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are you taking the drought seriously? wral’s david crabtree wants to know

Published Oct 15, 2007
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Gov. Mike Easley has called for further cutbacks in water consumption by every North Carolina resident to conserve limited water supplies that, he said, will likely continue to shrink in the coming months. He stopped short of declaring an emergency but said that could happen if people don’t begin to be serious about water conservation.

We want to hear from you. Have you cut back water usage? If so, how? If not, why?

Would you seriously consider shorter showers? Have you thought of buying a rain barrel? Shaving with a minimum of water? Brushing your teeth with a minimum of water? 

Should well water, from the water table, be banned from irrigating lawns? How concerned are you that water could be rationed by spring?

David used many of your comments in a story he produced over the weekend.  Thank you for your feedback.

 

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I'll conserve more when Meeker and his buddies put a stop to unchecked growth in this area. Does he really think that the people moving into this unnecessary oversized over-expensive McMansions aren't going to use water? What a complete idiot. Stop the growth temporarily. Build more reservoirs, wait for the rain to fill them and in two or three years the growth can start again but in a more regulated controllable manor. We are all suffering because of Meeker's incompetence.

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Stage 2 water restrictions go into effect on 2/15. On behalf of those of us who have always conserved water, who have spoken out publicly about managing growth in Raleigh more effectively, and who have said years ago that the Raleigh water supply WILL be over-stressed one day, I say, screw the restrictions...let Falls Lake dry up!!! Then, and maybe only then, will our city officials get it!!!!

Flush twice every time!!!

Why is Pepsi still bottling Aquafina from Falls Lake? Because they are Raleigh's largest municipal water customer! Money talks and it's more important for our water to be used for BOTTLED WATER than our own citizens. Tremendous savings from shutting off the spigot to Pepsi. This is outrageous.

I'm waiting for people in Raleigh to wake up and start holding their elected officials accountable. There is no "drought", there is a serious lack of water however. Let's not confuse the two. RDU has reported 80% normal rainfall over the past 12 months and something like 105% over the past 24 months. Wake up people, that is not a drought. The problems is Falls Lake doesn't hold enough water to support the population growth that's taken place over the last few years. Does anyone think that an extra 9 inches of rain over the last 12 months would put us in different conditions.

The local officials better start figuring out a way to dig a bigger hole in Falls Lake, siphoning water from Kerr Lake or putting a stop to new home building. But enough with this drought mumbo-jumbo, it's getting old.

FYI, Phoenix (6th largest metropolis in US) has an average anual rainfall of 8.4 inches. Some 26 inches less or 6% that of Raleigh's over the last 12 months.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

tbourdon....right on!!!! This forum has included commentary from people who say we should pray for rain and it will come, people who say "it's important to conserve", people who have said "don't flush every time"...and so on and so forth.

tbourdon is exactly right; our city officials, present and past, have failed miserably at managing growth effectively. THAT IS THE ONLY PROBLEM HERE!!!!

Falls Lake is a pond when one looks at the demand placed upon it...this is not rocket science...the population grows and grows and grows without control...Falls Lake remains the same.

It is time our city officials do some serious analysis on future growth predictions and couple that very closely with an assessment of just how much water is needed. THEN, ACT ON IT.

Stop with the drought rhetoric and make some smart decisions!!!

I am in Cary. I see the lake levels vs. normal on the wral web site. I find it interesting that Falls Lake is the only one that is drastically down on water. Why? Aren't the other lakes equally effected by the "drought"? Jordon Lake (Cary/Morrisville Water source) is almost back to normal, and will probably be over normal by tomorrow. I think this blog has a real point that the problem is not the drought, but over use of Fall's Lake by the Raleigh Water system. Mandatory year round restrictions are in order, moratorium on new building, and they need to address how to get more water before building more.

I think this would also help the school system with it's explosive growth. No new houses = no fewer new students?

Two problems solved at the same time.

I think 'radical' and 'tbourdon' have it exactly right...the city of Raleigh bonehead officials have simply been playing on the fears of the citizenry by talking drought, drought, drought. The reality is that they have completely failed in managing the city of Raleigh's water public resource. They have failed as stewards of the public good and should be held accountable.

Is it true that Pepsi uses Falls Lake for their water bottling of Aquafina? If so, it seems that we are paying twice for something that should be ours to begin with...water. I will add that brand to my "do-not buy" list. We did the same thing in Michigan with Ice Mountain bottled water. They were "draining" the lake at an alarming rate.

This has been in the offering for a long time and the City still encouraged active business and residenital growth despite lagging road and school systems. I'm not a big fan of moratoriums but if the shoe fits, etc. I am somewhat fortunate in that I work out of state three weeks a month so I'm certainly holding up my end on water consumption but not a recommended solution to others! The City needs to wake up there are other issues than schools.

I'm a landscaper & I WILL continue to use water however I want as long as these government jerks let growth run rampant. Small businesses like mine are being targeted unfairly as the water my business uses in a year might amount to 100 or less gallons. Lets penalize the little guys so the rich and big corporations can use all the water, no, I won't participate in this.Unmanaged growth is the ENTIRE reason Falls Lake is low, I hope to see it turn to dust!

everything will work out in the wash...

I haven't showered in weeks; not even my dogs come near me. I brush my teeth once a week. I don't wash my clothes anymore.

I wonder how willing the folks moving into the Soleil center will be in conserving...money talks in Raleigh...above all else.

Raleigh's mayor and city council should be tarred and feathered. Period.

I put in rain barrels way early when everyone else still had automatic sprinklers running in the rain, I used them on a pump to run sprinklers/hoses for irrigation when we needed it and now for the occasional really dirty car wash. It takes 5 minutes for the hot water to reach my shower, so not much I can do there. But, frankly, I can't really take this too seriously, because if it had been serious we would have gone to stage 2 a long time ago. Up until fairly recently, we still allowed the washing of cars from drinking water, "as long as it was only at the weekend - duh - when do you wash your car?". Sorry, but showing up at the end and trying to make it a big problem doesn't cut it. You have to budget all year long and because of special interests etc... we didn't.

oh and surcharges won't work. The people with money will just pay them, like speeding fines. The best approach is to encourage people to use less water, by DECREASING the cost per gallon if less than a certain threshold is used - that would also help those people that are trying to make ends meet.

Tell me why, that over the course of the last several months, no attempts were made to deepen Falls Lake by dredging or bulldozing those lake bottom areas that have been exposed. In spite of perhaps some environmental concerns, it seems to me that this would be a very logical thing to do right now.

Maybe that's the kicker. Logic. It's not until our city officials begin applying some that we will get out of this water mess that we're in. Instead of bulldozing acres and acres and acres of forest to build new homes, offices, strip malls,etc., our illustrious city officials should be deepening the lake in anticipation of future demand.

Logic. The city of Raleigh officials show no inclination of understanding its value. Effective city managers have foresight and plan accordingly. Raleigh's simply react.

Logic. Please, someone explain the concept to them.

I run a greenhouse business in hoke county,and am loosing my house and business over the drought. I have been in business for twenty years. why can't your station have some stories about the business who are going out of business. stories about what can be done to help them out. maybe get on the govenor to help. I wrote him and he said to go to the sba. they turned me down this week for a loan. who else can help? The sba said I could not show enough income on projections for the year..Maybe they don't know what the meaning of diaster drought releif. signed Is there any help out there.... What is done with the water fine money go. does it go for those who need help...

I'm not on the Raleigh water system, but my family and I have tried to do what we can to cut back. It is so nice to finally read others commenting on what I've been saying all along...it is uncontrolled and unchecked growth that has put the area in this situation. People need to remember as they are asked to completely change their lifestyles to get through this, that it is the public servants that they elected who have failed them and they do not deserve a second chance. Make your vote count when the time comes.

I can not take the drought seriously or what the local government says. For years we have been charged for runoff water on our water bill. How can we have a runoff problem during a drought? So now they want to charge extra for drought conditions? Seems to me like we are being charge for both having too little available water and then too much water at the same time. It just doesn't add up.

Also look at the lake levels. As of today, two of the three major lakes in the area are ABOVE normal levels.

Then the water department says to buy rain barrels (hopefully from your local water department). Doesn't holding water in rain barrels take water away from the water table and lake levels? Maybe the local government just can't think beyond one step at a time.

Then the water saving groups seems to be down on using well water. Why? The water table wells draws from is much larger than any lake. Could it be that the government is just afraid of losing the money from residents?

THe drought is bogus. Falls Lake is mismanaged. The other large reservoirs in our area are OVER normal levels. Weve had plenty of rain this winter...it's been wetter than normal. We are getting fleeced by our local governments, plain and simple. I really feel bad forthe people who are losing their livelyhoods because of the poor management of Falls Lake.

id just like to know if anyone is thinking of putting a water purification plant on the coast anytime soon, so we dont run out of water. i know in the arabic countries where there is no fresh water thats how they do it. when the hurricane hit new orleans they put air craft carrier off the coast for water just a couple sugestions.

In my mind we should start concentration on figuring out a way to double our water supply. We have two problems. 1. not enough water, and 2. we have more people using more water. It the same arguement that a business has about money. Do we spend less (cut expenses) or make more (sell more). I think that we just need to figure out a solution that will allow us to use twice as much water as we are using now.

Meeker and his entire city council should be given shovels, sent out to Falls Lake and made to dig the lake deeper. Maybe if they feel the pain that the small guy is now feeling, they will come up with some innovative growth management ideas.

They are the ones, in part, who got us into this mess. They should be held accountable.

Low cost water reduction methods. Technique 1. Use the "If it’s yellow let it mellow. If its brown flush it down" method for toilet flushing 2. Buy a large bucket and gather water from the shower & kitchen sink prior to it warming up 3. Take 5 minute showers 4. Pour a glass of water and use that when brushing your teeth. Then use for shaving. 5. Catch water dripping from air conditioners or dehumidifiers in a bucket 6. Use full loads in washing machine

Device 1. Replace the toilet flapper if it is over 2 years old. 2. Toilet displacement devices, including bags or bottles 3. Dual flush adapters allow users to use a standard flush for solids removal or a modified smaller flush for liquid and paper 4. Low-flow shower head or a flow reduction valve behind the shower head 5. Use low flow aerators, 0.5, 0.75, and 1.0 gpm, in the bathroom and 2.5 gpm for more general washing purposes 6. Fix leaks 7. Install water barrels and use the water to flush the toilet or watering

To determine if a leak exists 1. Turn taps off firmly, but avoid excessive force that may damage the tap washer and cause the tap to leak 2. Fix leaking taps: it may be as simple as changing a washer. Your hardware store can advise how to do this ( http://www.portlandonline.com/water/index.cfm?c=30409&a=129710 ), or you can seek assistance from a plumber 3. Check for leaking pipes by reading your water meter ( http://www.h2ouse.org/resources/meter/index.cfm ) before you go to bed, then again in the morning. If there has been no water use overnight, and the reading has changed, you may have a leaking pipe and should seek advice from a plumber Toilet leaks 1. Lift off the toilet tank lid. Without flushing, place 2 dye tablets (or 10 drops of food coloring) in the toilet tank. 2. If water in the bowl turns color within 10 minutes, you have a toilet leak. Silent toilets leaks can account for up to 300 gallons of day of lost water without anybody noticing the leakage

I am certainly no expert, but when I read this in today's news:

"Water flow in the Neuse River is about twice the target level, Meeker said, so cutting releases from Falls Lake won't have an immediate impact downstream."

I think to myself: Why wasn't this done earlier. Falls lake seems to be the only lake with a major problem with its level. Jordon and Kerr are actually above normal. Why has Raleigh been dumping so much water downstream while asking its residents to "let it mellow" or "shave with your teeth brushing water"?

We shouldn't worry about the water crisis. After all, we're coming into our storm and tropical weather seasons.

Isn't that, after all, what our Raleigh officials have counted on for years as their water management solution????

I took a drive to High Point, and then on to the small town of Spencer this past weekend and guess what? Every lake and river I passed were full to the brim. My family lives in Archdale, just below High Point and the family lake is above normal levels too! My family and I here in Raleigh have done our part in conserving. It does seem like Falls Lake has been mis-managed. The politicians and council members have enjoyed spending the extra income from the taxes of new people moving here but they've dropped the ball big time on planning for new infrastructure. And why in the world did we not get out there when it was dry and dredge the exposed lake bottom? Look at the extra volume the lake would hold when it fills back up. I'm sure some golf course out in Arizona would love to haul the fertile soil away for FREE!

Meeker and his city council should take low-flow devices and stick them where the sun don't shine and the rain don't fall.

Low-flow devices...yeah, those will solve the problem. Please.

If I was a Raleigh resident, I would be very upset that Raleigh has added all of these other towns to their water system, just to have it dry up. From with I understand, selling water to these other towns was a move for Raleigh to MAKE money from a utility, not just supply a utility to a city. If this is a fact, where has all the money gone to? Meker must be using this revenue somewhere else. Looks like it's not going into finding new water sources.

Don't waste any shower or bath water, reuse it for your toilets. Place the stopper in the drain and when you're finished bathing, take a wet/dry vacuum and you'll have a full resevior of water in just a minute or two...enough for a couple of flushes.

Are any of us really suprised how this water issue is being managed. This is the same mayor that allowed his entire city to shut down for 14 hrs after a 1/4 qtr inch snowfall at 11am .My family is doing all it can, and we will do no more. I have always respected our rescources and will continue to do so. Our leaders have nothing to add except charges, no solutions, just charges, no plans, just charges. Stop the building now, stop the overcrowding now, find ways to enlarge the lake and build another one, find a scource to keep it full then you can continue with your growth. Lets get caught up before we become the worst city in America to live in. ML Raleigh

Hey it's raining again...the Meeker water management system is working.

I hate to be the bearer of non-conservation news but the drought is basically over. The fact is you don’t need as much rain to fill the lakes as our rain deficit. An inch here and an inch there and all the lakes will be overflowing which most are already. Why they want to start charging us more for water use and keep severe restrictions up is beyond me when more water flows downstream that we can even imagine. They talk big numbers like 40 million gallons used daily but honestly the bit of rain we got today adds hundreds of millions of gallons. So much so that I guarantee the lake rises two feet at the very least over the next few days. We were 8 ft down a couple weeks ago and now it’s 5 with one storm. By next week it will be two or three and another inch of rain can fill the lake up and make it like the drought never happened.

You can't seriously blame our Raleigh water crisis on just the local govenment. In the past week it has pretty much rained more times than in the past three months combined. It's true that the council members and the Army Corps of Engineers could have taken more drastic measures to prevent us from being in such a low-water level plight at Falls lake. However, using our our government as a scapegoat for this natural phenomenon is ludicrous. I live right next to the Bartons Creek boat access at the south end of Falls, and I have been checking the water levels religiously over the last 5 weeks. No matter who you blame it on, the drought is real and we need to be responsible citizens and conserve water. It is true that the only way to get out of this water crisis is to have more rain, yet every bit counts. In the mean time, city officials should initiate a dredging project to make the lake deeper. An enourmous ammount of lake bottom is exposed so now is the best time to do it!

Only a crazy liberal would get hysterical that we might run out of something that literally falls from the sky! It's because of these dimwits that we let our government steal our money and freedom. Why do none of you lefties complain about a shortage of freedom?

Look out the window - we have more water than we know what to do with right now. If we don't use it, whether to drink it, water lawns, or just let the hose run for no particular reason, it will just eventually flow downstream and be lost.

Conservation (whether water or gasoline) makes no difference at all. All it does is give the government and liberal activists another "crisis" to use as an excuse to expand their power and confiscate our wealth.

Why doesn't the City of Raleigh maintain contingency water sources for emergency situations, i.e, the drought! Pipelines should be built to every abandoned quarry in the area to use under drought conditions. Raleigh could buy water from Durham and they could start using the Teer Quarry that they just recently turned the valve off-turn it back on, Raleigh can buy the water. Raleigh should not be solely dependent on one source of water, what would they do if there was a structural failure of the dam? I worked as a engineer for Progress Energy for 30 years and were had to maintain a reserve capacity of between 20-30% to keeps the lights on; plus PE's generating plants are scattered all over N & S Carolina and interconnected by high voltage transmission lines. The City of Raleigh needs to take a proactive role in maintaining sufficient water for the growth that is happening in the area.

I take conserving water very seriously, even when it's not necessary. I only flush once a day when yellow, twice when brown. I live in an apt complex, so washing the car is not an option, but have purchased the "blue" microfiber towels to keep the car clean after a good rain. If it hasn't rained then I fill a container 1/5 full and use the rag to wipe the car off. I also have a spray bottle of water for cleaning the wheels and use it to mist the debris off after cleaned.

We are installing synthetic grass as a way not only to deal with the current drought but also as a continual effort to conserve water and the environment. Many dry climate and drought ridden states offer tax rebates for those who install synthetic grass as an incentive. The stuff is so real looking and feeling you would never ever know if was synthetic unless someone told you.&nbsp; I hope that more people consider this application. It not only conserves water, you won't need any chemical treatments, gas and a mower for maintaining it!

I'm sure your neighbors are going to love your aynthetic grass. You probably just dropped the value of homes in the neighborhood by 20k. Oh, by the way the lakes are almost full so the drought is just about history. It will take city leaders another three years to admit it though because fear makes people believe that higher rates and a larger water infrastructure are needed. The fact is we had a very dry summer that caused a severe drought and conserving was very necessary before early March. What city leaders don't say is that when regular rainfall comes back and we get a few inches of rain here and there the lakes are full and we are just fine again. Anyway keep conserving. When Falls Lake is full you would be surprised at the billions of gallons that flow over the dam each day because we just don't need it.

Wow - that will be the day that I use a wet vac to suck water out of my tub to flush my toilet! Unless the city is prepared to provide every resident with a wet vac.

What they need to do is stop allowing all of these apartment and condo/townhouse complexes! And quit handing out building permits like candy on holloween, at least until they find a solution!

There are also companies that install filtering systems for gray water. Installing them in large communities will cut down water usage.

I'd like to know how long Raleigh officials are going to keep blaming the drought for their lack of planning for growth in the area and you guys in the media are in their back pocket also. Sure we've been dry but look at the other lakes in the area, Jordan, Kerr, Michie, all at full pond or over. Which lake is still under, you guessed it folks Falls Lake. Too many people sucking off one water supply and Raleigh officials know it and blame it all on a drought. Lets just keep building, and building and building houses without letting infrastructure catch up. Complete retards and the worst city planning I've ever seen.

The city of Raleigh has done a poor job of planning for growth. They have not addressed many of the problems in the cities water system leading to continuous pipe breaks. They have done a poor job of doing contingency planning (ie. developing a second source for water, increasing the capacity of Falls Lake, etc.). Instead the entire burden has fallen on the citizens by restricting freedoms and putting landscapers and other businesses requiring water in financial hardship.

That being said, we have found ways to save a considerable amount of water. We have cut our water consumption in half over the last few months. We now turn the water off during our showers while soaping up instead of letting the water run. Instead of letting water run down the drain while waiting for the dish water to warm up, we fill up a bucket and use it to water plants. The syphon old dish washing water and the kids bath water and used it on our plants outside. It is possible and prudent to use less.

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