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For Dix, 'what's next' could be a long time coming

Posted January 31, 2013

— The lease for the Dorothea Dix property was finalized by the City of Raleigh four weeks ago, but it could be several years before local residents see any changes to the 325-acre parcel of land in Southwest Raleigh.

The Dix property is officially a city park now, with the exception of 15 acres still in use by the state. City staff and community members are now getting ready to start talking about the vision for Dix in the future.

“The campus will continue to operate and look very much like it has,” explained city manager Russell Allen.

For those already using the land once known as Dix Hill, this comes as welcome news.

Not-so-hidden gem

Jonathan and Christine Brenner have been taking their German shepherd Ziggy to Dix several times a week for the past five years.

“I wasn’t too thrilled when I found out Raleigh bought it, because I’m afraid they’re going to come in and turn it into a typical city park,” Jonathan Brenner said. “We like the fact that it’s wide and open, and we can take the dog, let him run around.”

“And while you’re here, you can watch the [radio-controlled] planes, and there’s usually a golfer,” Christine Brenner added. “Everyone has their own activities.”

Steps to park planning

According to the lease agreement, the N.C. Department of Health and Human Services has up to 15 years to relocate the offices it maintains at Dix. In the meantime, the state will remain responsible for the maintenance of all buildings and grounds on the property it uses.

Although the city is free to build upon any portion of the land not in use by the state, leaders must first decide what to build.

“We have our parks planning process,” Allen said. “First, before the master plan at all is designed, you engage your various stakeholders in the community.”

John Hoal is the principal of H3 Studio. His firm has been involved in the design and revitalization of a number of parks across the country, and was brought on by the Dix Visionary Group to do early conceptual work for the Dix property.

The master planning of a park, Hoal said, has never taken less than 18 months to complete and tends to follow roughly the same trajectory, regardless of its size or city of origin.

The first step often begins with public feedback. Although an ongoing part of the process, Hoal explained that it plays a crucial role in establishing an overall vision for the park.

Once this has been established, the various architects, engineers and outside consultants working on the project begin to look much closer at the physical characteristics of the land.

Dix could be a bit more complicated than usual, Hoal said.

“There’s some environmental issues that you have to deal with, and you’ve got a lot of buildings that have to be surveyed,” he said. “I think the actual physical master planning of this is going to take a while.”

In Hoal’s experience, the first step – engaging the community – is often the most time-consuming.

For example, the master planning of Forest Park in St. Louis, Mo. took two and a half years and included 50 community meetings.

“By the time we really got through everything, it was three and a half years of work before we even could sort of put a shovel in the ground,” he said. “And then we’ve been putting shovels in the ground piecemeal and based upon funding for the last 15 years.”

“I think it’s really important for a community that is taking on, effectively, a brand new 300-acre park to realize how long it’s going to take,” Hoal said.

In an email to The Record, Capital Improvements Program Manager Stephen Bentley said the Raleigh City Council has not yet determined a framework for Dix’s planning process.

Until that framework is adopted, Bentley explained there is no way to estimate how long the process may take.

Raleigh’s park planning past

In 2009 the City started a master planning process for Moore Square. Planning began with a host of public information sessions and a design competition put together by the city and the state Historic Preservation Office. Christopher Counts Studio of Charlottesville, Va. was eventually selected to oversee the project.

During the next two years, Counts Studio developed an official Master Plan — a rough draft of the drawings that will be used in the construction phase of the process.

The final stages of design will begin following an environmental study of the soil and existing greenery on the property, which is scheduled for completion later this year. With these phases will come more public input and information sessions. City officials estimate the entire process through construction will take seven years.

According to city officials, it is too early to say whether the Dorothea Dix planning will follow a similar process as Moore Square. Bentley said at this point, he can’t even say whether the process would line up with the city’s established park master planning guidelines, which adhere to national best practice standards.

In conjunction with the Moore Square master plan and a number of individual park renovations, Raleigh’s Parks and Recreation Department is in the process of developing a new long-range system plan. The plan’s stated purpose is to “shape the direction, development and delivery of the city’s parks and recreation services over the next 20 years.”

Dorothea Dix is not included in the current draft of this plan.

Dorothea Dix today

Although Dix Hill is more state land than city park at this point, locals have grown fond of the large, open vistas spread across its 325 acres. The largest and most popular is a field located off the campus’ Barbour Drive. On a recent Sunday afternoon, it hosted a range of visitors – runners, dog-walkers and radio-controlled plane enthusiasts among them.

“My favorite part,” said Jonathan Brenner, “is that it’s not overly regulated, and the fact that, generally, everybody keeps to themselves, and everybody’s safe.

“You don’t have to worry about being hassled for, say, the dog being off leash,” he added, gesturing to a panting Ziggy patiently awaiting a new game of fetch.

Whatever changes park planning may bring to Dix, some hope that freedom and open space remain.

Justin Jones and Hobert Orton are former members of the flying club Regular Dudes R/C. They heard about the open space at Dix through word of mouth and began piloting their collection of planes and helicopters on the land nearly two years ago.

“It’s a beautiful place for this kind of stuff,” Orton said. “You don’t find fields like this too often, you know, the trees are far away, it’s a beautiful view, a nice place to be.

“It’s a public field,” he said.


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  • sunneyone2 Feb 1, 2013

    What about the buildings NC State university maintains on the land? There are at least 5, probably more...

    Build a stadium there? WHY? Why would you destroy open space like that?

  • skeeter II Feb 1, 2013

    I assume that the City of Raleigh is responsible under the lease for the maintenance of the DIX grounds and buildings not still occupied by the State. This would also call for the city police to patrol the DIX campus.

    Have not heard anything about this in the newspaper or on TV.

    Sure would like for a copy of the lease to be printed in the News and Observer! I am wondering about what the State gave up and what the City is responsible for!

    Seems like a BAD deal for the State and for the City taxpayers! Where is the City going to get the annual rent money?

  • nic Feb 1, 2013

    I have a great idea how about build a mental health facility since there are no beds available at CRH, Cherry, Broughton and patients are taking up beds in emergency rooms for 3 or more days while waiting for some facility to have an open bed. So while your mom is in the ER for a heart attack she is in a bed next to a psychotic patient who has been there 2 days without meds. Very comforting thought...but lets build a park because we don't have enough of those. While Dix was opened people used the open space for thier dogs, planes, walking and if the hospital was reopened they would still be able to do the same.

  • dwntwnboy2 Feb 1, 2013

    "this artical we make this little known Mecca a destination, for pick pockets, and those spring Nudest doing some sun Bathing"- well, if they are naked, nothing to pick out of their pockets now is there? :-) Nothing wrong with the human body anyhow, and when was the last time anyone heard of an actual "pick pocket" thief? Great open green space for the city to grow around, we'll be glad we did this in 20+ years.

  • oleguy Feb 1, 2013

    Just saying, Sounds like Unlawful assembly,, Haz. chemicals on state property, County and city dog ordances being broken, When some ones dog running loose mistakes a radio plane for a frizby it will be on...Just saying, and now this artical we make this little known Mecca a destination, for pick pockets, and those spring Nudest doing some sun Bathing,,, Just saying, and all this at the cost of taxpayers,,, Build a park Charge admission

  • newform Feb 1, 2013

    The comments about stadiums and entertainment venues perplex me. Raleigh has more than enough areas zoned for business. What it lacks are large, natural, open spaces. This land is a huge opportunity for Raleigh. I firmly believe preserving as much of the existing natural layout to be the best use of Dix campus. The mental and physical benefits gained, from being in nature, seem to stay closer to what Dorothea Dix envisioned for the campus (other than an institution for mental health services, of course). It is such a beautiful, peaceful place that we
    would forever lose with the addition of further concrete and asphalt.

  • cjw6105 Jan 31, 2013

    What a wonderful idea to put a stadium/arena on the Dix property. That would bring in more parking meters, which would make Downtown Raleigh awash in funds. Then they could look for a mental health facility somewhere, maybe in Lizard Lick, Kennebec or near the Nash County line.

  • superman Jan 31, 2013

    Get the plans from RR and build an entertainment complex.

  • Mr. Middle of the Road Jan 31, 2013

    How about we make it hospital for the mentally ill? There is a tremendous need for that. And most of it would still remain an open space within the City.

  • markjb33 Jan 31, 2013

    Jerry Richardson has said he will will move the Panthers if Charlotte doesn't come up with the money to revive BofA stadium. Radical thought in this college sports only town, but build a stadium on this property, bring the Panthers, maybe when the Hornets return they too will come to Raleigh(PNC). That would make Raleigh a destination.