Clear division in Senate race over Affordable Care Act

Posted October 27, 2014

— As many of the ads attacking U.S. Sen. Kay Hagan are quick to point out, the North Carolina Democrat cast "the deciding vote" for the Affordable Care Act when it was debated in the Senate several years ago.

Hagan continues to support the controversial law, which some people call "Obamacare," but her two opponents in the election next week – Republican Thom Tillis and Libertarian Sean Haugh – back repealing it.

"I think, if a vote came to the Senate floor to repeal 'Obamacare,' I would vote for it," Tillis said. "It's one of the largest tax increases – single tax increases – ever implemented in the history of the UNITED STATES at a time when our economy is still staggering."

"I think Obamacare is totally the wrong direction," Haugh said.

Hagan said congressional Republicans have been "playing political games" with the law since it was adopted, and she said the time has come to stop and move forward with it, making adjustments as needed.

"Don't take us back to a time when seniors would pay more for prescription drugs, women would pay more for coverage," she said. "In particular, if you had a pre-existing condition – and everybody knows somebody who has a pre-existing condition – those people were out of luck (before the Affordable Care Act)."

Even though Tillis and Haugh want the law repealed, Tillis doesn't want it demolished, saying there are parts of the law he likes.

"I believe that dependent children under the age of 26 should be allowed to be on their parents' health care plan," he said. "I believe that pre-existing conditions, it probably makes sense to do it in a way that people can immediately get health care coverage and potentially avoid catastrophic loss from chronic conditions."

Haugh is not so generous when it comes to the law.

"It's basically corporate welfare for insurance companies and other medical-related industries," he said. "We can streamline a lot of the bureaucracy and actually make it work for both patients and providers."


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  • Kevin O'Donnell Oct 29, 2014
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    I just got my premium notice for 2015. A 12.5% rate hike! I thought the premiums were supposed to flatten out. Thanks Obama!!! I WAS an independent. I am now voting Republican.

  • miseem Oct 29, 2014

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    I especially liked that huge cost savings from not using federal funds for abortions. That alone will probably save a few million dollars a year. May end up with more maternal deaths, stillborn children, or children that live for only a few minutes or hours due to catastrophic birth defects, but hey, you got to break some eggs to make an omelette. Or something.

    So even if we end up spending more money in the long run, at least it won't be spent on abortions.

  • jlhpcarew Oct 29, 2014

    Just got my new rate for 2015 from BC/BS. 25% INCREASE!!!! Last year it was 30%!! Before the ACA it averaged between 6-8% per year. What happened to savings of $2500 per family? What happened to rates decreasing? Thanks for making it harder on the middle class Hagan!!!

  • Doug Pawlak Oct 29, 2014
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    Not to mention that they never seem to put their "plans" up for an actual vote.

  • Atheistinafoxhole Oct 29, 2014

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    I debunked this in one of your previous posts, but ok, here we go.

    First, why aren't Republicans talking about the American Healthcare Reform act on the campaign trail right now?

    Next, here is just one example of the "plan":
    "Safeguards individuals with pre-existing conditions from being discriminated against purchasing health insurance by bolstering state-based high risk pools and extending HIPAA guaranteed availability protections."

    Do you know how the HIPAA "protections" for pre existing conditions work? One must be "continually insured" in order for those protections to apply. What if you were born with a pre existing condition and/or have never been insured before?

    The rest is just more deregulation (think of deregulation as ENRON or Bank Bailouts), medical malpractice "reform" (read, limits rights of victims of malpractice) and the standard GOP talking point.

    Notably absent from this "plan" are any actual policies. Why?

  • Atheistinafoxhole Oct 29, 2014

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    Then explain why so many Republican amendments were accepted into the PPACA during the legislative process - why did the GOP bother with amendments if they were really agains it? Adding amendments to a bill they "profess" to be against is not only counterintuitive, but also indicates tacit agreement.

  • European American Oct 29, 2014

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    And you let the NC GOP pass all their harmful laws?

  • Atheistinafoxhole Oct 29, 2014

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    Actually, I just checked and the link works fine for me, perhaps user error (I'll repost just to be sure).

    [url]http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pacific_Research_Institute/url]Here is a little more info from the link:

    "PRI has received over $1.6 million in donations from the Koch family foundations since 1986, $1.5 million from the Koch conduits DonorsTrust and Donors Capital Fund, and millions from other right-wing foundations, including the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the Searle Freedom Trust, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation."

    So, the article you used as a source was produced by this 501(c)3 organization that is linked to, and funded by, ALEC and other right wing conservative groups.

    So, it is not the "media" (in this case Forbes) that is biased, it the author of the article. Forbes simply carried the "Op-Ed" piece.

    A little research is easy if one is truly interested in knowing the truth.

  • Doug Pawlak Oct 29, 2014
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    The republican plan IS the status quo because they refuse to present a plan and actually vote on an alternative. Anybody can list some ideas on a web page. Secondly, WHO hasn't been debunked except by conservative OPINION articles but that doesn't even address the other studies that repeat the same thing. You can't just ignore what you don't want to be true. Every study says the same thing: We have the most expensive and inefficient healthcare system. We don't get the best results. You can quibble about how WHO ranked the countries but unless you address the fundamental flaws I just mentioned, you're just being dishonest. Why? Is your political allegiance more importnat than doing what's best?

  • lopo Oct 29, 2014

    Wait until after the elections and one will see how much more they have to pay for health care. Keep voting democract.