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who's to blame for $4 gas

Published May. 20, 2008

Probably the most comprehensive yet simple to understand history of how we got to the highest gas prices in our nation's history (and a very interesting read):

 

http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/20/news/economy/gas_price_history/index.htm?cnn=yes



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Global demand certainly isn't going anywhere, if not increasing. I'm not arguing that conservation alone is going to somehow reduce global demand to take us back to the glory days of $.99 gasoline and trucks that require a ladder to board in every driveway.

High gasoline prices are here to stay. We can change how we move from one place to another, or we can just suck it up and absorb the extra cost it takes to fill the gas tank. I won't disagree with 40 years or so of oil left, but it's also important to consider that oil gives us many products besides fuel for our various modes of transportation.

(Oops - I spotted a rounding error in my math: it would be 6 cents per gallon of gas, not 5.)

flashlight - You assume stagnant technology. By all accounts we have AT LEAST 40 years of recoverable oil in the ground right now, and several times that in "unrecoverable" oil. Technology will continue to change. There is no need to starve ourselves now out of fear for the future.

Besides, how much do you realistically think we can reduce our demand? 10%? 15%? That's 2-3 million barrels per day, which is a drop in the global bucket. That's about a 2% reduction in the global market. Using straight math, (and assuming GLOBAL demand would stay stagnant, which it won't) you could expect the cost of a barrel of oil to decrease by about $2.50 per barrel. That's a decrease of 5 cents per gallong of gas.

Woopie.

"The United States continued unchallenged as the world’s single largest oil-consuming nation in 2007, using almost one fourth of the global total at a rate of 20.7 million barrels daily"

Given three-fourths of global consumption is beyond our control, probably not much. Reducing consumption on our part reduces our dependency on foreign oil. "Drill more, Refine more" only delays the inevitable. Is delaying the inevitable a good long term solution?

At $128 per barrel, the cost TO THE PRODUCER is $3.05 per gallon. Add to that the .43 cents you pay in taxes and the cost per gallon of gasoline is a minimum of $3.48 WITH OUT factoring in shipping, refining, employee pay, corporate taxes or even - gasp - profit.

China increased its petroleum consumption by 5.5 percent in 2007, up from 7.3 million barrels per day in 2006 to 7.7 million barrels.6 It now accounts for nearly 9 percent of the world’s total oil use.7 Over the past decade China has nearly doubled its oil consumption, and the share of global oil used by all nations that do not belong to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) has increased from 37 percent in 1997 to almost 43 percent in 2007.8 Other top consumers in 2007 were OECD-Europe at 15.4 million barrels and Japan at 5 million barrels daily.9 (See Figure 2.) - worldwatch.org

Our demand was about 20 million per day during this period. How much do you think we can decrease that and have a dramatic effect on the world market?

SOB - As I've pointed out before, refining capacity is not the major contributing factor to high gas prices. You can not expect to be refining oil that cost $128 per barrel and have cheap gas, no matter what the refining capacity is. (Although I agree whole heartedly that we need to build more refineries. And, since you don't want to place blame I'll ask you - why aren't we building them?)

Who's to blame? Us, because we keep burning the stuff! Not to mention the fact that we elect leaders who have absolutely no interest in changing the status quo. The biggest issue impacting our national security is not terrorism, not a nuclear-armed Iran, not a newly belligerent Russia - it's the fact that we are utterly dependent on petroleum products produced in large part by dirtbag regimes (some of which we continue to pretend are actually allies)

"Of course, they never mention that regular unleaded was $1.46 a gallon (nat'l average) when Bush took office with a GOP majority in congress for 6 years. "

Smorg: This was your quote; you passed blame and pointed fingers not I. Let’s not get confused with our own words.

Smoke, I'm not blaming anyone. I just noted that no matter what the CAUSE of the gas prices, in the realm of pundits and bloggers it's the OTHER Party's Fault.

That might make one feel better by being able to place blame, but it solves NOTHING.

What we need are solutions, not finger pointing.

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