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Dems call for ban on 'pink stripe' licenses

Published: 2013-03-04 18:23:00
Updated: 2013-03-04 19:58:17

House Democrats spoke out Monday in support of a bill prohibiting the state from issuing distinctively marked licenses to young immigrants allowed to be in the U.S. under federal Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

DACA allows a two-year block on deportation for immigrants who were brought to the country illegally as children, who are in or have completed school or are in the military and who have no criminal record.  

After DACA was implemented, the state Division of Motor Vehicles asked for an official opinion on the matter from state Attorney General Roy Cooper. 

Once Cooper advised that DACA immigrants are legally eligible for licenses, Transportation Secretary Tony Tata announced he would begin issuing them, but only with a special design that includes a bright pink stripe across the top and with the words "NO LEGAL STATUS" imprinted on them.

House Bill 184 would ban the state from using the special design.

"We are the only state where there's a proposal on the table, supported by the governor, to have this sort of pink stripe" said sponsor Rep. Paul Luebke, D-Durham.

Under Luebke's proposal, licenses for DACA drivers would look like other licenses but would be set to expire at the end of their two-year grace period.

"The solution is simply to realize that these young people are legal," he said. "They should be treated like everyone else." 

Rep. Rick, Glazier, D-Cumberland, said the "pink-stripe license" would stigmatize the holder every time he or she has to produce it. "It serves no legitimate state purpose," he said. 

Millbrook High School graduate Jose Rico has lived in the U.S. for 10 years and would be eligible for a license under DACA.  He called the special license a "scarlet letter."

"The state is outing us, putting us in a box that we are illegal when we do hold legal presence here in this state to work and, now, to drive," Rico said. 

Rabbi John Friedman of Judea Reform Congregation in Durham said he couldn't imagine what supporters of the special license were thinking.

"All I can imagine is that they could not see in the faces of young people like this the faces of their own children," said Friedman. "Would they deny their own children hope?" 

The measure faces long odds in the Republican-dominated legislature. McCrory has called the special license a "pragmatic compromise," saying DACA licenses must be visually distinct to make sure the license holder can't register to vote or access government services.

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Return to Mexico and get your license with your parents. While you are at it how about applying for legal status along with your parents so you can become a legal immigrant. That is why they brought you here in the first place right ? Wait a minute they were and are criminals in the eyes of every "legal" immigrant and American citizen that has one ounce of common sense. You are no better and the USA owes you nothing .

I cannot wait for the Democrats to come up with a law/regulation (they seem to be VERY good at those) to make it illegal and a FELONY Criminal offense for citizens who own homes, not to take in illegals and care and feed them, and let them live in their homes for free....................oh did I write that...............uh oh, next law/regulation coming!!!!

The same ignorant people think crimminals deserve being US voters. The same ignorant people voted in an incompetent treasonous dear leader.

Why because these people are special for some reason ,Let them earn their place in the US first before they get everything free

You got your license. Now you don't like the color. Do you want your license or not? You don't like the pink? Become a citizen.

"The solution is simply to realize that these young people are legal," he said. "They should be treated like everyone else."

NO, THEY ARE NOT LEGAL, QUIT LYING! Just because they vote Democrack doesn't make them legal.

I can certainly see both sides, but, this will prevent some abuse of having a NC license. Not sure if it's still the same, but travel between US, Mexico and Canada, a NC license was used just like a passport. So yes, I would say it is needed.

I say make them wear "Pink" hats while driving with "Pink" signs on their cars so we will all know the ILLEGALS! madmaxx

Sounds like you should wear a "dunce" hat while driving a "clown" car.

"young immigrants"

Again, is it so hard to put "illegal" in there? It is just one word.

The same ignorant people here in favor of humiliating immigrants who are allowed to be in the U.S. under federal Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program with a pink stripe and NO LEGAL STATUS emblazoned across the license are the very same ones who would want HOMOSEXUAL, or ATHEIST emblazoned across my own if they had the chance- atheistswillrule

Drama queen much?

Note- I strongly support fair treatment of aliens, and support the DACA program too.

But a differently labeled license is ENTIRELY reasonable.

As noted under-drinking-age drivers got difference licenses too. Because you need to be able to tell "at a glance" that it's not a standard "ok to do whatever" license.

Same deal here.

I say make them wear "Pink" hats while driving with "Pink" signs on their cars so we will all know the ILLEGALS!Why hide, come on out, be proud to be illegal it is the "IN" thing now!

Ah, lets make military service mandatory for everyone! Maybe that will make democrats (most of whom never serve) more reasonable. jeffjohnson123

Last poll I saw showed those who had served were just slightly more republican than democrat.

33% to 29% (with the LARGEST group, 34%, being independents)

That's hardly a huge gap.

Why do illegals have a drivers licenses anyway? Bad enough we have to pay for dead beats who are legal and live off of tax payers.We also have to pay for illegals school,health care, food, what ever else. Just one more way Liberals are destroying this nation. Just one out of many!

"Logic and reason seem to escape the Democrats. I guess next they'll suggest children will not need 'hall passes' in school."

Kids in the halls without hall passes, think of the horrors that would transpire!

"Why not remove the flag on the license that requires 'corrective lenses'?"

My God, the blind would take to the roads and kill us all!

"Even better, lets remove the requirement for people to pay taxes"

Of course, the next logical step after removing the corrective lenses requirement on licenses is to eliminate all taxes. But what's the NEXT step? Outlaw pencil sharpeners and allow trees to marry each other! Scary but true!

I do not understand, Driving Licenses are not a RIGHT, if you are legal, no problem, if you are illegal, then take what you get. If you want a drivers license that is the same Mexico will issue you one just like the rest of the Mexicans have, no special colors or anything.

Color coding the license so the Officer that stops them automatically knows certain information is standard practice. In the case of those that are under DACA, this means that the officer doesn't have to take the time to determine their illegal status, and then arrest them, only to determine later that they are under DACA. It's a benefit for both the LEO and the driver.

A majority of illegal aliens make their money from Republicans. But they don't want their lawns mowed by Americans cause that would cost money. Same with their employees at meat packing companies and their kitchen workers and their harvesters at their mega-farms.

But it's easier to make us think it's all democrats that sneak the illegals over the border.

Pink stripes on ID's? OK!. How about pink jump suits for the offenders who broke the law and either brought the immigrants here illegally or gave birth here and created "anchor" babies??

Why is this such a big deal. If you are legal then you don't get a pink stripe. If you are well.... you will get one. Who cares! There are more important things to worry about. If they are illegal then NO they should not have the same rights or benefits we have. Plain and simple.

Oh for the love of God, quit with this waa waa waa business! If someone UNDER 21 has to have a distinctively colored license, then this is FINE, so please fermez la bouche!

The same ignorant people here in favor of humiliating immigrants who are allowed to be in the U.S. under federal Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program with a pink stripe and NO LEGAL STATUS emblazoned across the license are the very same ones who would want HOMOSEXUAL, or ATHEIST emblazoned across my own if they had the chance. People wonder how Nazi Germany was able to take control? ALL you need to do is see how small minded frightened people want to label and discriminate at each and every opportunity. Thankfully, in the grand scheme of things, these small minded people are already outnumbered by the majority of Americans. Immigrants, you are welcome here, Atheists, you are welcome here and Homosexuals, you are welcome here as well! Don't worry about those small towns with 1 stoplight and 12 churches. Their rule is long over.

These licenses aren't being given to all illegal immigrants. They are being issued to select people who really do deserve separate consideration. They aren't citizens, but they are also not responsible for being here themselves. Feel free to disagree w/ the Obama administration's decision on this, but don't pretend it's as simple as lumping all illegal immigrants together.

If they qualify for the license, they qualify as exceptions among illegal immigrants. They still can't vote; they're still not citizens. Why stigmatize them w/ the pink border? They have permission to be here; what other purpose does the pink border serve? Visual distinctions on Id. between people who are under 21 and over 21 serves the purpose of checking age for alcohol purposes. If a non-citizen is here legally, what does the pink border accomplish?

I don't see the problem with the pink stripe license for illegals. They are in this country illegally. It needs to show that on these cards. Only when you go through the proper channels do you get the privilege of a "normal" license. If we, as legal Americans, were to go to their country, we wouldn't even be able to have a license.

Looks like our leaders need a dictionary. They don't seem to understand the meaning of "illegal."

Deport illegal aliens. Support conservative ideology. shane4 March 5, 2013 8:07 a.m. Report abuse

No thanks. We see what "conservative" ideology brings NC. We have BIG gov in tanning, areolas, natural plants, possums, free ultrasounds, free counseling (including welfare, food stamp, and gov housing options) before abortions, bath salts, energy beer. Wheres this "less gov" nonsense? And save your DEM comback. Im not those libs either.

Regarding the pink licenses, they represent another form of descrimination. We are allowing them a short term legal entry to the US as a way to gain permanent status. So why introduce an added barrier to keep some people separated. This seems counter to the principles of the program. Our politicians have lost their perspective on the real issues in our country. They need to get back to basics. Our new governor should be addressing the sequestor not pink licenses.

Ah, lets make military service mandatory for everyone! Maybe that will make democrats (most of whom never serve) more reasonable. jeffjohnson123

Are you ignorant enough to say that the majority of republicans have served in the military? How about we make having a high school diploma mandatory for everyone! Maybe that will make republicans ( most of whom never got one) more reaasonable. atheistswillrule March 5, 2013 8:22 a.m. Report abuse

You beat me to it. I bet Jeff Johnson never served a day in his life. I bet he voted for that lib Romney too. 13th Intel Squad. Beale AFB. Where did you serve Jeff?

"Funny how that selective memory loss works with people who live in their own little world..."

Sounds like a Republican and Democrat alike.....

Enabling pure and simple.

Ah, lets make military service mandatory for everyone! Maybe that will make democrats (most of whom never serve) more reasonable. jeffjohnson123

Are you ignorant enough to say that the majority of republicans have served in the military? How about we make having a high school diploma mandatory for everyone! Maybe that will make republicans ( most of whom never got one) more reaasonable.

"Under Luebke's proposal, licenses for DACA drivers would look like other licenses but would be set to expire at the end of their two-year grace period."

Well, considering they're here as "illegal immigrants", we certainly wouldn't want a way of identifying whether or not they've taken the proper steps to become legal citizens during their period of amnesty, now would we? The audacity!

You have to be a citizen before you can be a class of citizen. The more illegals can be made to feel uncomfortable the better.

Deport them all. It's called illegal for a reason. They are not future Democratic voters, they are illegal aliens. Stop selling out our country for votes.

They are lucky they are even getting a drivers license. They are here ILLEGALLY anyway....if they don't like the pink stripe fine, do without the license and go back to YOUR country. What part of ILLEGAL do they not understand? They have no rights here and don't deserve special treatment.

Are we only catering to Hispanic illegal, or are we going to cater to EVERY illegal?

How can an illegal, law breaking immigrant join the United States military? I m neither dem nor repub, but I am in favor of this pink license that has "no legal status" on it.

If you're going to cry and whine about a pink stripe, I'll continue cry about paying for you!! Geesh!

Deport illegal aliens. Support conservative ideology.

"Before all this "illegal" coddleing started, did NC not have a different color coded drivers license for drivers under a certain age? Wasn't a discriminating issue then. So, why is issuing a license to an illegal with color code a problem? We can do it to US citizens but, not to illegals."

There is a big difference in denoting an underage status so someone can glance at a license to see they are underage and what they are trying to do with these IDs.

Logic and reason seem to escape the Democrats. I guess next they'll suggest children will not need 'hall passes' in school. Why not remove the flag on the license that requires 'corrective lenses'? Even better, lets remove the requirement for people to pay taxes! Obama's sheep are ruining our country with their lack of self responsibility and discipline. Ah, lets make military service mandatory for everyone! Maybe that will make democrats (most of whom never serve) more reasonable.

Hey dems when will you stop enabling people and start helping them. There is a difference

If the Dems are so upset with the idea that these people are illegals, they need to go back and read the laws already on the books. Everyone realizes they are pandering to the illegals for their votes and without any way to distinguish them, they would be allowed to vote when they are not citizens and should not vote. I suggest to make the dems happy, change the color to GREEN, then we can just call them green cards and keep the notation of "illegal" so they don't vote. Everyone happy now?

Well darn, all you need to register to vote is a valid drivers license and a "fake" SS#. This is getting insane.. no wait, it has been insane!

Even though they have a temporary non deportation hold they are still here illegally and they did break many laws to stay here. They should not have been given any US based drivers licenses. If they wanted a drivers license they should go back home and get one and then get an International drivers license so they can drive here while on their "temporary" hold from being removed. Why we are offering this without something in exchange is beyond me. And what about the felons who brought these folks here illegally and endangered them? Shouldn't the parents or other relatives be prosecuted for child endangerment as well as illegal entry/remaining in the US as well as all their other Identity crimes and misc felonies committed to defraud our government and us citizens? I would also restrict the license to only driving to/from work and school and no passengers permitted in the car at any time. And if they have any violation including a parking ticket while driving DACA ends for them.

I aggree with the opinion that pink licenses are not the way to go.. When an illegal applies for a license they should be arrested and deported ON THE SPOT!!! To the whiners that say " but they were brought into the country as children" I respond with this there are venues in place they can follow or should follow to become an legal, documented foreigner in this country.. If they are not willing to follow proper procedures then they do not deserve to be here.. Further more the excuse that all of the supporters for illegals use that "they need a license to get a job" doesn't float.. IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO HIRE ILLEGALS!! Funny how that selective memory loss works with people who live in their own little world...

The pink stripe is the only way to tell the difference when voter ID comes along. I laughed when they interviewed a Hispanic guy and said it makes them feel like second class citizens. Ummmm, you are not citizens at all!!!!

If we must give them a license, (which I don't agree with), then I see no problem with placing a status on it. There is a totally different license for young drivers, I don't see the big deal. The cards will simply be stating the truth.

Under Luebke's proposal, licenses for DACA drivers would look like other licenses but would be set to expire at the end of their two-year grace period. "The solution is simply to realize that these young people are legal," he said. "They should be treated like everyone else."

Am I the only one that reads this as a Demoncrat who does not understand the meaning of illegal? Recall action should be swift.

Keep the pink. If the illegals don't like, they can go back to their own countries.

First, Luebke & Rico need to get it straight, there is no lawful status for these illegals. Deferred action does not provide an individual with lawful status. Of course, not sure I'm completley sold,that quote is from uscis.gov. Second, I am not a US Citizen. I have held a green card since 1977. Every 10 years I abide by the rules & renew my card & pay the $130+ The back of my green card is stamped "The person identified by this card is authorized to work and reside in the U.S." I wouldn't mind if they put my LEGAL status on my NC drivers license, I love the color Green, make it a Green stripe on mine please. Who cares, the fact is those who are in the US legally & follow the rules are required to keep their green card current. There should be an indicator on licenses. If it's good enough for a Lawful Permanent Resident to have the "stigma" stamped on the back of a green card, it should be good for for DACA ILLEGALS.

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