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State Rep. Mark Brody, R-District 55
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Bill would put licenses for illegal immigrants on hold

Published: 2013-02-21 11:51:00
Updated: 2013-02-21 12:41:55

Rep. Mark Brody, R-Union, and three fellow Republicans have filled a bill that would put a moratorium on a state program that issues licenses to some drivers who are in the U.S. illegally.

State transportation officials have announced they will start issuing driver’s licenses and ID cards on March 25 to some people who entered the country illegally. Created by a presidential executive order, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program blocks deportation of and grants work permits to those who were brought to the country illegally as young children.

House Bill 141 would put the state license program on hold until at least June 15.

"The executive order is controversial," Brody said Thursday morning. "We had no say in it."

The legislature, he said, should have time to study the matter and  submit bills address the program.

One possibility, he said, would be that supporters of the program might file a bill to redesign the license. As currently announced, identity cards issued to those in the DACA program would be vertical, expire on the date their deferral period ends and carry a message indicating that it confers no legal status upon the holder.

“North Carolina should not be making it harder for aspiring citizens to integrate and contribute to our communities by branding them with a second-class driver’s license,” Raul Pinto, a lawyer with the ACLU, said in a news release.

The release wasn't issued in response to the pending legislation.

The moratorium, Brody said, could also give opponents of issuing the special licenses time to pass a bill instructing Division of Motor Vehicles to end the practice entirely. 

"It doesn't set any policy whatsoever. It just gives everybody time to look at it," Brody said.

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Oddly, you've repeatedly ignored the FACT that the people who ar getting licenses are ALLOWED to stay here, and LEGALLY WORK, under the government program that have signed up for.

It's almost like you have decided on an opinion and no amount of facts proving you wrong will alter it. per junkmail5

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Actually your are talking out of your rear orafice. These people remain "illegal"...Obama's "EXECUTIVE ORDER" is just that an "ORDER" from the chief "EXECUTIVE" to personnel under his purview to TEMPORARILY IGNORE THE LAW OF THE LAND (ie. not enforce it)...

An Executive Order is not a CHANGE IN THE LAW...we are, after all a REPUBLIC not a MONARCHY!

"A drivers license is not a privilege of citizenship. There's lots of non-citizens who legally have one.

Correct but they should not". - NCOuterBanks69

So by your standards a German student in the US on a education Visa should not be able to get a license to drive? Odd they let me get one in Europe.

Or how about co-workers who live here from Europe on an work Visa for a company such as Caterpillar? Now how about India? Or China?

Go ahead and admit your problem is with Hispanics. That is not an immigration issue. It's a racism and bigotry issue.

The reason you don't give licenses to illegals is because it's enabling. - aspenstreet1717

yes, it enables them to actually follow the law... how horrible!

It also enables them to go to the jobs they are LEGALLY ENTITLED TO WORK AT under this program.

“North Carolina should not be making it harder for aspiring citizens to integrate and contribute to our communities by branding them with a second-class driver’s license,” Raul Pinto, a lawyer with the ACLU, said in a news release.

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Nor should North Carolina be legally obligated to provide ID to citizens of Mexico or any other sovereign nation!

If these individuals want a North Carolina license then they should have to do what every other person in this state is required to do...PROVE LEGAL RESIDENCE!!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong BUT isn't an "Executive Order" limited to THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH or its departments and/or employees...since when is the North Carolina DOT/Driver's License Division a member of the EXECUTIVE BRANCH?

Nice in South so you have never had anyone in your family hit by someone who has no license or insurance? At least they could get insurance with a license.

May... I was hit a couple of months ago by a lady with no insurance... but am 120% for these people geting license, jobs, rights, taxed, amnesty and anything else we as citizens are entitled to

Im going to go out this weekend, can you libs tell me which laws I can choose to break? Because it seems like if you dont agree with them you just don't follow them.

"ANYONE, who supports the right of an illegal alien has to first understand that no illegal alien is entitled to American rights."-JohnnyVoodoo

LOL you are so totally wrong about that! Courts have ruled over and over that illegal aliens have the same basic constitutional rights that all Americans have, including due process, right public education and so on.

So who are YOU to deny THEIR rights?

The problem is the program exist because of a questionable executive order going around congress. Something that is being looked at for the legality of it -iamsiam1096

really? in what, specific, way is the "legality being looked at"?

because even Mitt Romney said he'd honor the grants of the program if elected.

It's currently a valid government program. States don't get to ignore that in hopes some day it'll change.

We have 3 branches for checks and balances- iamsiam1096

We do! and far as I know there's nothing pending before the courts about the program not being legal.

And nothing has passed either house in congress suggesting it's not legal either.

So to reiterate these are people brought here as children, who have known no other home or country, who want to LEGALLY work (ie pay taxes and everything!) and the federal government has approved them to do exactly that under this program.

Including the whole legal to work part.

No reason to deny DLs.

. But hey say whatever makes you feel good, that's why conservative approval ratings are in the toilet now. "Stupid Party Strikes again" shaun2xlife

Yep get complacent and think you got it all under control. Funny thing is the unemployment is still terrible because Barry is more worried about this penney ante social isssue because he has no idead how to create jobs just dependency.

Many people seem to be forgetting that these were children that were brought over by their parents.

Yes, they are illegal immigrants, but they didn't know that when their parents were bringing them.

I'm not sure I agree with giving them licenses or not. I'd rather have them legally licensed to drive and thus more likely to have insurance than I would having them drive anyway without the proper tests taken and without insurance.

But, do you think these children had a choice in the matter of becoming illegal immigrants?

"Fine, let them drive without having taken the test, without insurance and crash into you...dumb move for us citizens"

What in the WORLD are you talking about? Besides the citizenship part, these immigrants would have to satisfy ALL of the other requirements for a DL: insurance, written test, and road test. They would be held to the same standard as US citizens in those respects.

good grief ... these folks grew up here. they'd be foreigners outside the USA.

Incorrect they are not citizens of this country that is for sure. Try bringing a child in mexico and see if they will be granted citizenship.

Create a bill to cancel any program giving licenses to illegal aliens. The citizens and government of the United States must give illegal aliens no quarter.

ANYONE, who supports the right of an illegal alien has to first understand that no illegal alien is entitled to American rights-JohnnyVoodo

so you're wrong right out of the gate!

There are rights specifically for US citizens.

There's also rights for anyone physically in the US.

They're not the same rights, but many overlap.

Oddly, you've repeatedly ignored the FACT that the people who ar getting licenses are ALLOWED to stay here, and LEGALLY WORK, under the government program that have signed up for.

It's almost like you have decided on an opinion and no amount of facts proving you wrong will alter it.

"In many countries - a license is proof of Citizenship - Oh wait - it says so on the I-9 that Americans have to fill out to have LEGAL employment."

Wrong. A U.S. driver's license does not constitute proof of citizenship for the I-9 form. It's proof of identity only.

A drivers license is not a privilege of citizenship. There's lots of non-citizens who legally have one.

Correct but they should not.

"Some posters here seem to think that a DL gives some great citizenship privileges, it only allows them to drive. I would make LEOs' job easier, just cite for citeable violations instead of hauling to a magistrate." - wa4mjf

considering that a drivers license currently serves as a valid form of proof of residence for voter registration, it could easily end up giving certain citizenship rights unintentionally.

these legislators are racists

pchuck88..........i'm interested in knowing why you would say that.

why is it that the GOP folk's cite amendments all day long but when it comes to the 14th Amendment brought forth by a Republican POTUS they rebuke it adnauseum?

Constitutional-Defender The country understands totally what illegal means, it is the politicians in Washington that do not understand their own laws. I will give this Republican legislature here in NC credit for one thing, they don't seem to be afraid to take on the President and his executive orders. I hope they are careful Arizona and Alabama tried and that didn't work out too well.

The reason you don't give licenses to illegals is because it's enabling. States that have toughened their laws have seen illegals leave. If an illegal cannot get a job, license, welfare,free medical care etc they leave.

Those of you who support this are hypocrites - house you live in, farm vegetables & tobacco that are harvested, many restaurants you eat in....you are all supporting this labor pool...so you don't want to do the cheap & difficult jobs, you want things to cost less...then you kick them out of the country....

"Here's a thought.....Native americans take back their land and tell every so called american, sorry you've been here your whole life, but go back to europe or where ever your family arrived from illeglly." - ssvoiceofsanity

fair enough. who is going to tell that to the "native" americans that actually came here just as illegally? don't get too caught up on that word "native"...they are no more native than the european settlers. we all came here from some where else.

Brody and his buddies are such a disappointment. The people that will be granted the ok for licenses are those minors that were brought here illegally by adults. We need a plan for this growth of illegals. They should be paying taxes and insurance like everyone else. What more do they need to look over. They just are against this for one because it involves President Obama and the other because they live in the 18th century. The Republicans will have to come up with some plan or their party will be extinct nationally soon. To get a NC drivers license, insurance is required so this would benefit most of us who prefer not to be hit by a uninsured motorists.

However, I still disagree with the idea that the illegals (children brought here or otherwise) should not automatically get licenses. Conservative

Correction - I used double negative - meant to say "I still disagree with the idea that the illegals (children brought here or otherwise) should automatically get licenses."

Why is the NC Legislature so locked into changing the Federal Policy's- Vote Brody out and let him go raise Pigs dlp1952

Answer: Because NC legislature (correctly) believes that issuing drivers licenses is not good policy! Next question?

lol... imaging that.. the fed not allowing you to continue the racial status quo in the south NiceNSmooth

@Nice - I am sorry but exactly are you talking about?

If you're Illegal, you don't have any right to a license. Driving is a privilege not a right. If you don't believe me, drive while your license is revoked and see what happens. I spent a week in jail and I'm a citizen.

And yet you say nothing about Barrys now defunct Jobs Council which never even had a meeting. Why is that? Crumps Br0ther

@Crumps - thank you consistently catching the hypocrisy of the liberals! Your responses help a lot with alleviating my BP rise when I read some the comments on GOLO.

About time, we need to stop giving the country away.

Nice in South so you have never had anyone in your family hit by someone who has no license or insurance? At least they could get insurance with a license.

i agree there is no valid reason for denying them licenses

Once again legislating themselves into extinction. Can't wait.

Jobs Council which never even had a meeting. Crumps Br0ther

Funny the CEO's from his jobs council admitted they completed 90% of the initiatives they set out to accomplish. But hey say whatever makes you feel good, that's why conservative approval ratings are in the toilet now. "Stupid Party Strikes again"

junkmail5 said The aliens under discussion HAVE ENROLLED IN A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM THAT LETS THEM STAY HERE. The problem is the program exist because of a questionable executive order going around congress. Something that is being looked at for the legality of it and I have no problem with the state having a moratorium till that issue is solved and congress puts forth immigration reform. We have 3 branches for checks and balances. I have a huge problem with those that broke the law (even if it was the parents at some point the child is old enough to go and do it the right way instead of perpetuating the situation). People come here legally everyday and it is a slap in their face for this "special" group to get special treatment for their illegal actions.

good grief ... these folks grew up here. they'd be foreigners outside the USA.

The only license they should be issued is a bus driver's license so they can all go back!

ANYONE, who supports the right of an illegal alien has to first understand that no illegal alien is entitled to American rights. And to suggest otherwise, is a slap in the face to each and every LEGAL immigrant who has took the time and made the effort to do it the right way in order to come here. Illegal immigrants should be deported and made to get in line like the rest of those before them. I welcome any and all people from other countries who want to come here...as long as it's through the legal channels. Period.

I don't see any harm in it. It is for two years and makes sure tested folks are driving and that it all that it lets them do. Some posters here seem to think that a DL gives some great citizenship privileges, it only allows them to drive. I would make LEOs' job easier, just cite for citeable violations instead of hauling to a magistrate.

Only legal citizens or those following the legal path to get that way should enjoy the privileges of citizenship.- klambert2

A drivers license is not a privilege of citizenship. There's lots of non-citizens who legally have one.

Raul Pinto, if thes people are "...aspiring citizens to integrate and contribute.." then they should be doing it legally. There is a way, but they want to take she short cut.

Here's a thought.....Native americans take back their land and tell every so called american, sorry you've been here your whole life, but go back to europe or where ever your family arrived from illeglly.

lol...sounds great where can I vote for that?

"The executive order is controversial," Brody said Thursday morning. "We had no say in it."

lol... imaging that.. the fed not allowing you to continue the racial status quo in the south

Illegal aliens should go before our court to accept responsibilty of breaking the law when they came here...do your time and pay your fine...then let's talk about getting a driver's license and becoming a U.S. citizen. Comprenda?

This is only for persons brought here a juveniles, who would not be prosecuted in a court anyway? Compredes?

I will agree to the comment for the native Indians to say you came here ruined our land and stole it from us,killed our women and children and then let every tom dick and harry flee the parts of the world they can not stand and make OUR land crowded and not worth living in.And for those that live out west in the open lands,enjoy them now,because the influx of people into the US will take every last bit of it and turn it into malls shopping centers and housing complexes.Said by a half Cherokee...

my2cents-justsaying. You have it right. Some people do not understand the 'illegal' part. I have no problem with legal immigrants, my grandparents came over on a boat from Italy legally, learned English and became citizens. We citizens obey the law and anyone entering our country should.

I so hope this passes. This kind of thing is way overdue. Illegal immigration and the resources spent on them is out of control.

How can an illegal have anything legal in this country?

bigdaddyfigs...having a state issues license, or ID, does not mean that you automatically have insurance nor does it mean you will not have a crash. Check your car insurance...that is why you carry uninsured/under-insured motorist coverage. If you are inclined to ignore the least of the laws...then what makes you think that issuing a license will set off a light bulb that they must comply with insurance requirements?

"Fine, let them drive without having taken the test, without insurance and crash into you...dumb move for us citizens"

So them having licenses is going to make them register their cars and pay issuance? Good luck with that.

Maybe we can change the laws so if someone without insurance damages your properly they have to work it off as indentured servants.

Want a license...get here legally. Only legal citizens or those following the legal path to get that way should enjoy the privileges of citizenship. I doubt Mexico will issue me a drivers license if I show up there illegally.

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