Raleigh, N.C. — House Democrats spoke out Monday in support of a bill prohibiting the state from issuing distinctively marked licenses to young immigrants allowed to be in the U.S. under federal Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.
DACA allows a two-year block on deportation for immigrants who were brought to the country illegally as children, who are in or have completed school or are in the military and who have no criminal record.
After DACA was implemented, the state Division of Motor Vehicles asked for an official opinion on the matter from state Attorney General Roy Cooper.
Once Cooper advised that DACA immigrants are legally eligible for licenses, Transportation Secretary Tony Tata announced he would begin issuing them, but only with a special design that includes a bright pink stripe across the top and with the words "NO LEGAL STATUS" imprinted on them.
House Bill 184 would ban the state from using the special design.
"We are the only state where there's a proposal on the table, supported by the governor, to have this sort of pink stripe" said sponsor Rep. Paul Luebke, D-Durham.
Under Luebke's proposal, licenses for DACA drivers would look like other licenses but would be set to expire at the end of their two-year grace period.
"The solution is simply to realize that these young people are legal," he said. "They should be treated like everyone else."
Rep. Rick, Glazier, D-Cumberland, said the "pink-stripe license" would stigmatize the holder every time he or she has to produce it. "It serves no legitimate state purpose," he said.
Millbrook High School graduate Jose Rico has lived in the U.S. for 10 years and would be eligible for a license under DACA. He called the special license a "scarlet letter."
"The state is outing us, putting us in a box that we are illegal when we do hold legal presence here in this state to work and, now, to drive," Rico said.
Rabbi John Friedman of Judea Reform Congregation in Durham said he couldn't imagine what supporters of the special license were thinking.
"All I can imagine is that they could not see in the faces of young people like this the faces of their own children," said Friedman. "Would they deny their own children hope?"
The measure faces long odds in the Republican-dominated legislature. McCrory has called the special license a "pragmatic compromise," saying DACA licenses must be visually distinct to make sure the license holder can't register to vote or access government services.



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The difference is I'm not rewarded if I drive over the speed limit. At the very least, I get a warning and that still isn't a benefit. But usually, you get a ticket, have to pay a fine, receive points and have higher insurance costs as a result. So I respect speed limit signs. Sadly, most people have flawed logic.
March 5, 2013 11:19 a.m.
And comparisons to the Nazi pink triangles are disgusting and evidence of the people making the comparison being brain dead... it's also really insulting to the Jews persecuted by the Nazi's.
March 5, 2013 11:15 a.m.
*sigh* *SMH* Was not the scarlet letter a way to mark someone so that the community would know what they had done and cause ridicule and shame to that person? You really shouldn't take things so literally. You certainly missed the mark with that comment. I believe the correct term is simile.
March 5, 2013 11:11 a.m.
More ignorance.
The maximum LIFETIME length of welfare benefits is 5 years.
In your entire life.
Unless you're under age 10 it's impossible for you to have spent most of your life on welfare.
And if you are under age 10 you don't have a drivers license anyway.
March 5, 2013 11:10 a.m.
See, now you're simply lying.
DACA does not involve being legal, or becoming legal, AT ALL.
But it DOES allow illegal aliens under the program to LEGALLY WORK in the US.
http://immigrationequality.org/issues/immigration-basics/daca/
"The grant of deferred action does not grant legal status to an applicant. In addition, it does not cure such applicant’s previous periods of unlawful presence"
So they're STILL illegal.... got that?
"Every individual who is granted deferred action will be lawfully permitted to work."
So they are STILL ILLEGAL.
But allowed to LEGALLY work in the US.
March 5, 2013 11:07 a.m.
I think the bright pink is a bit over the top, color-wise, though.
When they pull it out, anyone within eye shot will easily see it and immediately have a political reaction with possible physical ramifications. That's not smart. Pick a different color to denote that they have a specific legal status.
March 5, 2013 11:07 a.m.
March 5, 2013 11:06 a.m.
And yet you support abortion. Why are so hateful of children?
March 5, 2013 11:06 a.m.
American Indians didn't believe in land ownership, so they didn't lose any land.
March 5, 2013 11:06 a.m.
March 5, 2013 11:05 a.m.
Huh?
We _already_ made under-21 drivers carry a difference license.
How did that undermine respect for the law?
Same thing here. It's a reasonable requirement for a license to immediately, visually, convey it's not valid for at least one thing a "regular" license normally is valid for.
Again not true.... They can apply for a te3mporary visa while they are waiting for a judgement on their status to become legal rewsidence- torchhappysean
The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 states that if you entered illegally, and have been here for 1 year or longer, you are banned for 10 years.
Most folks need to return to their home country to get a legal entry visa.
Thus they'd be banned for 10 years from returning.
If you know a program where illegal children can apply to become legal WITHOUT that, please name it/provide a link. (DACA isn't it)
March 5, 2013 11:04 a.m.
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March 5, 2013 10:36 a.m.
March 5, 2013 10:36 a.m.
Do you ever drive over the speed limit? B/c under that last bit, according to your logic, if you disrespect that law, you can't respect any laws.
The young people who are covered by this federal law did not break any law any more than a passenger in a speeding car has broken a law. Their parents broke a law. We are appropriately providing an opportunity for those young people to work toward citizenship in the only country they've ever known. It's not automatic. There are hoops they have to jump through. One such hoop includes obeying the law.
March 5, 2013 10:30 a.m.
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atheistswillrule March 5, 2013 9:16 a.m____________________I've been to Mexico and Canada many, many times, and all I showed was my NC drivers license. Which is the only two countries I was talking about. For France, italy etc, I've had my passport. Rebelyell55
Clearly you have not been recently..the Canadian border requires a passport now.
March 5, 2013 10:24 a.m.
March 5, 2013 10:24 a.m.
Is that the only retort you people have? You obviously moved to N.C. because it is better than the dead-broke, crime-infested, frozen Yankee cesspool you came from or because you couldn't cut it up there in the "Big City". Trying to force your Chris Matthews/Rachel Maddow agenda on us is one thing, but your only comeback to the popular opinion of people who have lived here for most or all of our lives is to call us incestual hillbillies? I feel sorry for you. It must have been hard on you to be the smallest fish in the big pond up in NY/Boston/etc. You picked up and moved down here and told your former neighbors it was because you wanted warmer weather and cheaper home prices. They knew, and so do we, that the real reason was because you couldn't hack it up there or you probably got laid off. Calling us hillbillies only shows your ignorance. We accepted you when you had nothing.
March 5, 2013 10:24 a.m.
March 5, 2013 10:24 a.m.
A drunken weekend in Tijuana with a mule and a pinkie toe over the border at Niagra Falls doesn't really count sugar. Those laws changed 5 years ago.
March 5, 2013 10:22 a.m.
March 5, 2013 10:20 a.m.
They. Are. Not. Legal.
March 5, 2013 10:17 a.m.
What does citizenship have to do w/ most traffic stops? Why do LEOs need THAT info? It's not relevant to the stop, and could absolutely be abused. Police are human. An objectionable bumper sticker could be the difference between a warning and a ticket. If an LEO has strong, political feelings about immigration, the pink border could influence decisions in irrelevant ways that are to the disadvantage of the federally approved non-citizen driver.
March 5, 2013 10:15 a.m.
I had the same thought. I thought the background color in the driver's license pics were different due to age, or disability?" - Lolly
Lolly, they have a different color for people under 21 so that one has to fake the whole colored section of a license as well as the date of birth. That is if people are even able to alter the new licenses and keep them looking real. Marking an under age person is not the same as marking a person who was brought to this country as a child and had no control over their legal status. If you were in their shoes, how would you feel about being labeled an illegal alien when you had no control over your parents bringing you here. It's one thing to make that choice on your own, and it's another to have no choice in that decision.
March 5, 2013 10:14 a.m.
DO it-make them identified to LEO's readily!!
March 5, 2013 10:12 a.m.
we are doing this anyway through AMERICAN TAXPAYERS..... deport them all.
March 5, 2013 10:12 a.m.
the u.s. gives out 675,000 visas per year with a 7% cap per country. that's 47,250 mexicans per year divided up between ones who can get family-sponsered visas, those who can get employement visas based on highly technical and scientific work, and the "other" catagory.
yes, i said mexicans and yes, that's who you are really talking about because i haven't seen a doggone comment up here about the canidians migrating down i-95, stopping in at the carolina pottery in smithfield, on their way to their florida homes.
going "to the back of the line" means waiting about 300 years.
plus deportation is a "civil penalty" according to u.s. law - which is not the same as "criminal." the term "illegal immigrant" is no more accurate than calling you an "illegal driver" because you are going 56mph.
March 5, 2013 10:09 a.m.
March 5, 2013 10:05 a.m.
No, it's not actually.
Check out DACA some time.
Here's a quote from the programs FAQ-
"Every individual who is granted deferred action will be lawfully permitted to work."
Secondly there are procedures in place for them to follow to become legal- TorchhappySean
Not really... you can not apply to become legal, currently, if you are here illegally. So these people who have been here since children would need to self-deport themselves to countries they have no memory of, know nobody in, and may not even speak the language of... then wait TEN YEARS... -then- they have the option to legally apply to come back.
That's insane to expect of anyone raised here since a child.
I've been to Mexico and Canada many, many times, and all I showed was my NC drivers license.-Rebeleye55
Not recently you haven't. Law changed in 09.
March 5, 2013 10:04 a.m.
March 5, 2013 10:01 a.m.
It shows you can be rewarded for breaking certain laws. We punish people for receiving stolen goods, yet we roll out the red carpet for illegal kids (WIC, welfare, driver licenses, etc.). This undermines respect for any laws.
March 5, 2013 9:55 a.m.
March 5, 2013 9:54 a.m.
You got that right baby! These people are still mad that Obama won, not once, but TWICE! With the hispanic population growing all the time, with women standing up for their rights, for gay folks getting married, it must just blow their micro-minds. The only thing left are small pockets of ignorance where conservatives would rather ruin everything rather than have their small minded concept of "real America" challenged and changed.
March 5, 2013 9:51 a.m.
Do libs feel guilty about something or just don't want lawbreakers to feel embarrassed? Come on, it's ok to identify an illegal with a pink stripe. Isn't it gracious enough that we don't deport them?
March 5, 2013 9:44 a.m.
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atheistswillrule March 5, 2013 9:16 a.m____________________I've been to Mexico and Canada many, many times, and all I showed was my NC drivers license. Which is the only two countries I was talking about. For France, italy etc, I've had my passport.
March 5, 2013 9:36 a.m.
Well if you are supposed to be wearing glasses to drive, and you are not it is a safety issue. Imigration status is not. As for ones BAC ... ... what in the wide world of sports are you talking about. There is no BAC information on ANY driver's license, NC or otherwise. Check your license, you'll never find it as your BAC changes with the alcohol you consume.
March 5, 2013 9:36 a.m.
Simple, we are not talking about one 18 year old girl. We are talking about MILLIONS. And if you can't see the problem then you are part of the problem. FACT: illegals have bankrupted more than one medical facility/hospital and have cost NC alone millions of dollars every year and the country BILLIONS. How much are we paying these politicians to debate this right now? They should be focused on the problems of legal citizens not the problems of people who should not even be here anyway.
March 5, 2013 9:35 a.m.
March 5, 2013 9:31 a.m.
How about the ones who dont want to go to college or get a job? I guess you are saying they are ok to be deported right? Funny how people like you never mention that or the parents of these kids . NO mention of deporting them because that would break up the family, right? You dont think that allowing kids brought here illegally to stay here only encourages more of the same in the future? When do you think our laws should be enforced? At what point? When they no longer vote Dem?
March 5, 2013 9:30 a.m.
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Very catchy phrase. Almost sounds fair. LOL. Just another song and dance for politicians in fear of losing their power and privilege!!
March 5, 2013 9:26 a.m.
March 5, 2013 9:22 a.m.
So do you appologize to American Indians on a daily basis too? You are after all living on their land. Do you pay what's owed them?
This country is made of people who have at one time been here illegally.
March 5, 2013 9:21 a.m.
You can't travel internationally on a NC drivers license. You need an actual passport unless you are on what is known as a "closed loop" cruise.
March 5, 2013 9:16 a.m.
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