out in the bush alone, or even with a few other families, we have people living just above the stone age. They do now have rifles, but, their existance is determined by their preparedness for winter, their ability to gather food and not much else. They get sick, they will either get better or die. We have MANY people living like this in Alaska. Are they worse off than people living in Raleigh? I do know one thing...when it all goes to poo poo here pretty soon, they are not going to even notice the difference except on the very rare occassion that they might come into town.
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May 31, 2008 2:01 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 2:01 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 2:08 p.m.
Even if some people managed to get the women and children into civilization it would basically wipe out the whole tribe because they would never be able to visit the tribe again without carrying the disease back to them. And once the people are gone, their land is pretty much doomed, if it is not already doomed so that civilization can build more buildings! How civilized is that? :-)
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May 31, 2008 2:08 p.m.
GOLO member since February 14, 2008
May 31, 2008 2:13 p.m.
It would be nice not to have to worry about what flava coffee I want when I go to starbucks.
May 31, 2008 2:14 p.m.
GOLO member since July 18, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:21 p.m.
Oh, and I'm not saying these people shouldn't be allowed to live this way if they so chose - I am saying they have a fundemental RIGHT to make that choice. You all are saying you know what's best for them and taking that right away from them.
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:28 p.m.
None of you have that right.
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:29 p.m.
OS, I respectfully disagree. You cannot take away something which people never had. Furthermore, no one swooped in and saved us. Maybe there is a reason this particular group hasn't evolved/developed/however you'd like to phrase it. There are so many problems with our society that I think it would be presumptious at best to assume that we have all the answers.
GOLO member since July 18, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:33 p.m.
Sue, no offense, but that's the craziest thing I've ever heard you say. How do you "impose" knowledge on someone? You don't think these people would like to have a stainless steel knife or a metal fishing hook? Who are you to keep that from them?
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:35 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 2:35 p.m.
"We hold these truths to be self evident - that ALL men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights."
Sue, you don't hand out the rights. God does. God gives those people the right to pick their own path just as he gives that right to you. It doesn't come from the government or pointy headed liberals. It comes simply from being born human.
Those people have the rights God gave them. You want to deprive them of those rights.
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:37 p.m.
How are you going to find out if you don't ask them?
And of course that acted hostile - they thought the plane was the biggest doggone bird they'd ever seen.
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May 31, 2008 2:39 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 2:40 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 2:42 p.m.
I find it funny that the article calls the people who want them left alone as the Liberals. Isn't usually the Libs that are accused of wanting to run a nanny state where the gov't knows what best for people.
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May 31, 2008 2:46 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 2:48 p.m.
GOLO member since February 14, 2008
May 31, 2008 2:48 p.m.
So why don't you stand back and let God do his job then?
GOLO member since July 18, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:49 p.m.
The pharmaceutical companies might pay for the tribe’s knowledge of botanical cures. All the drug companies are studying folk lore for possible medicines to develop.
GOLO member since July 2, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:50 p.m.
and what if these people do not believe in a Christian God, but have some other structural multi/poly deity system? You gonna make them convert?
Leave them be to lead their own lives.
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May 31, 2008 2:51 p.m.
GOLO member since February 14, 2008
May 31, 2008 2:51 p.m.
God has done his job - he helped us find them.
Now the government is getting in the way.
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May 31, 2008 2:52 p.m.
GOLO member since July 18, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:53 p.m.
God, in this case, is generic. It doesn't matter if they believe in my God or no God - they still have rights.
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May 31, 2008 2:53 p.m.
GOLO member since February 14, 2008
May 31, 2008 2:55 p.m.
The poor in the US do not have a huge body of knowledge about botanicals. The stone age tribe, in this unique area, very well could know of some plants with useful properties.
GOLO member since July 2, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:55 p.m.
Isn't that what they are doing? Deciding what's best for them?
GOLO member since July 17, 2007
May 31, 2008 2:56 p.m.
Daisy, YES!! And assuming we know best is a really dangerous way to think.
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May 31, 2008 2:56 p.m.
May 31, 2008 2:57 p.m.
If the government won't allow contact, aren't they interfering?
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May 31, 2008 2:57 p.m.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!
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May 31, 2008 2:58 p.m.
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May 31, 2008 3:00 p.m.
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