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mayor kicks marines out of toledo

Published Feb 9, 2008
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Just another example of actions that I see as HOSTILE toward our troops - even though many say that everyone supports the troops - just not the war... 

By Darsha Philips
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2008 at 2:05 p.m.

TOLEDO, OH -- Mayor Carty Finkbeiner on Friday ordered some 200 members of Company A, 1st Battalion, 24th Marines from Grand Rapids, Michigan, out of Toledo just before the unit was suppose to start a weekend of urban warfare training downtown.

The mayor’s spokesperson Brian Schwartz said, “the mayor asked them to leave because they frighten people. He did not want them practicing and drilling in a highly visible area."

Toledo police said they knew about the training and had approved the unit’s use of the Madison Building and the Promenade Park area.   The training was scheduled to start Friday afternoon and last until Sunday.   Police said the unit’s presence would have a minimal impact on the city.   Police issued a press release earlier in the week saying the marines would be wearing green camouflage uniforms, operate military vehicles, carry rifles, perform foot patrols, and fire blank ammunitiion during the exercise.

Schwartz said there was a breakdown in communication between police and the Finkbeiner administration that led to the mayor’s action.

“The marines drilled here three times during the Ford administration and once under the Finkbeiner administration.  After the last visit, the mayor told then police chief Jack Smith, that he did not want the marines back.   Smith failed to inform the current police administration of the mayor’s feelings,” Schwartz said.

NBC24 spoke to Jack Smith  who recalled that after the marines last visit, he and the mayor had a heated exchange about  the training.

“He told me he did not want them, as he put it, “playing war in Toledo’”, Smith recalled.  I told him, as a former marine, “that  if one young marine’s life is saved because of training he or she received in Toledo, Ohio, then it was worth the inconvenience.”

Smith said if the mayor objected, then he should have been the one to convey those feelings to police.  Smith took his run-in with the mayor as an objection to that last visit, and not future training in Toledo. 

As a result, the Toledo police went ahead, granting approval to the 1-24th Marines to conduct the routine exercise.  The police notified members of the Finkbeiner administration, who were not aware that the mayor objected to unit’s training in Toledo.

When the mayor found out, he sent a member of his staff to tell marines they could not conduct urban operations in Toledo.

The unit was notified about 3:30 p.m. after an advance team arrived in Toledo.   Five buses carrying some 200 marines traveled four hours from Grand Rapids, only to find out the training had been shot down.

The unit briefly stopped at a another 1-24th marine base in Perryburg Township, then returned back to Grand Rapids where training was expected to be held this weekend.

A spokesperson for the marines said they were disappointed by the mayor’s decision especially after the city had been so helpful in the past.





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Maybe if they have riots or a terror attack in Toledo someday, the Mayor will feel differently.

i agree with jack, if some kind of catastrophe happens they don't hesitate to call in the troops then do they?

How awful!! I agree with Jack, Toledo may regret this decision

Screw Toledo! What an idiot... I am so sick of these self-righteous elitist fools on the far left...

hold up here....i wonder what happened last time the marines used the city for training....i wonder why the mayor didnt want them back...i think most likely there is more to this story ..than he didnt like them playing war...sounds like there was a failure to communicate between the mayors office and the police. I will be interested to see how the voters of this city react...after all the mayor is an elected offical and is suppose to represent the will of the people. Did the marines or police propose to close this section off for the exercises? I think there are a lot of unanswered questions and yet I like the way the villagers got out the pitchforks and torches ...and are looking for a hanging...

and before yall put them blinders on about all marines being heros etc...remember we are still searching for a marine who killed another marine. Stop putting people on a golden stand because of their careers..they are still simply people.

bones, somehow I figure you don't get it. The right you have to spout your BS today is because of these HEROES! What part of that don't you get?

memonster, if the marines did not do what they do in war, the average troop or the civilians would do whatever would be needed to stop an invading army. Marines are usually just kids that have a complex that needs to be addressed, like wanting to kill something, or they can not find work in the private sector, or they are weak-minded enough to listen to a recruiter. They are not heoroes because they joined the marines, anybody can join a branch of the military. Get off your high horse. They are doing nothing more than having the honor to serve the country and the people of this country

The headline is sensationalized. He refused to let them have their training exercise downtown, he didn't kick them out. Isn't Berkley, CA the town thats wanting the Marines kicked out. Maybe the citizens got scared last time they were there.

These guys have to train in case the unthinkable happens and they have to defend our urban cities. They can come to Fayetteville, we are used to hearing the loud booms and seeing military vehicles and camo :)

Daisy - where do you get your information that he didn't kick them out? That conflicts with every other report on the web. They had trained there several times in the past.From the mayor's own spokesperson - “the mayor asked them to leave (asked them to LEAVE) because they frighten people. He did not want them practicing and drilling in a highly visible area." If a battalion shows up for training exercises and the mayor asks them to leave - he's NOT giving them the keys to the city! and denverbob - the "average citizen" wouldn't know WHAT to do to protect themselves - they would go have a double-latte at Starbucks. Bones, you once again show your true colors-jumping to YOUR OWN conclusions, as usual, to the EXTREME liberal left. Yes, they had held these exercises before-provided critical training for them in their fight in Fallujah. Why don't you just admit YOUR true leanings, come out from the shadows and be proud of your leftist ideals..

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