Log in to WRAL.com with one click using your favorite social network:
OR
Log in using your WRAL.com account:



Wrong email/password combination.

Forgot password?

Register with WRAL.com using your favorite social network:
OR
Register for a WRAL.com account using our web form.

5:28 p.m. • 5-19-13

Weather Forecast for Raleigh

  • Mon: Thunderstorm.
    • Hi: 76° F
  • Tue: Thunderstorm.
    • Hi: 81° F
  • Wed: Partly Cloudy.
    • Hi: 86° F

Other Locations

> 7 Day Forecast

Doppler Image
@NCCapitol
State Rep. Mark Brody, R-District 55
print friendly

Bill would put licenses for illegal immigrants on hold

Published: 2013-02-21 11:51:00
Updated: 2013-02-21 12:41:55

Rep. Mark Brody, R-Union, and three fellow Republicans have filled a bill that would put a moratorium on a state program that issues licenses to some drivers who are in the U.S. illegally.

State transportation officials have announced they will start issuing driver’s licenses and ID cards on March 25 to some people who entered the country illegally. Created by a presidential executive order, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program blocks deportation of and grants work permits to those who were brought to the country illegally as young children.

House Bill 141 would put the state license program on hold until at least June 15.

"The executive order is controversial," Brody said Thursday morning. "We had no say in it."

The legislature, he said, should have time to study the matter and  submit bills address the program.

One possibility, he said, would be that supporters of the program might file a bill to redesign the license. As currently announced, identity cards issued to those in the DACA program would be vertical, expire on the date their deferral period ends and carry a message indicating that it confers no legal status upon the holder.

“North Carolina should not be making it harder for aspiring citizens to integrate and contribute to our communities by branding them with a second-class driver’s license,” Raul Pinto, a lawyer with the ACLU, said in a news release.

The release wasn't issued in response to the pending legislation.

The moratorium, Brody said, could also give opponents of issuing the special licenses time to pass a bill instructing Division of Motor Vehicles to end the practice entirely. 

"It doesn't set any policy whatsoever. It just gives everybody time to look at it," Brody said.

Read More Posts from this Blog

175 Comments


WRAL.com welcomes your comments on this story. All comments are moderated prior to publication based on our posting guidelines. Please review them prior to posting and if your message is not approved.

This story is closed for comments. Comments on WRAL.com news stories are accepted and moderated between the hours of 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. Monday through Friday.


page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5
<prev    next>
sort order: oldest first | newest first

"These licenses will be vertical, not horizontal, and clearly state that the holder is an illegal alien and that they convey nothing but driving privileges." - wa4mjf

not under current law set to go into effect on march 25. illegals would get a license that looked just like anybody else's. the proposed law discussed in this article delays the enactment of that law by two months so that time would be allowed to consider various alternatives, including the vertical license alternative that you mentioned.

"Some posters here seem to think that a DL gives some great citizenship privileges, it only allows them to drive. I would make LEOs' job easier, just cite for citeable violations instead of hauling to a magistrate." - wa4mjf

-----------------------

A Driver's License/State Issued ID is a great deal more than just permission to drive!!! affirmativediversity

These licenses will be vertical, not horizontal, and clearly state that the holder is an illegal alien and that they convey nothing but driving privileges.

This penney ante social isssue because he has no idead how to create jobs just dependency.Crumps Br0ther

Oh you mean like gay marriage, possums & breast huh those are great job creators there. And kill the estate tax as well, and decline medicaid expansion even though the cost will prove to save in the long term. Ever heard of the phrase sleeping giant, be careful trying to run over the people cause sooner or later they will wake up.

Amen kbrianf I agree wholeheartedly with that and I am a white male too.

Let them drive legally and contribute positively to our society!

If anyone thinks that those opposed to illegal immigration are far more welcoming to legal Hispanic immigrants, I suspect that you are terribly mistaken. Though they argue vehemently that this is about legal vs. illegal, citizens vs. non-citizen, and rights vs. the lack thereof, the sad truth is that there is a dislike for Hispanics, or for anyone, really, that isn't majority. I've seen that dislike too many times and have heard waaaay too many derogatory comments about Hispanics that were, in fact, legal citizens. What is truly going on here is a deep, deep fear among majority populations - to which I belong - of one day losing that majority status. As a white male who has spent his life among the majority, I will admit that that is a sobering realization. But I cannot in my heart of hearts let my selfishness trump my humanity. We need immigration reform, yes, but we need to maintain our compassion and humanity above all else as we go about it.

Give them a driver's license.

Licenses create trackability, accountability, law-abidingness (as opposed to drivign illegally) and they improve the economy in that cars will be bought and insurance and tires and oil changes. I mean they are working. How should they get to work? Would you rather leave them unemployed and idle? Really people, think about it.

This is a hate issue for me....but not against a race at all. It's hate against people who have absolutely no right to take advantage of a system and it's people that are trying to take care of their own.

What a bunch of bigots.

In 10 years it won't be an issue any way since the immigrant populations will sway any votes that come up.

Remember were all immigrants here a couple hundred years ago so we are not more special than others trying to simply better themselves.

Are there not venues these illegals can take to correct their status legally? djhartm

That depends on which country you are from. People from some countries just plain aren't allowed to "legally" enter the US.

"It's currently a valid government program. States don't get to ignore that in hopes some day it'll change." - junkmail5

let's go ahead and clear the air about a critical component of the daca program. under this program, state's can legally continue to establish laws regarding eligibility for certain state benefits. one of those benefits are drivers licenses. north carolina is operating perfectly within the law if we decide to deny drivers licenses. - golorealist

Thank you for clarifying that, Obama's Executive order has NOTHING to do with states granting drivers licenses.

Hate, Hate, and more Hate! I certainly hope people are getting what they paid for.

We are not that is the problem.

So by your standards a German student in the US on a education Visa should not be able to get a license to drive? Odd they let me get one in Europe.

Or how about co-workers who live here from Europe on an work Visa for a company such as Caterpillar? Now how about India? Or China?

Go ahead and admit your problem is with Hispanics. That is not an immigration issue. It's a racism and bigotry issue.

I assume you were there legally then huh? Shocker....you didn't get the point. Anyone here illegally should not get one. But you can keep making exucses of why people think the correct way, maybe one day you will as well. There's hope yet.

Mitch, they are talking about people that were brought here illegally as "children".

Hate, Hate, and more Hate! I certainly hope people are getting what they paid for.

If they were "aspiring citizens" they would not be here illegally Mitch

Again- did you miss that these are people brought here as children?

they didn't wake up at age 2 and go "I'm a gonna break me some laws today!" and sneak into the country of their own initiative.

these are kids who grew up here. Deporting them would be sending them to a country they've never known and don't know anyone in, and in some cases don't even speak the language.

il·le·gal/ɪˈligəl/ Show Spelled [ih-lee-guhl] Show IPA adjective 1. forbidden by law or statute. 2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass. 4Strike

Not really, since the DACA program is _legal_ and nobody is challenging that in court.

and it allows these people to _legally_ work here.

Why don't you look up the definition of "legal" now?

May... I was hit a couple of months ago by a lady with no insurance... but am 120% for these people geting license, jobs, rights, taxed, amnesty and anything else we as citizens are entitled to

Some people never learn.

Yes there is...they are citizens of another sovereign nation who have displayed NO inclination to respect some very basic laws of ours- affirmativediversity

You mean besides having spent almost their entire life here, and applied to work here legally, and not violated any other law of any kind?

North Carolina should be under no obligation to issue ID to the citizens (legal residents) of any other country- affirmativediversity

they ALREADY DO THAT- all legal alien residents are "citizens of another country" and they get DLs from NC.

This is NOT a "program"- AD

Except, yes, it IS a program.

http://www.dhs.gov/deferred-action-childhood-arrivals

@Taffy Really, 'penalizing' the illegal children. Seriously?

Are there not venues these illegals can take to correct their status legally?

Oh, too much work I suppose.

Boo. :(

The overt lack of logic libs/dems/progressives display here is utterly astounding!

@Save IT Equating this situation to someone taking a child into a crime scene is not only an irrelevent, illogical comparison, it is downright absurd.

Seriously, is this how the left really thinks? If so, it is downright distrubing.

Kudos to Rep. Brody for enforcing the laws of this land!

As far as I'm concerned, if you are not an American citizen, you shouldn't be enjoying the benefits of being an American. To all the kids who are here illegally with your parents, all I can say is its a sad situation...one in which you should be complaining to your parents about and not expecting the government to make it an American problem. The more America makes these type citizen benefits available to people here illegally, the more people will want to come here illegally. This is true for public education, free medical care, and now colleges allowing entrance. I say no too.

Fine. Issue them a 2 year provisional license for the duration of their delayed prosecution period. Make them pass a driver's test, written and road, in english.

Indicate on the provisional license its limited duration and that it does not constitute any legality or rights beyond driving privilege.

Even O'bama's amnesty by royal decree only defers prosecution, it does not change their status.

Good ol' ACLU!! No wonder no one likes them.

If they were "aspiring citizens" they would not be here illegally

Finally, a politician has the intestinal fortitude to push back!

"LOL you are so totally wrong about that! Courts have ruled over and over that illegal aliens have the same basic constitutional rights that all Americans have, including due process, right public education and so on." Kaitlyn

Logic and common sense not withstanding.

"as I know there's nothing pending before the courts about the program not being legal" junkmail5

Maybe this will help:

il·le·gal/ɪˈligəl/ Show Spelled [ih-lee-guhl] Show IPA adjective 1. forbidden by law or statute. 2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.

You go North Carolina Republicans! Way to penalize the children for the decisions of their parents. The vast majority of these children have been education here in NC and/or are still going to school.Why penalize those who are trying to better themselves. This new batch of government hasn't done one single thing with a positive uplifting message. It's been beat down the people of this state time & time again.It's simply disgraceful!

I don't get what the big hoop laa is about a driver's license. There are all kinds of folks (citizen/non-citizens/perm-residents) that have no driver's license and drive any where they want, any time of day. It's just a plastic card that *IF* you get pulled over or in a check-point you have to show. Driving with no driver's license is only a misdemeanor unless your license has been revoked, which means you have to have a driver's license for it to be revoked.

On top of this, you either have to appear in court, pay the fine and cost of court, *OR* you can just ignore it and keep on driving until *IF AND WHEN* you get caught again.

No biggie! People are doing it all day in all states in all counties. What's all the hoop laa about again?

Looks like the republicans can't decide what to do. King Tata is giving and the general assembly is taking away.

Can't expect any better of Tata, he is filling DOT/DMV with his cronies from out of state, some with criminal records and no regard for NC's laws. I hope McCrory is happy with Tata and his constant bad press.

"Yes, they are illegal immigrants, but they didn't know that when their parents were bringing them."

Now they do. And instead of finding out what our laws require, some latina gets in front of a camera and demands a drivers license so she can go to her job at a law firm while Americans are unemployed. Emotional blackmail won't work.

Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County.(2011)In Texas, 54 percent of legal immigrants and 70 percent of illegal immigrants receive welfare assistance, with illegal immigrants generally receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children. Texas showed 61 percent of households headed by an immigrant utilizing at least one program.This is partly due to the large share of immigrants with low levels of education and their resulting low incomes, just what we need more stupid "Americans"

At some point the day the EBT stops working will happen, and when it does, run for cover.

Hello these kids/people are driving already. Some have bouight cars from Americans who charge them a fee and pay their car payment.This way americans or legals make huge money from elligals. I see it every day. Maybe I should start selling cars like that.LOL WAKE UP AMERICA

i have a friend brought here at age 11

And this bill brings jobs to our state and strengthens our economy how? Seems like some people have forgotten why they were sent to Raleigh.

According to state Highway Patrol troopers, Jesus Ortiz, an eighth grader at Red Oak Middle School, was crossing the road to get on a bus about 615 a.m. when he was hit by Nicolas Benitez, of Lancaster Store Road.

Ortiz has lacerations on his face and a broken leg but is expected to be OK.

The school bus was stopped and had its crossing stick down at the time Ortiz was hit, troopers said.

Bentiez was charged with driving with a revoked license, passing a stopped school bus and having unsafe tires.

Wonder if he was illegal too? Ask the ACLU if this is ok with them when things like this happens !!!

"It's currently a valid government program. States don't get to ignore that in hopes some day it'll change." - junkmail5

let's go ahead and clear the air about a critical component of the daca program. under this program, state's can legally continue to establish laws regarding eligibility for certain state benefits. one of those benefits are drivers licenses. north carolina is operating perfectly within the law if we decide to deny drivers licenses.

"But if someone breaks the law and comes into this country illegally, they'll be more than happy to issue you a license. Unbelievable... You can spin it anyway you want to, but that is the essence of this topic".

So if your parents took you into a bank they were robbing when you were 4 years old you should still be in prison and responsible for your actions at that age?

Now you know the "essence of this topic".

"Native americans take back their land..."

You mean the invaders from Siberia? Sure, if you can tell me which immigration laws were broken.

GLAD SOMEONE HAS SOME BRAINS, FINALLY.

You have to either show a passport or a birth certificate to get into Canada, all you need to show to get into America is a willingness to vote democrat

to aspenstreet who wrote "The reason you don't give licenses to illegals is because it's enabling. States that have toughened their laws have seen illegals leave. If an illegal cannot get a job, license, welfare,free medical care etc they leave."

No they don't Leave....they carjack you, they steal your a/c unit & sell it to the scrap dealer, they break into your home, they rob stores, and on and on....anything to survive. OR...we could facilitate them earning an honest living, and not having to resort to criminal activity. We have crime because people are poor....for whatever reason, but it's shortsighted to add to the reason list. Allow the kids to grow up, drive to school or a job, get an education, get an income they can live on.

A drivers license is not a privilege of citizenship. There's lots of non-citizens who legally have one.

-----------------

Yes there are BUT they have all respected the laws of this country and applied for and received LEGAL RESIDENCE STATUS. Also, their Driver's License/ID is only valid for as long as their greencard/visa...when it expires their license expires!

"And yet you say nothing about Barrys now defunct Jobs Council which never even had a meeting. Why is that?" -- Crumps Br0ther

Uhhhh ... maybe because it's not the topic, nor is it in any way RELATED to the topic of this article? Just a guess.

"Some posters here seem to think that a DL gives some great citizenship privileges, it only allows them to drive. I would make LEOs' job easier, just cite for citeable violations instead of hauling to a magistrate." - wa4mjf

-----------------------

A Driver's License/State Issued ID is a great deal more than just permission to drive!!!

The children of illegal immigrants shouldn't suffer because of their parents' poor choices. The adults can be denied for all I care. The children who grow up here have done nothing wrong to be treated like they are not human.

The door swings both ways. They can trek back to Mexico just as sure as they trekked here. Besides, lots of people move legally to other countries, to other cities, to other states without even blinking an eye. Illegal children need to stop whining and carry on...in their home country.

No reason to deny DLs. per junkmail5

------------------

Yes there is...they are citizens of another sovereign nation who have displayed NO inclination to respect some very basic laws of ours. If they wish to have a driver's license I suggest they get one from whatever country they have steadfastly maintained their allegiance to.

North Carolina should be under no obligation to issue ID to the citizens (legal residents) of any other country...just like they do not issue them to residents of other states!

Oddly, you've repeatedly ignored the FACT that the people who ar getting licenses are ALLOWED to stay here, and LEGALLY WORK, under the government program that have signed up for.

It's almost like you have decided on an opinion and no amount of facts proving you wrong will alter it.

junkmail5............the government program you're referring to is run/maintained by the same government that seems to be allowing illegal aliens to enter this country illegally. Thus, in my opinion, no government program equates or overrules a court of law proceeding over the case of someone breaking the law. From that perspective, yeah, i've decided on my opinion. If you want to support illegal immigration, that's fine with me. I'm just one of many who don't.

It's currently a valid government program. States don't get to ignore that in hopes some day it'll change. per junkmail5

---------------

Your understanding of the power and authority of the Executive Branch is obviously limited.

This is NOT a "program"...it is not a the LAW OF THE LAND...but instead an EXECUTIVE ORDER requiring certain federal employees to IGNORE THE LAW OF THE LAND under specified conditions and for a specified period of time.

The immigration status of these people remains that of ILLEGAL and in 2 years when the EXECUTIVE ORDER expires Immigration Enforcement will no longer ignore the law, as per the Executive Order!

I repeat: MAKE YOURSELF LEGAL AND YOU CAN ENJOY ALL THE RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES THAT ACCOMPANY LEGAL STATUS! Otherwise - adios. - Native NC gal

Could not have said it any better myself !

Will this be used as a way to vote without being a citizen?

page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5
<prev    next>
sort order: oldest first | newest first

Political Video Picks

 
  • Dozens of proposals failed to clear the House or Senate before the General Assembly's self-imposed "crossover" deadline this week for…

  • The scandal within the Internal Revenue Service was front and center Friday on Capitol Hill, as a committee heard testimony from…

  • The House and Ways Committee holds a hearing on the Internal Revenue Service's practice of targeting conservative political groups.…

  • The state House has released its own version of a tax reform bill that lower income and sales tax rates, but makes fewer sweeping…

  • The House approved several bills before the "crossover" deadline, including measures on abortion and social media privacy.

  • President Obama says he'll hold a Rose Garden news conference Thursday to answer questions about the scandal enveloping the Internal…