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Concealed handgun permit bill passes House

Posted March 26, 2013

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— The state House voted 98-19 Tuesday to remove concealed handgun permits from the documents covered by North Carolina's public records law. The measure now goes to the Senate.

Rep. Justin Burr, R-Stanley, said the bill would prevent criminals from getting their hands on information about law-abiding gun owners. 

"Potential criminals could target those individuals or target those who don't have a permit," Burr said.

The measure passed with little debate. Rep. Mickey Michaux, D-Durham, took time to point out that voting, like owning a gun, is a right but that voter rolls are open to inspection.

Rep. Larry Pittman, R-Cabarrus, called the bill "a compromise" because it left the state's permitting system in place.

"As far as I'm concerned, as long as you have no intention of harming an innocent person, I don't see anyone, especially the government, having access to this information," Pittman said.

North Carolina is one of fewer than 10 state where concealed handgun permit data is available. Publication of concealed handgun permit information following the Newtown school shooting in Connecticut sparked outrage among gun owners.

WRAL News used gun permit information in stories last summer. However, no House member argued that media reports were a reason for closing the records.

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  • OneNationUnderGod Mar 28, 3:24 p.m.

    "Great News! We still want restaurant carry though!"

    and we, the sane, definitely do not want it.-GrandUnion

    We the sane??? So now the assumption is that all gun-owners are insane?
    I've enjoyed reading another pointless tirade...

  • ekscholl Mar 27, 3:05 p.m.

    @gateway8181: H17 ... http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2013&BillID=H17

  • junkmail5 Mar 27, 1:29 p.m.

    Its people like you that do the shooting- Grand Union

    This makes no sense.

    if someone wants to illegally shoot up a campus they won't care if they have a permit or not.

    The permit folks are the ones who go OUT OF THEIR WAY to obey the law.

    The overall violent crime rate among CC holders is LOWER than the general population.

    Giving them greater rights generally IMPROVES safety.

    So, pretty much the exact opposite of everything you have argued for.

  • Lightfoot3 Mar 27, 1:25 p.m.

    "please show that any criminal ever has done that" - Grand Union


    I doubt many, if any criminals have used the records to target a house, though I acknowledge it could happen. But I see no reason to make concealed handgun permits part of the public record. So far it seems that when the information is published, it's done for political reasons.

  • Lightfoot3 Mar 27, 1:18 p.m.

    "we, the sane, definitely do not want it." - Grand Union


    Given most concealed carry folks are sane, you probably meant to write "scared", "uninformed", etc. Other states have it without any problems.


    "Its people like you that do the shooting" - Grand Union


    Please provide proof that it's concealed carry folks that are doing the mass shootings at colleges.


    "We have guns on Campus, they are in the hands of professional Cops" - Grand Union


    Yeah, they always show up after all the shooting is done.


    "not delusional wannabe heros." - Grand Union

    You mean the ones that have stopped active shooters time, and time, and time again?

  • josephlawrence43 Mar 27, 1:03 p.m.

    I hope they DO KNOW that I'm packing. Thats their one and only warning. Anything happening after that is strictly on them.

  • Grand Union Mar 27, 12:58 p.m.

    "Great News! We still want restaurant carry though!"

    and we, the sane, definitely do not want it.

    ". but yet on a college campus that would somehow be awfully dangerous for me to carry??? How many people have to be killed in these supposed gun-free zones before we wise up?"

    Irony at its finest. Its people like you that do the shooting not the folks that don't want guns on campus! Why should we have to rely on your continued sanity and anger management for our safety? We have guns on Campus, they are in the hands of professional Cops, not delusional wannabe heros.

  • Grand Union Mar 27, 12:51 p.m.

    ""Potential criminals could target those individuals or target those who don't have a permit," Burr said."

    please show that any criminal ever has done that.....this is just another sop to the loony libertarians and their paranoia about the ebil gubbermint.

  • Lightfoot3 Mar 27, 12:18 p.m.

    While this is a good thing, I agree with others that I'd rather the effort be used on restaurant carry, college carry, school carpool lane carry, etc.

  • Hip-Shot Mar 27, 11:50 a.m.

    I can't see the harm in restaurant carry as we are required to have zero alcohol in OUR system anyway.

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