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Bill would allow for arming school volunteers

Posted January 31, 2013
Updated February 1, 2013

— Certain teachers and other volunteers could be designated as "school safety marshals" and be allowed to carry firearms in emergency situations under a bill filed by Sen. Stan Bingham, R-Davidson. 

Bingham said that he had met with sheriffs to talk about how school safety could be increased in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting.

There have been suggestions that any teacher with a concealed handgun permit be allowed to carry it onto educational property. 

But Bingham said that concealed carry permit holders have only a few hours of training and are not necessarily required to practice with their weapons as a law enforcement officials are.

"That's not near enough training," he said.

Rather, Senate Bill 27 would call for the North Carolina Criminal Justice Education and Training Standards Commission to come up with a training regimen for volunteers.

Bingham said he envisioned teachers who were retired from the military as ideal candidates. He said the bill would also allow for volunteers who live near schools to be trained.

As explained by Bingham, the bill would not call for marshals to be armed full time. Rather, they would respond to a lock-box to retrieve a firearm in case of an intruder. That procedure is not specifically outlined in the bill. 

Many school districts in urban areas where there are lots of law enforcement nearby may not feel the need for such volunteers, he said.

"This may help rural districts, where help is more than a few minutes away," he said. 

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  • timexliving Feb 5, 7:00 p.m.

    Teachers carrying guns is a bad idea. Let the teachers teach and the policemen police.

  • birkie74693 Feb 4, 3:50 p.m.

    Yep--more guns will make us safer!

    If a fireworks plant explodes, let's build 100 replacements--more fireworks plants will make us safer! If one neighborhood gets cholera in its water supply, let's put cholera in 1000 towns' water supplies! More guns make us SAFER! And Jesus decides who wins high-school football games by giving them to the team that prays hardest.

  • delta29alpha Feb 1, 9:27 p.m.

    So then the financial (and criminal) liability question should be of no real concern and easy to answer.
    bawolf887

    If an officer does the same thing then usually the county, city or state is named in the litigation. The officer is covered by the employers insurance.
    The whole insurance thing would have to be worked out depending on how the job is defined in the bill. If the job is sanctioned as an assignment or just allowed as a private act, I think the employer is held as a co-defendant in litigation.

  • delta29alpha Feb 1, 8:09 p.m.

    My only question is who is liable financially for any mistakes made, because we all know eventually an innocent will be shot by a guard. bawolf887

    Who is liable when an officer does the same thing? usually the city , state or county that he works for.

  • straight forward Feb 1, 8:07 p.m.

    Liability is a whole other topic. If a guard accidentally shoots an innocent person while engaged in the act of attempting to save lives, then he or she should be exempt from any financial liability. Money doesn't bring back lost lives or happiness. That's why the standards should be elevated, and no less than 3-5 years of law enforcement experience should be a requirement. You can train and attend classes all you want, but without true life experience in law enforcement all that training will probably go out the window when an active shooter situation presents itself. Even the most experienced LEO's pucker when involved in a shoot out with an individual...could you imagine what an inexperienced volunteer would go through?

  • junkmail5 Feb 1, 8:01 p.m.

    So then the financial (and criminal) liability question should be of no real concern and easy to answer.
    bawolf887

    Sure, the school would (or district/etc)

    Just like if a cafeteria worker scalded you with hot food... or a school bus driver ran you over.

  • bawolf887 Feb 1, 7:57 p.m.

    Except, we don't.... because that doesn't generally happen in the thousands of schools that have had armed guards for years and years already all across the country.
    junkmail5

    So then the financial (and criminal) liability question should be of no real concern and easy to answer.

  • junkmail5 Feb 1, 7:52 p.m.

    My only question is who is liable financially for any mistakes made, because we all know eventually an innocent will be shot by a guard.
    bawolf887

    Except, we don't.... because that doesn't generally happen in the thousands of schools that have had armed guards for years and years already all across the country.

  • bawolf887 Feb 1, 7:44 p.m.

    Whether the armed guards are ex-cops, ex military, secret service, fbi.... or just regular people, a license earned via a significant training program of both classroom and field training in both weapons and negotiation tactics should be required. And in keeping with our conservative brethren, let the training be paid for with a gun and ammo tax, since accesibility of both is the reason this is an important topic.

    My only question is who is liable financially for any mistakes made, because we all know eventually an innocent will be shot by a guard.

  • straight forward Feb 1, 7:05 p.m.

    How simple would it be to bring in retired law enforcement officers and give them a full-time job as a School resource Officer? At the very least, we know that they have at least 25-30 years of law enforcement training and experience. Or better yet...appoint veteran Law Enforcement Officers as school resource Officers! Let's use the taxpayers money to employ More Officers instead of using it for other nonsense! Sounds like common sense. NOT hand a bunch of inexperienced yahoos a gun and call them "school safety marshals...Really??? How about asking local law enforcement and Sheriff Depts. to come up with a plan instead of asking a bunch of civilian yahoos>

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