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Bill would put licenses for illegal immigrants on hold

Posted February 21, 2013

— Rep. Mark Brody, R-Union, and three fellow Republicans have filled a bill that would put a moratorium on a state program that issues licenses to some drivers who are in the U.S. illegally.

State transportation officials have announced they will start issuing driver’s licenses and ID cards on March 25 to some people who entered the country illegally. Created by a presidential executive order, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program blocks deportation of and grants work permits to those who were brought to the country illegally as young children.

House Bill 141 would put the state license program on hold until at least June 15.

"The executive order is controversial," Brody said Thursday morning. "We had no say in it."

The legislature, he said, should have time to study the matter and  submit bills address the program.

One possibility, he said, would be that supporters of the program might file a bill to redesign the license. As currently announced, identity cards issued to those in the DACA program would be vertical, expire on the date their deferral period ends and carry a message indicating that it confers no legal status upon the holder.

“North Carolina should not be making it harder for aspiring citizens to integrate and contribute to our communities by branding them with a second-class driver’s license,” Raul Pinto, a lawyer with the ACLU, said in a news release.

The release wasn't issued in response to the pending legislation.

The moratorium, Brody said, could also give opponents of issuing the special licenses time to pass a bill instructing Division of Motor Vehicles to end the practice entirely. 

"It doesn't set any policy whatsoever. It just gives everybody time to look at it," Brody said.

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  • junkmail5 Feb 22, 1:45 p.m.

    If they're 31 years old they have had plenty of time to apply for legal status- aspenstreet1717

    No they didn't actually.

    If you are here illegally you can NOT apply to be here legally until you have left the country for 10 years.

    So they'd have to have packed up at 18, moved back to a nation they know nothing about, don't know anyone in, and possibly don't even speak the language of.

    Then spend 10 years there.

    And first THEN be able to apply to go back to the only home they had ever known, with no guarantee they'd get back in.

    That's insane to suggest that's a reasonable option for anybody.

  • dontstopnow Feb 22, 12:40 p.m.

    ILLEGAL!!!!! What the heck about that is misunderstood here??? everything obviously.

  • aspenstreet1717 Feb 22, 12:35 p.m.

    If they're 31 years old they have had plenty of time to apply for legal status. They chose not to. Waiting for an amnesty. adios.

  • junkmail5 Feb 22, 10:32 a.m.

    Some of these "children" are 31 years old. Yes, I do think they've had a choice at this point.- Morrigan

    What choice, exactly?

    You wanted them, when they turned 18, to self-deport themselves to a country they have no memory of, know nobody in, and might not even speak the language of?

    that's not really choice. Not a sane one anyway.

  • wa4mjf Feb 22, 8:01 a.m.

    The N&O web site and below the fold on the print paper has a pix of the vertical license for those who think that they will look like citizens' DLs. There were some folks yesterday that did not believe Tata apparently.

  • Terkel Feb 21, 8:37 p.m.

    "But, do you think these children had a choice in the matter of becoming illegal immigrants?"

    Some of these "children" are 31 years old. Yes, I do think they've had a choice at this point.

    Which reminds me. What does 0bama have planned for the infant-to-14 age range that he's not telling us till he's ready to force it? Surely he doesn't plan to split families? That's what I thought, everybody gets to stay after all.

  • rosannedisney Feb 21, 6:08 p.m.

    Well stated, kbrianf.

    For myself, I have no issue with thoughtful arguments but the tone of hatred spewed by so many is disheartening.

  • wa4mjf Feb 21, 5:39 p.m.

    admyank,they have work permits and docs that their deportation has been suspended for 2 years from INS or a successor agency.

  • admyank Feb 21, 5:31 p.m.

    "These licenses will be vertical, not horizontal, and clearly state that the holder is an illegal alien and that they convey nothing but driving privileges."

    You seem to miss one very important thing. A drivers license, when conveyed to another state that does not have that restriction - will be convered to a regular drivers license.

    What does a drivers license convey? It conveys that they have shown evidence that they are a Citizen. Here is the list of documents required:

    1. Proof of Age and Identity.
    2. Proof of Social Security.
    3. Proof of Residency.
    4. Proof of Liability Insurance.

    #1-4 are often forged instruments, that being said on #3:

    If you are a U.S. citizen and a first-time customer in North Carolina, you must show proof of your residence address in this state.

    If you are not a U.S. citizen, you must provide documentation issued by the U.S. government indicating legal presence.

    Now, I don't know about you, but the law would give them the same rights as a legal.

  • wa4mjf Feb 21, 5:27 p.m.

    not under current law set to go into effect on march 25. illegals would get a license that looked just like anybody else's. the proposed law discussed in this article delays the enactment of that law by two months so that time would be allowed to consider various alternatives, including the vertical license alternative that you mentioned.
    Click to view my profile golorealist

    Tata said that is what they would be like and that is why not issued right away, so that the changes could be made. Also, why he revoked the 13 already out. Are u saying he isn't telling the truth?

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