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Published May. 15, 2008

The California Supreme Court struck down the state's ban on same-sex marriage Thursday, saying sexual orientation, like race or gender, "does not constitute a legitimate basis upon which to deny or withhold legal rights."

In a 4-3 120-page ruling issue, the justices wrote that "responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation."

"We therefore conclude that in view of the substance and significance of the fundamental constitutional right to form a family relationship, the California Constitution properly must be interpreted to guarantee this basic civil right to all Californians, whether gay or heterosexual, and to same-sex couples as well as to opposite-sex couples," Chief Justice Ronald George wrote for the majority.

The ruling takes affect in 30 days.

I admit to having been taken off guard by this. Given the makeup of the court, it wasn't what I'd been expecting. Go figure ...

It's a long ruling, but if you're the interested sort, you can read the full text of the ruling HERE

 



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"So the essense of this ruling is that gay marriages are just as legal as traditional marriages, so in 30 days, gay couples will be allowed to get legally married in California? Kinda by default?"

The essence of the ruling is that the laws prohibiting gay marriage are unconstitutional, and therefore there is no basis in law for denying them access to marriage. So yes, in 30 days, barring a stay, gays will be able to marry in California.

So the essense of this ruling is that gay marriages are just as legal as traditional marriages, so in 30 days, gay couples will be allowed to get legally married in California? Kinda by default?

As someone getting ready to go through a divorce I'm against ALL marriage - gay straight whatever! lol - wow am I bitter or what?!

"Where the state gets involved in it, however, it isn't ok any longer."

They could try to take it up the food chain, or push for a constitutional amendment. I hope they do one or the other. My take is, because traditionally marriage has been between a man and a woman, it should remain as such. However, I also think they should have provided a means of same sex couples to be recognized by the state, and receive both the good and bad legal benefits as married men and women do. Generally the term I have heard used is a Civil Union. Perhaps that is splitting hairs, but I think getting more states to go along with that would be far easier and would be more broadly accepted.

I wouldnt expect any different from California...but hold your breathe until NC does this. :)

Well...correct me if I am wrong, but the separation of church and state has passed...so it is still sticking it's behind in religious business?

"I'm sorry all but marriage is suppose to be a covenant between a man and a woman. I believe maariage was ordained by God. You can call this a religious belief if you like but It's not about religion, It's about whats right and wrong. I believe giving people the right to have same sex marriage demeans the whole idea of what it is supposed to be about. Husband wife,children. If this offends some, I apologize."

And as so far as it relates to a church sanctifying the union, it's perfectly ok for it to remain that way forever.

Where the state gets involved in it, however, it isn't ok any longer.

""I admit to having been taken off guard by this. Given the makeup of the court, it wasn't what I'd been expecting. Go figure"

Now you can vote for McCain ; )"

It wasn't what I'd been expecting because the majority of the justices on that court were appointed by Republicans. I expected them to find some way to prevent it.

No way. I can't give him my vote, sorry.

mojo...well said.

I'm sorry all but marriage is suppose to be a covenant between a man and a woman. I believe maariage was ordained by God. You can call this a religious belief if you like but It's not about religion, It's about whats right and wrong. I believe giving people the right to have same sex marriage demeans the whole idea of what it is supposed to be about. Husband wife,children. If this offends some, I apologize.

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