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Duke, UNC ranked high on top colleges list

Posted September 10, 2013

U.S. News & World Report released its annual college rankings on Tuesday, and Triangle universities were well represented in numerous categories. 

Duke University was No. 7 out of nearly 1,800 schools, and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill was No. 30. Wake Forest University, located in Winston-Salem, was 23rd. 

North Carolina State University came in at No. 101.

UNC-Chapel Hill ranked as the fifth-best public school, and N.C. State checked in at No. 47. 

Among historically black colleges, North Carolina Central University was 12th and Fayetteville State University was 25th. 

U.S. News and World Report rankings are based on graduation and retention rates, assessment by peers and counselors, faculty resources, student selectivity, financial resources, graduation rate performance and alumni giving.


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  • Wacky_dood Sep 10, 2013

    I don't know too many people who put a lot of weight in these US New polls.

    I graduated from UC Berkeley with BS/MSEE. According to US News, Berkeley is 20th--behind such intellectual power houses as Notre Dame (are you kidding me?) and several others. Their methodology favors private schools which is why the top public school (Berkeley) comes in at number 20.

    According to this group in the UK, UCB is 9th in the world while Notre Dame is 94th.


  • BernsteinIII Sep 10, 2013

    "You can read about the Methodology here: http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2013/09/09/how-us-news-calculated-the-2014-best-colleges-rankings" - twa s1000

    "Graduation rate performance"? Although easily calculated, how does it correlate with quality? In fact, I would hazard a guess that it is an inverse correlation with quality, i.e. "Get their money and push 'em out the door mentality".

    "Peer assessment score"? Obviously subjective, not at all objective.

    I found this interesting:

    "Even if a school's ranking data changed little in the 2014 edition compared with the previous edition, if the new methodology placed more emphasis on a ranking factor that the school scored relatively higher in, then its rank may have risen."

    Oh, that's comforting. Everything stays the same and your rank goes higher? This ain't science, but probably passes for science at UNC.


  • rduguyhere Sep 10, 2013

    Poor Poor Wolpfie Aggies.... Their school is just like their athletic programs.... Terrible!

  • rduguyhere Sep 10, 2013

    Funny that a State fan is defending a bottom of the ACC school. LOL Just put your wolpfie tail between your legs, go to the NCSux board of trustees or whatever they are, and try to make your own school better. You continue to try to bring down others while doing nothing to make yours better.

  • rduguyhere Sep 10, 2013

    Well, we know NCSU uses the $$ tag to go along with everything. Interesting. Where do you get your so called "Facts"?

  • rduguyhere Sep 10, 2013

    I'm curious about the headline of this story. It mentioned UNC and Dook high on the lists but doesn't list NCSU as being low on the lists.

    I guarantee you that if UNC was at 100 or higher like NCSU, the headline would read "UNC at the bottom of the list".

    Just an observation about this bad rag that I am reading and posting on here.

    No need to comment NCSU fans. Just stop deflecting and try to work on the reputation of your own school to get it above 100 for once!

  • Radioactive Ted Sep 10, 2013

    Woodson's not going to be happy with this. He's been trying EVERYTHING (and then some) to get the rankings up.

    Oh, well, he'll be gone in a couple of years anyway.

  • Whiskey4one Sep 10, 2013

    "The salary reports you stated only include bachelor’s graduates without higher degrees, what do you think the comparison would look like if you'd add in all of the medical doctors, lawyers and people with higher degrees at UNC?"


    That's a fair point, but it is neither apples to apples based on the different types of degrees offered, nor is it the subject of this USNWR report and this particular discussion.

    I would say that I regard UNC's medical school and the work those students do in a completely different light from the rest of the university in general.

  • BernsteinIII Sep 10, 2013

    "The salary reports you stated only include bachelor’s graduates without higher degrees, what do you think the comparison would look like if you'd add in all of the medical doctors, lawyers and people with higher degrees at UNC?"

    Then you wouldn't be comparing apples to apples. Keep in mind there is an inherent bias in the UNC Board of Govs that put the Law, medical, etc... schools in Chapel Hill. Just look at all the UNC alum currently on the board now, as compared to other schools in the UNC system. Also note how NCSU got railroaded for athletes selling sneakers, but UNC does far worse and it's all cover-up. To deny there is/was a bias is being completely untruthful

  • dsdaughtry Sep 10, 2013

    here is the college rankings based on USNWR followed by College Salary Payscale Report ranking:

    Boston College #31(22), Clemson #62(20), Duke #7(5), Florida State #91(49), Georgia Tech #36(5), Maryland #62(18), Miami #47(32), UNC #30(38), NC State #101(31), Notre Dame #18(1), Pittsburgh #62(126), Syracuse #62(69), Virginia #23(15), Virginia Tech #69(11) and Wake Forest #23(4).

    USNWR does use evidence and quantitative measures as posted on its website. Payscale only uses measures based on user feedback which may be inaccurate or skewed. If UNC is liberal arts and NC State is sciences, then a separation of 7 points should raise red flags that a liberal arts degree may have more potential in overall salary vs a science degree. This is why I do not think Payscale data is a good example. However, USNWR data does not appear to be a popularity contest based on its data collected. It seems rather its findings are statistically on target based on all universities and colleges.