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Published May. 13, 2008

"You know it is hard to punish your kids now adays because of the fear it will be looked at as abuse! "  This was a comment on an earlier blog about the 9 year old with the knife. I know there was another blog about excuses for behavior.  But this quote struck me.  We hear that alot.  Parents don't/can't punish their child because someone will call child abuse on them.  How many of you believe this?  I find it a little hard to swallow.  I don't have any trouble discipining my three children, whether it be in public or private.  How will a child know what behavior is acceptable if we let them get away with anything and everything?  I think we do that with our adult children and our friends and family and coworkers, etc.  Why are we so afraid to say 'that behavior is unacceptable'?  don't give me the standard answer.  It's not because people WILL hit you if you say something to them.  It's that you've been TOLD they will hit you.  As long as we aren't willing to stand up for what's right and perhaps take a little flack for it, people like this 9 year old....and his poor parents...will continue to be responsible for the direction our society is heading. 



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There IS a big difference of spanking a child and beating one. Sometimes a child needs to be shown why something is wrong or unsafe and what could happen. Other times, they know they did wrong and should know they will be spanked. I hate to see a child throwing a temper tantrum in a store and parents that won't or don't know how to do something about it. I told my daughter when she was a small toddler, (in a whispered voice) if she didn't stop throwing a tantrum right then, that I would pull her pants down and bust her rear end right there in the store. Anytime after that, all I had to do was give her "the look" I never had a problem with her in any store. She will be an elementary teacher soon. We joke now that once she told me "that's child abuse and I don't have to take it" I just told her I'd show her abuse! We still laugh. There is a difference but children need to know limits and consequences.

i discipline my kids in public, I get more praise then dirty looks. My kids know that if I warn them and tell them if they misbehave or throw a tantrum at the park, we leave, NO 2nd chances and if they do one of those things, I leave with them and THEY RARELY misbehave at the park Same at the store, they are usually pretty good but by chance they start acting up, we leave, if my hubby is with me, one of us takes them to the car, PERIOD.

IF someone calls the cops on me and im arrested, im going to tell the judge, I can discipline now or you can be sentencing them for crimes in 10 yrs, YOUR Choice. There is a difference between beating and disciplining. I used to watch this little girl starting when she was 3 and now shes almost 5,she's a little you know what cause her mother is to lazy to discipline her.Ive had her in time outs at least 20 times her first 6 months here and her mother would be surprised when her own kid would apologize for doing something wrong,that really blew

When I got too big for the belt, my mom used her fist, worked everytime. She slapped the fire out of me when I was 18.

"Parents don't/can't punish their child because someone will call child abuse on them."

I don't believe in punishment, I believe in discipline - and there is a difference. Discipline is to teach, punishment is to hurt.

I was a nanny for over 10 years and the best forms of discipline I found was reward and restriction. The children were praised highly for appropriate behavior and they lost toys or priviledges for inappropriate behavior. They ranged in age from 6 weeks to 4 years, and I could take them anywhere without fear of embarrassment, although with infants, you have to plan things around their naps and wakeful periods.

With regard to corporal punishment, listen: if you're spanking your child somewhere other than their bum or perhaps hand, if you're spanking them when you're angry or if you hit them more than once, CAUTION - you may be abusing.

And a pop on the bum once in a while does no harm and certainly redirects inappropriate behavior.

God bless.

Rev. RB

good for you, strolling. I think our children should still be a little fearful of us, even if they're bigger.

There is a big difference between discipline and abuse. My own kids, I reserved spankings for serious offenses, for example my son at five was playing with matches out in the yard. For lesser offenses we generally took away something they liked or took away something they wanted to do. I never had to spank either child very often. When I did, it was not a beating and left no bruises. But growing up the children understood who the adults were in the house and who the children were. One of the things I did not tolerate was them giving any lip to their mother. So they are young adults now. One has a child and the other is still in college. They both are only slightly demented.

Smorg, I agree. My point is that we've accepted the idea that we will be turned in for child abuse if we discipline our children. My children rarely if ever get a spanking, but they are well behaved children. I have also educated myself about ways to instill discipline into children...kind of a 'kid-whisperer' approach. However, I never lose sight that I am the parent and what I say goes. I think some parents don't parent because they're lazy and just don't really know what to do. Beating your child does not a well-behaved child make.

law i dont cotton much...hurt my child and i will go right after you...but his punk mouth aint running to me...not one minute...he is 25 now....6' 4" and i still aint taking no carp off him.

When I was a kid, we got 'spankings'. I was always afraid of Mr. Cleaver on "Leave It To Beaver" because Wally was always telling 'the Beav' that "Dad will HIT you for that". The mental image wasn't of a spanking.

More on topic, I think most folks know the difference between a 'spanking' and 'hitting' a child in uncontrolled violence.

But, that judgment is in the eye of the beholder most times.

o prayer girl...she taught you to pray lol....look when my mother spanked me..she beat the carp outta me...sure it would be abuse by todays standards but then look at todays standards...

KIDS SHOULD BE AFFRAID OF PARENTS...ITS LIKE TRAINING A DOG....HALF A/ DISCIPLINE GETS YOU HALF A/ TRAINING.

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