Economy grows in 3Q, but two Triangle economists question meaning

Posted October 29, 2009
Updated October 30, 2009

— The economy grew at a 3.5 percent pace in the third quarter, the best showing in two years, fueled by government-supported spending on cars and homes. It's the strongest signal yet that the economy has entered a new, though fragile, phase of recovery and that the worst recession since the 1930s has ended.

However, two Triangle economists expressed reservations about just what the statistics indicate, given the acknowledged impact of government spending and tax incentives.

"Seriously, all we did was blow up G [government] like a giant helium flying saucer, with no balloon boy in it.," wrote Duke economics professor Michael Munger in a personal blog. "The 3.5% 'growth' is fake. It's all G.

"Ask yourself: why is this a 'jobless recovery?' Why aren't consumers going back to the stores, if this is a real recovery? Answer: it is NOT a real recovery," added Munger, who ran as a libertarian for governor in North Carolina last year.

(Munger's blog has been reprinted in Local Tech Wire.)

North Carolina State University economist Michael Walden also was skeptical.

"The overall rate of growth in GDP was in line with economists'
expectation," Walden told and Local Tech Wire "The big concern is whether this growth is sustainable.

"The major reasons behind the increase in the nation's output were additional federal spending, a surge in exports due to the lower valued dollar, a replenishment of inventories, and an increase in vehicle production due to the 'cash for clunkers' program.

" While this growth may very well continue into the fourth quarter, in order to be repeated into 2010 we will need greater private spending from consumers and businesses," he added.

But the private sector may lag, Walden said.

" With consumers still trying to reduce their high debt loads
- a process that could take years - the robust growth we saw in the third quarter likely won't continue into next year."

Going forward, many analysts expect the pace of the budding recovery to be plodding due to rising unemployment and continuing difficulties by both consumers and businesses to secure loans.

"This welcome milestone is just another step, and we still have a long road to travel until the economy is fully recovered," said Christina Romer, President Barack Obama's chief economist. "It will take sustained, robust ... growth to bring the unemployment rate down substantially. Such a decline in unemployment is, of course, what we are all working to achieve."

The much-awaited turnaround reported Thursday by the Commerce Department ended the streak of four straight quarters of contracting economic activity, the first time that's happened on records dating to 1947.

It also marked the first increase since the spring of 2008, when the economy experienced a short-lived uptick in growth.

The third-quarter's performance - the strongest since right before the country fell into recession in December 2007 - was slightly better than the 3.3 percent growth rate economists expected.

Noting the 3.5 percent GDP figure, Council of Economic Advisers chair Christina Romer added: "This is in stark contrast to the decline of 6.4 percent annual rate just two quarters ago. Indeed, the two-quarter swing in the rate of growth of 9.9 percentage points was the largest since 1980. Analysis by both the Council of Economic Advisers and a wide range of private and public-sector forecasters indicates that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 contributed between 3 and 4 percentage points to real GDP growth in the third quarter. This suggests that in the absence of the Recovery Act, real GDP would have risen little, if at all, this past quarter.”

Jobs remain a challenge, she added.

“After four consecutive quarters of decline, positive GDP growth is an encouraging sign that the U.S. economy is moving in the right direction,"Romber said in a statement issued by the White House. "However, this welcome milestone is just another step, and we still have a long road to travel until the economy is fully recovered. The turnaround in crucial labor market indicators, such as employment and the unemployment rate, typically occurs after the turnaround in GDP. And it will take sustained, robust GDP growth to bring the unemployment rate down substantially. Such a decline in unemployment is, of course, what we are all working to achieve.”

Armed with cash from government support programs, consumers led the rebound in the third quarter, snapping up cars and homes.

Consumer spending on big-ticket manufactured goods soared at an annualized rate of 22.3 percent in the third quarter, the most since the end of 2001. The jump largely reflected car purchases spurred by the government's Cash for Clunkers program that offered a rebate of up to $4,500 to buy new cars and trade in old gas guzzlers.

The housing market also turned a corner in the summer. Spending on housing projects jumped at an annualized pace of 23.4 percent, the largest jump since 1986. It was the first time since the end of 2005 that spending on housing was positive. Purchases of home furnishings and appliances also added to economic growth.

The government's $8,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers supported the housing rebound. Congress is considering extending the credit, which expires on Nov. 30.

The collapse of the housing market led the country into the recession. Rotten mortgage securities spiraled into a banking crisis. Home foreclosures surged. The sector's return to good health is a crucial ingredient to a sustained economic recovery.

A top concern is whether the recovery can continue after government supports are gone.

Many economists predict economic activity won't grow as much in the months ahead as the bracing impact of Obama's $787 billion package of increased government spending and tax cuts fades.

The National Association for Business Economics thinks growth will slow to a 2.4 percent pace in the current October-December quarter. It expects a 2.5 percent growth rate in the first three months of next year, although other economists believe the pace will be closer to 1 percent.

Romer, in remarks last week said the government's stimulus spending already had its biggest impact and probably won't contribute to significant growth next year.

Brisk spending by the federal government played into the third-quarter turnaround. Federal government spending rose at a rate of 7.9 percent in the third quarter, on top of a 11.4 percent growth rate in the second quarter.

In other encouraging developments, businesses boosted spending on equipment and software at a 1.1 percent pace in the third quarter, the first increase in nearly two years.

Third-quarter activity also was helped by increased sales of U.S.-made goods to customers overseas, as economies in Asia, Europe and elsewhere improved. The cheaper dollar is aiding U.S. exporters, making their goods less expensive to foreign buyers. Exports of U.S. goods soared at an annualized rate of 21.4 percent in the third quarter, the most since the final quarter of 1996.

Businesses, meanwhile, reduced their stockpiles of goods less in the third quarter, after slashing them at a record pace in the second quarter. With inventories at rock-bottom levels, even the smallest increase in demand probably will prompt factories to boost production. This restocking of depleted inventories is expected to help sustain the recovery in the coming months, economists said.

Even with the third-quarter improvement, the economy isn't out of the woods yet.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and members of Obama's economics team have warned that the nascent recovery won't be robust enough to prevent the unemployment rate - now at a 26-year high of 9.8 percent - from rising into next year.

Economists say the jobless rate probably nudged up to 9.9 percent in October and will go as high as 10.5 percent around the middle of next year before declining gradually. The government is scheduled to release the October jobless rate report next week.

The Labor Department said Thursday that newly laid-off workers seeking unemployment insurance fell by 1,000 to a seasonally-adjusted 530,000. Analysts expected a drop to 521,000.

The number of people continuing to claim benefits, fell by 148,000 to 5.8 million, steeper than analysts expected. Those figures lag initial claims by a week.

With joblessness growing and wages dipping slightly in the third quarter, consumers are expected to turn more restrained in the months ahead. That would put a much heavier burden on America's businesses to keep the recovery going.

"We're beginning to crawl out a very deep hole," said economist Ken Mayland, president of ClearView Economics. "It will take time to get back to normal again and there are questions about how consumers will hold up in the months ahead. But I think the recovery will be sustained."

To foster the recovery, the Fed is expected to keep a key bank lending rate at record low near zero when it meets next week and probably will hold it there into next year.

With the economy on the mend, the Fed has slowed down some key emergency support programs but doesn't want to pull the plug until the recovery is on firm footing.

Even if the economy climbs back into positive territory in the third quarter, it will be up to another group to declare the recession over. The National Bureau of Economic Research, a panel of academics, is in charge of dating the beginning and ends of recessions. It usually makes it determinations well after the fact.


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  • colliedave Oct 29, 2009

    Even AP-Obama reported the job creation numbers were bogus. One cannot compare normal private sector growth with gobberment growth based on borrowed money.

  • craziecrafter Oct 29, 2009

    They need to get a grip of the REAL WORLD. My husband is still UNEMPLOYED....

  • ckblackm Oct 29, 2009

  • OSX Oct 29, 2009

    Now these guys have it figured out !!!! I have thought the same thing and it is nice to hear these guys say the same. This recession isn't over, it is just delayed. I seriously think they are hoping for a Big Christmas season as an economy booster. I know I am going to lay pretty low this year.

  • affirmativediversity Oct 29, 2009

    Walden and Munger need to be assigned to a Hope and Change reeducation center ASAP! per elvisdaisy2


    Don't worry someone will report Munger's blog to the Whitehouse Snitch Line!

  • elvisdaisy2 Oct 29, 2009

    Walden and Munger need to be assigned to a Hope and Change reeducation center ASAP!

  • nufsaid Oct 29, 2009

    "By the way there hasn't been any change in the way economists measure the economy and measure economic growth or shrinkage, it's pretty ignorant to say that current economic indicators are a lie coming out of the white house.

    But the "change" is how this administration has used spending money we don't have to inflate the indicators. Step away from the Obama altar and look at all the facts.

  • livinggood2 Oct 29, 2009

    This is a false Goverment overstatment of stimulus,when will all of you wake up.Heres is some more news I have just learned. Today, U.S. Congressman Walter B. Jones (NC-03) sent a letter to President Barack Obama inquiring why Commerce Secretary Gary Locke was given authority to authorize the export of United States missile technology to the People’s Republic of China, and asking the President to disclose the nature and extent of conversations about equipment and technology transfers with Chinese Communist Party and government officials.

  • hcain73 Oct 29, 2009

    government grew, not small business. work in it and ull find that out....

  • affirmativediversity Oct 29, 2009

    "Seriously, all we did was blow up G [government] like a giant helium flying saucer, with no balloon boy in it.," wrote Duke economics professor Michael Munger in a personal blog. "The 3.5% 'growth' is fake. It's all G."