Raleigh, N.C. — Certain teachers and other volunteers could be designated as "school safety marshals" and be allowed to carry firearms in emergency situations under a bill filed by Sen. Stan Bingham, R-Davidson.
Bingham said that he had met with sheriffs to talk about how school safety could be increased in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting.
There have been suggestions that any teacher with a concealed handgun permit be allowed to carry it onto educational property.
But Bingham said that concealed carry permit holders have only a few hours of training and are not necessarily required to practice with their weapons as a law enforcement officials are.
"That's not near enough training," he said.
Rather, Senate Bill 27 would call for the North Carolina Criminal Justice Education and Training Standards Commission to come up with a training regimen for volunteers.
Bingham said he envisioned teachers who were retired from the military as ideal candidates. He said the bill would also allow for volunteers who live near schools to be trained.
As explained by Bingham, the bill would not call for marshals to be armed full time. Rather, they would respond to a lock-box to retrieve a firearm in case of an intruder. That procedure is not specifically outlined in the bill.
Many school districts in urban areas where there are lots of law enforcement nearby may not feel the need for such volunteers, he said.
"This may help rural districts, where help is more than a few minutes away," he said.




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Already addressed.
1) The gun is locked up in this idea
2) Even not locked up they make retention holsters (someone even linked a video earlier showing how it stops this scenario)
Apparently even the folks in Newtown conneticuit have figured out the best way to stop an armed bad guy is with an armed good guy-
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Newtown-Votes-for-Armed-School-Officers-189320221.html?dr
February 1, 2013 6:06 p.m.
February 1, 2013 5:26 p.m.
Some people that make the laws need to sit back and think and maybe a little light will go off in their heads and go "Hey this isn't a good idea after all"
February 1, 2013 4:51 p.m.
No, it's really not.
You can tell, because such guards have been in schools for years or decades in much of the country, and what you describe doesn't happen.
So reality trumps your "what is likely" scaremongering.
February 1, 2013 3:47 p.m.
February 1, 2013 3:29 p.m.
the same thing that happens when the armed guards already in all the other schools go nuts.
or the armed guards in banks
Or the armed guards anywhere else in the US.
Which is virtually never as far as I can tell.
February 1, 2013 3:13 p.m.
Sounds like we have another "kid" to protect from his/her own self. Did children write some of these posts?"
Its called sarcasm.......
February 1, 2013 3:10 p.m.
Fine in theory but what is more likely is the extra guns in the schools will simply increase the numbers of people "going postal" and the number of accidents. Death toll will likely rise not fall. Unless these are fully trained cops this is a bad idea and a waste of money......we will always have nuts but what we can do is make it very hard for them to get a gun.
February 1, 2013 2:34 p.m.
and how much are you going to raise taxes so that you can have a hobby?
February 1, 2013 2:31 p.m.
That was an individual walking in off the street intending on trading/selling his personal weapon. The "trained" vendors, workers, etc had not touched the gun before it "went off". This explains how even "untrained" adults don't know enough to unload a gun before taking into a place like that-or even how to handle it. Training (same as LEOs) received by volunteers can help protect my children any time they wish to........and I hope they shoot dead anyone who tries to harm my child or any other.
February 1, 2013 1:38 p.m.
Sounds like we have another "kid" to protect from his/her own self. Did children write some of these posts?
February 1, 2013 1:32 p.m.
OK, then I'm sure you could "opt out" of protection of your kids by trained volunteers.
February 1, 2013 1:28 p.m.
Well said,,, and Thanks for your service !!!
February 1, 2013 12:57 p.m.
Which is it too many guns? or One off chance in ten years ???
One off chance in ten years ???
What are the odds of "one off chance in ten years"
Please can someone cipher that for me? How would do you do that? by hours, days
I'm readin' smart but not all that number smart,
I understand the odds of getting stuck by lightnin' are very high and so are the odds of winnin' the lottery, but people do win the lottery and people do get stuck by lightnin'
So again,,, what are the odds of : one off chance in ten years?
Please,,,
If the threat is near zero, or so miniscule it does not justify owning a gun or school shootings are so rare,,, Why all the fuss?
February 1, 2013 12:53 p.m.
True, a tactical course of instruction and qualification could be put together to cover this specific scenario.
February 1, 2013 12:43 p.m.
February 1, 2013 12:37 p.m.
Actually, they had a valid point because there have been cases when a person brought a gun to school but were talked down.
Those sort of situations should be part of any training.
February 1, 2013 12:00 p.m.
They can learn about firearms and laws in a normal conceal carry class. I want them to take extra tactical and situational training specifically geared toward encounters within a school setting.
February 1, 2013 11:57 a.m.
They're mostly normal people, that you encounter every day. You're irrational because your religion is being anti-gun.
"and who is going to pay for that?" - Grand Union
School budget, or perhaps the volunteers pay their own way.
"so why not have Police?" - Grand Union
Why didn't you ask about who was going to pay for that? Oh right, hypocrisy. But police MIGHT be okay, except I think their general training is not enough.
"or how about we stop crazy folks getting guns" - Grand Union
Great idea as long as it's reasonable, and constitutional. But it won't eliminate all crazies, so let's also have a plan to actually STOP them in the act.
February 1, 2013 11:52 a.m.
Yes, because clearly a guy who is already in the middle of a school shooting is totally calm and rational otherwise. We don't want to do anything that might upset him!
February 1, 2013 11:45 a.m.
February 1, 2013 11:35 a.m.
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February 1, 2013 11:26 a.m.
Also, you may end up escalating a situation. It may agitate the intruder and he may end up just shooting people out of feeling cornered versus talking the guy out of a situation possibly. We are assuming that the person is just going in and shooting right away. Not always the case.
Also the volunteer or teacher may miss the intended target and hit a bystander. It's not as easy as it looks to shoot and hit what you are aiming for. Takes a lot of practice and training.
Finally, knowing how to shoot a gun and actually killing someone are worlds apart. You have to account for the teacher or volunteer freezing when the moment of truth arose to actually pull the trigger.
February 1, 2013 11:22 a.m.
There was a recent security guard robery (on video) that proved this point exactly. The robbers couldn't get his gun, but as soon as he had a chance he was able to draw quickly.
"A concealed weapon may not help you" - superman
True. But it also might save your life, as has been shown time and time and time again.
"You cant stop a train--there are just too many ways that things can happen." - superman
As thousands upon thousands of cases prove otherwise, you can stop a criminal with a firearm. Just because it's no guarantee doesn't mean we shouldn't at least try to stop them. Giving up and being sheep is not the solution.
February 1, 2013 11:13 a.m.
February 1, 2013 11:03 a.m.
Nothing, because in this proposal the gun is locked up someplace.
Even if it wasn't (and honestly shouldn't be) there are retention holsters that make it very difficult for someone to "grab" your gun away from you while still enabling the wearer to draw it fairly quickly when needed.
A concealed weapon may not help you. Remember Rambo has the element of suprise.- superman
and obviously if something is only helpful SOME of the time we just shouldn't bother with it, right?
February 1, 2013 11:00 a.m.
What country are you from?
February 1, 2013 10:58 a.m.
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February 1, 2013 10:34 a.m.
Also, in other states, apparently concealed carry folks can eat soup and salad at Olive Garden without shooting up the place but apparently our lawmakers think the folks from North Carolina can't handle that. It irks me that people ignorant of firearms and their usage are making the laws concerning their use.
February 1, 2013 10:16 a.m.
February 1, 2013 10:13 a.m.
According the delusional Grand Union and others of that, uh, style of "thinking", that never happens. The Georgia mom that stopped a crowbar wielding intruder from killing her and her two kids??? ....never happened...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/10/us/home-invasion-gun-rights/index.html?iref=allsearch
"AFAIK there's basically 0 cases of the police showing up and killing the good guy 10 minutes after the incident is already resolved" - junkmail5
Well, there are cases of the police showing up and killing their fellow officers by friendly fire. I wonder why the anti-gunners don't scream for the disarming of the police?
February 1, 2013 10:09 a.m.
February 1, 2013 10:05 a.m.
No it doesn't. It's a single incident. You can't make blanket statements and judgments from a single incident.
February 1, 2013 10:04 a.m.
It might need some tweaking, but at least it's a proposal to actually STOP an ACTIVE shooter.
February 1, 2013 9:57 a.m.
Why would that matter?
By the time the cops get there there won't be both good and bad shooters still alive.
That's sort of the point of having the good shooter there, rather than waiting for him to show up in a police car after the bad guy killed everyone.
There's thousands of cases of conceal carry folks stopping crimes, and AFAIK there's basically 0 cases of the police showing up and killing the good guy 10 minutes after the incident is already resolved.
It's yet another imaginary fear from people scared of properly used firearms.
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