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Published May. 13, 2008

Let me say first of all that my intention in writing this is neither to inflame tensions nor to turn Dems against one another. It's simply, and solely, to take an objective look at the electoral situation going into November, nothing more. I ask that you approach it from that vantage point. 

During an interview last week, Hillary Clinton pretty much said the unspeakable thing that's been looming in the corner for much of this primary cycle. In explaining why she continues to campaign for the Democratic nomination in the face of what seems an insurmountable lead by Barack Obama, Clinton opined that his support among white voters is weak.

This would be troubling, and a seeming cheap shot on the basis of race, if the numbers didn't quietly substantiate her allegation. Recent polls found that 53% of whites who have not completed college viewed Obama unfavorably.

I examined the numbers for myself, and they are troubling. Of the 29 Democratic primaries since New Hampshire on Jan 8th, Obama has won 15. Sounds good. Of those 29, he pulled a majority white vote in just 5 out of 29.

In Indiana, a state in his own backyard that he narrowly lost to Clinton, he managed just 40% of the white vote. In North Carolina, the numbers are even more troubling at just 37%. His victories in every state where he's failed to carry a white majority, in every one of them, have been solely attributable to overwhelming support among black voters. 

While that's great news for him in the micro, it exposes a fundamental weakness in his campaign that should have Dems thinking hard about how to play this hand.  Obama supporters believe that he will garner much more support among white voters in the general election. I'm inclined to believe that will be tougher to achieve that they think it is. For the diversity minded me, that's a sad realization to come to. For the cold hard reality minded me, it's a serious & damning weakness going into an important election. 

Consider history: Tom Bradley ran against George Deukmejian for governor of California in 1982, and a month before the election was polling 10% to 13% ahead of Deukmejian. Deukmejian's campaign manager suggested that the margin wasn't what it appeared to be, as whites who were inclined to ile to a pollster, so as not to appear racist, wouldn't have the same problem in the privacy of a voting booth. He was correct. Going into the election with a 7% polling advantage, Bradley lost the election. One of the primary reasons was the white voters, 17% of them, who admitted to exit pollsters after voting that they simply hadn't been able to bring themselves to vote for a black man. 

Douglas Wilder, going into the 1989 Virginia gubernatorial election with a commanding 13% lead, saw that lead evaporate to less than a 1% margin of victory on election day. The reason? You can guess.  

Likewise for David Dinkins running for mayor of NYC. A comfortable lead over Guiliani disintegrated to a less than 2% margin of victory, and this for a Democrat running in a historically Democratic stronghold. The reason why isn't difficult to find. It's written all over the exit polling. 

So, while she might have said something distasteful, I fear that she's accurate as well, and the numbers aren't pretty. We'll have to see if they're enough to swing the election to McCain in November.

And I'm pretty sure, unfortunately, that they will ... 



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Today my pledge is - I OFFICIALLY REFUSE TO BE PULLED INTO A CONVERSATION SUCH AS THIS!

With what this country has to offer, it is hard pressed to think that a canidate can be elected while running on a poor old me platform. Mainstream voters (working people) will never go for it. The pitty pot is just what it is.

Whites are not primarily voting for Obama because he is black. They are not voting for him because he is a very liberal left winger. This country is still middle-right, no matter how the media spins it. Ultra-liberal candidates get trounced in the general election, they have for years, and this year is no exception. People will hold their noses and vote middle-right or middle left, but they WILL NOT vote a far lefty. That has more to do with it than race, IMO.

I guess the naive part of me wants/ likes to think that it is not necessarily a race issue. Asking "why can't it just be ok that a white person not vote for Obama because of all the issues of the people he surrounds himself with and because of his extreme left view points we may not agree with".

I have no doubt in my mind that a good portion of blacks will vote for Obama because he's black and for no other reason, there are some who have legitamate reasons for doing the same. I've heard blacks give some really rediculous reasons (ex: he's a mixed breed

Well, I know that here in NC, I am one of "few" white women who will not vote for Hillary Clinton. I did vote for Barack Obama because I believe he has what this country needs. My husband says that he won't win because "certain" people can't bring themselves to vote for a black man. I disagree and think that many will change their mind once they realize that if McCain gets it, we will have a 3rd term of G.W. Bush.

Still on the top ten... Gotta love being off regular business hours.

Anyway, as McCain seems to take a further right wing turn, I can see some of his independent support dry up. After all, he's got to get his base rallied to make sure enough Republicans actually show up on election day.

Somehow, the Dems seem determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

What a true statement!! I just cannot believe how good Ron Paul looks now.

With Hitlery and ObamaJama the key factors splitting their voters are age, income, and gender, as well as combinations of those. The women democrats 30 and over, income 70+ strongly support Hillary. The college age, both genders, and or lower income, swing to Obama. Undecided when compared if the election were held it was close to a split when Hilary and McCain. When it was Obama, McCain had a greater percentage of the SURVEY results.

Coming from the right, I'd like to see Obama get the nod so McCain gets the win come national election time.

...after Katrina, that's not really a surprise. Brownie did a heck uva job for the administration. ....

Interesting development just in: Dems have won a special election in Mississippi for a Congressional seat that Republicans have held since 1994.

We won in Mississippi??

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