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Published May. 30, 2008

“Alvis Delk Cretaceous Footprint”

http://www.creationevidence.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=24

 

The Creation Evidence Museum is in possession of a set of Cretaceous footprints discovered by archaeologist Alvis Delk of Stephenville, Texas. This fossil of dense Glen Rose limestone consists of a Dinosaur footprint (possibly made by a Trachodon) and an eleven-inch human footprint intruded by the dinosaur print.

Introduction:

In early July, 2000 archaeologist Alvis Delk, assisted by James Bishop (both of Stephenville, Texas), was working in the Cretaceous limestone on the McFall property at the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, Texas and discovered a pristine human footprint intruded by a dinosaur footprint. This discovery was made in the vicinity of McFall I and II Sites where the Creation Evidence Museum team has excavated since the Spring of 1982. The eleven-inch human footprint matches seven other such footprints of the same dimensions in the “Sir George Series,” named in honor of His Excellency Governor General Ratu Sir George Cacobau of Fiji.[1]

Scientific Verification of Footprint Authenticity:

The fossil was transported to a professional laboratory where 800 X-rays were performed in a CT Scan procedure. Laboratory technicians verified compression and distribution features clearly seen in both prints, human and dinosaur. This removes any possibility that the prints were carved or altered.

Importance of Discovery:

Professor James Stewart Monroe, writing in Journal of Geological Education candidly asserted that “Human footprints in geologically ancient strata would indeed call into doubt many conventional geological concepts.”[2] Professor David H. Milne of The Evergreen State College, Olympia, Washington and Professor Steven D. Schafersman of the Department of Geology, Rice University, Houston, Texas made further admissions in writing that “Such an occurrence, if verified, would seriously disrupt conventional interpretations of biological and geological history and would support the doctrines of creationism and catastrophism.”[3]

Professor Steven M. Stanley in The New Evolutionary Timetable opined that “any topsy-turvy sequence of fossils would force us to rethink our theory…As Darwin recognized, a single geographic inconsistency would have nearly the same power of destruction.”[4]

 

[1] Baugh, Carl E., Academic Justification for Voluntary Inclusion of Scientific Creation in Public Classroom Curricula, Doctoral Dissertation, Pacific College of Graduate Studies, Melbourne, Australia and Poplar Bluff, Missouri, USA, Fall 1989, p. 196

[2] Monroe, James Stewart, Journal of Geological Education, “Creationism, Human Footprints, and Flood Geology”, V.35, p.93

[3] Milne, David H., and Schafersman, Steven D., Journal of Geological Education, 1983, V.31, p.111

[4] Stanley, Steven M., The New Evolutionary Timetable, 1981, p. 171



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"So that leaves the question.... what's the point of any existence at all?" - mrkagain

Therein lie entire libraries of philosophical literature.

You may not believe it, but having meaning in your life isn't really dependent on having an eternal existence after this one. Some look forward to departing this 'vale of tears' in hopes of a heavenly paradise they can see in the fertile meadows of their imagination. They miss the point, and miss their chance to be happy right here, right now.

God, as I understand Him, is eternal and timeless. We, are on the other hand, are so earth bound and body conscious we cannot get our minds around that.

I saw someone pondering on another board yesterday about how we humans think we're so important and feel this great need to leave aome sort of mark, when in fact we're such a minute speck in time and space as to be totally unnoticable and irrelevant. How right she was. So that leaves the question.... what's the point of any existence at all? I don't buy into existentialism...... so I choose to believe the Bible. Lord I believe - help mine unbelief.

We're all just specks looking for answers, as was Pilgrim in "Pilgrim's Progress."

So if I'm not supposed to take Genesis word for word, what else shouldn't I be taking literally? Hmmm.... - Flashlight

Yep, one of my favorite games when I was a kid.

"Connect The Dots"

Verses three through five describe day and night, and it had a morning and an evening, and it was called the FIRST DAY. It’s a day, not 4.5 billion years.

“A non-literal interpretation of Genesis is a FAR more logical position...” – mentor

Personally, I think a more logical position is that most of the bible should be interpreted in a non-literal way, especially the god and supernatural parts. There is some true history in it, just like in any story, but for the most part it’s fiction.

Genesis tells us WHY God made the universe and all that is in it.

It most certainly doesn't tell us HOW (in terms of mechanics) other than he spoke and it was so.

But, you can't stop a 'true believer' from ignoring empirical scientific evidence.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna go ask God why the woodpeckers didn't sink the ark.

It was not until the fourth day that God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night.."

The obvious explanation is that, without a way keep track of time, God worked for 4.5 billion years in the first three days until he realized that he needed a way to tell when it was quittin time for the day.

Speaking of which, have a great weekend!

So if I'm not supposed to take Genesis word for word, what else shouldn't I be taking literally? Hmmm....

It just tickle me how Christians tell the creation story, it is debunked as a lie and fairytales. Then numerous pieces of evidence show something contradicting to hypothesis made by scientist, it is debunked as a lie and fairytales. Just admit that there is no amount of anything that could ever change your mind to think that scientist chose the wrong ingredients for the start of earth and mankind. Face it, unless they can prove some crackpot hand carved this, there is only one way the human footprint could have been compromised by the dino print, it had to be there first.

"Ergo - I have heard the theory offered that between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 existed a gap in time which could have occupied untold millions of years." - mrkagain

If one accepts that Genesis is not meant to be interpreted literally. (to me a very SAFE assumption) then you can absolutely integrate observed timetables with this story. Most Christians I know (including myself when I was a believer) believed Genesis to be "an inspired poem" to explain creation ideas to early peoples. The most important takeaway from the more liberal reading of Genesis would simply be that "God created everything" The Noah story was a previously told cultural legend...the Tower of Babel story was to explain the multiplicity of languages encountered, etc. A non-literal interpretation of Genesis is a FAR more logical position for a believer, in the face of observed realities.

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