'Super-slow growth' ahead on jobs, NCSU economist warns

Posted October 29, 2010


— Any joy that the unemployment situation improved based on new September data is premature, warns N.C. State University economist Dr. Michael Walden.

“I'm afraid we've entered a new phase of the economy - from slow growth to super-slow growth,” Walden told on Friday after analyzing new data. ‘This isn't another recession - the so-called double dip - but it does mean we're effectively moving only sideways.”

East Carolina University economist Dr. James Kleckley concurs.

"When I look at the [seasonally adjusted] data, I see that N.C. has gained 35,300 jobs since December, but 22,200 have been in government," Kleckley told LTW and "So like Mike says, the economy is not growing as much as we would hope.

"I think that we are growing slowly," he added. " You probably could call it a sideways drift upwards."

The state Employment Security Commission reported that the jobless rate in the Triangle fell to 7.5 percent last month from 8 percent in August. Statewide, unemployment fell in 97 of 100 counties and all 14 major metropolitan areas.

The overall unemployment rate fell to 9.1 percent from 9.7 percent the previous month, but the ESC noted that the figure is not seasonally adjusted. Economists generally consider the seasonally adjust number to be more accurate in measuring the actual jobs picture.

"I think that any unadjusted rate can be misleading," Kleckley said of the ESC data. "First, you can only compare it to other unadjusted numbers (i.e., you should not compare unadjusted counties to the seasonally adjusted state number). Second, the only appropriate period-to-period comparison is to the previous year (September to September).

"When you seasonally adjust, you remove the seasonal factors from the information. Then you can compare any one month to any other," he added.

Seasonally adjust rates are higher

Numbers as adjusted for seasonal factors by James Kleckley, director of Business Research, and economists at East Carolina University tell a different story.

In the Raleigh-Durham-Cary-Chapel Hill metro area, unemployment remained unchanged in September from August at 7.8 percent.

In Raleigh-Cary, the adjusted rate was the same as the previous month at 8.1. percent.

In Durham-Chapel Hill, the rate also was identical at 7.1 percent.

The adjust statewide rate fell slightly to 9.6 from 9.7 percent.

More people stop looking for work

Walden pointed out that one factor affecting the rate were either people dropping out of the workforce and therefore no longer measured statistically. Plus, job growth occurred primarily in the government sector.

“September was not a good month for the job market in North Carolina,” Walden said.

“Even though the headline unemployment rate dropped, this was only because of the large number of unemployed workers who dropped out of the labor force, and therefore aren't counted as unemployed,” he explained.

ESC data shows that the number of people in the work force fell by more than 31,000 while the jobs total increased by just over 4,000.

Governments add 20,000 jobs in metro areas

Meanwhile, government sector jobs increased by 20,000 across the 14 metro areas while the private sector lost jobs.

“The only substantial job gains were in local government - specifically local schools,” Walden said. “Most private sector categories shed jobs.”

The professional and businesses sectors added 1,500 jobs across the 14 largest metros, but at the same time manufacturing fell by some 1,400 and information related employment dropped by 300.

In the Triangle, job growth of 2,200 jobs in Durham-Chapel Hill and 500 in Raleigh-Cary came largely through 4,300 government positions.

Last week after the statewide ESC data report was issued, Walden also cautioned against belief that the jobs picture is improving.

Referring to the declining size of the job force, Walden noted:

“We think most of these are ‘discouraged workers’ who have stopped looking for work and therefore aren't officially counted as unemployed. Based on the household survey, the number of jobs [in N.C.] actually declined by 6,665 in September.”

Walden noted that the survey of employers did show growth yet added a couple of caveats.

“The second jobs survey - the ‘payroll survey’ - did show an increase in jobs of 10,100, but 9,600 of these were in government,” he explained. “Leisure and hospitality was the largest private sector job gainer. However, seven of the 10 private sector industry categories registered a drop in jobs.”

Whether North Carolina's job situation improves depends on the rest of the global economy, Kleckley said.

"The slow growth in N.C. will continue until the nation begins to grow more quickly," he explained. "We certainly should continue all economic development efforts, but the single largest influence of growth is the national (and now global) economy."



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  • gswalker51 Oct 29, 2010

    In addition to hating this racist economy, I should add that I don't condone racism, or any -ism for that matter. Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me." Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people.

  • computer trainer Oct 29, 2010

    Add some smoke and mirrors and EVERYTHING will be WONDERFUL. OH wait,we need those rose colored glasses, too!!

  • gswalker51 Oct 29, 2010

    Really? Which part did you struggle with? The part where I mentioned how something like the US "economy" (the complex and impersonal production, distribution and consumption of goods and services) could be "racist"? Or, was it when I praised Obama's clueless or intentionally destructive economic policies? How 'bout this...the most pathetic aspect of racism is people who still hide behind it.

  • PanthersFan45 Oct 29, 2010

    "The only thing funnier than my comments is how nobody picked up on the sarcasm"

    It says a lot about you, if you have to bring up race, even if joking about it. At least you advertised to everyone in here what kind of person you are when it comes to race, I respect your honesty.

  • working for deadbeats Oct 29, 2010

    "The only thing funnier than my comments is how nobody picked up on the sarcasm."

    You need to make it a little clearer, because many people on here actualy believe that.

  • gswalker51 Oct 29, 2010

    The only thing funnier than my comments is how nobody picked up on the sarcasm.

  • PanthersFan45 Oct 29, 2010

    This economy has nothing to do with race, but it does have everything to do with a president who is pushing through every anti-business legislation before him. I'd like to see him succeed, I really would. It's not the republican's to blame either because he is getting blank checkss with a majority of democrats in the house and senate voting for his proposals to stimulate. Everything cruises through and is passed, even when all republicans vote against it in unity. If this economy is a racist economy than you better take a harder look at what the democratic party is really about ... it's THEIR passed legislation at work right now, keep that in mind. If you don't like it you have Tuesday to change things ...... take it or leave it !

  • working for deadbeats Oct 29, 2010

    Super slow growth is spin for none at all.

    Hope and change!! Who's got some left?

  • redwolfone Oct 29, 2010

    How about flowing like glass slow. Glass flows, very, very, very slowly. I agree, “super” doesn’t give it the grammatical nuance required to convey the idea properly. :-)

  • working for deadbeats Oct 29, 2010

    "This economy continues to be so racist and unwilling to accept a black President." gswalker

    Golly gee willikers, I can't imaine why racism still exists. This statement really shows WHO is racist and it's not the people who are against Obama's policies.