Education

'Red for ed' extends beyond protests, into classrooms

Posted August 14, 2013

— Teachers who wore "red for public ed" in recent weeks during protests at the state legislature say they're bringing the color into their classroom wardrobes this fall. 

"Red is the color of passion and Lord knows, our group feels passionate about this," said Angie Scioli, a history teacher at Leesville Road High School in Raleigh. "It's also about love. We love what we do."

Scioli is among a group of educators behind the "Red 4 Ed NC" campaign, which is encouraging teachers and supporters to wear red on Wednesdays in protest against the state budget. The spending plan signed Gov. Pat McCrory last month doesn't include raises for North Carolina's teachers – among the lowest paid in the country.

"If we really want the best and brightest in our classrooms, we've got to get the best and brightest to look at teaching," Scioli said.

Angie Scioli Teachers launch 'Red 4 Ed NC' campaign to protest budget

The group plans to wear red every Wednesday until better laws are passed, she said, but they won't let the campaign detract from their primary concern – teaching students.

"We all know teachers don't get in it for money, but there's a minimum amount of money you need to be able to support you family," she said.  

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  • rocket Aug 16, 3:31 p.m.

    "The cost of living doesn't affect most professions in NC all that much. In fact, using NC BLS data, many professions make more than the national mean here in NC."

    That's all fine and good... if you are comparing teacher salaries to the national mean and then comparing that to the difference between other professions and the national mean. However, when you say North Carolina ranks 47th in the nation in teacher's salaries, that has to be put into context. Of course we pay less than New York, New Jersey, Maryland, California, etc, etc, etc because all jobs pay more in those states and it is more expensive to live in those states. Again, I'm not trying to say that we would be near the top if the numbers were adjusted. But I also seriously doubt we would be so close to the bottom.

  • Plenty Coups Aug 16, 1:17 p.m.

    "My point is tax payers are already stretched thin so where is more money supposed to come from? "

    We had a surplus this year. The republicans had other priorities.

  • Plenty Coups Aug 16, 1:16 p.m.

    rocket-"Yes I get your point but you are wrong. I make less working in NC than I could in other states. But I'm OK with that because I realize my cost of living would also go up. It works that way with most professions and I don't understand why you keep saying it doesn't"

    No, I'm not wrong and I can back up my claims using Bureau of Labor Statistics data. No other profession in NC has their pay so far below the national mean. So even if you make less and even if other professions make slightly less, none of them make as little as NC teachers in comparison to the national average for their occupations. The cost of living doesn't affect most professions in NC all that much. In fact, using NC BLS data, many professions make more than the national mean here in NC.

  • rocket Aug 16, 9:07 a.m.

    "Free lunches are federally funded, but that's only your second biggest fail here: You are willing to pit feeding hungry kids vs treating teachers w/ respect. That's disgusting."

    Fair enough on the correction but in the end the money all comes from the same place. Tax payers. My point is tax payers are already stretched thin so where is more money supposed to come from? If everybody is going to expect a piece of the pie, then they are going to have to settle for a smaller piece.

  • rocket Aug 16, 9:02 a.m.

    "For you to stress that teachers should be paid less because of the cost of living, you would also have to acknowledge that other professions should then pay the same lesser amount because of the lower cost of living here. They don't. Get my point?"

    Yes I get your point but you are wrong. I make less working in NC than I could in other states. But I'm OK with that because I realize my cost of living would also go up. It works that way with most professions and I don't understand why you keep saying it doesn't. To imply that cost of living and wage levels do not vary state to state for most professions is simply flawed thinking and it shows a lack of understanding of basic economics. And this whole time, I'm not even making the argument that teachers are payed well. I'm just saying if you want to rank NC against other states you have to take these things into consideration.

  • rocket Aug 16, 8:56 a.m.

    "So...again...your point is not a good one."

    Except you are still here.

  • nceducator79 Aug 15, 6:42 p.m.

    rocket,

    You keep talking about cost of living. Well...I'm from the north and I moved here knowing I'd take a pay cut but was okay with that because of cost of living. However, I haven't had a raise in 5 years now. I could move back north, earn $70-$80K a year in many districts with my soon to be master's degree. If I was earning what I should be in NC right now, with raises and such, that wouldn't really be a huge raise for me. But, with what I earn now, it's very enticing. Or, I could move to any neighboring state, with a low cost of living, and earn more. And...the only reason I earn as much as I do, is because I work extra hours for contract money when it is available to me. Up north, I would just automatically earn more.

    So...again...your point is not a good one.

  • Plenty Coups Aug 15, 6:08 p.m.

    lovelyhowell-"Democrats and GOP have failed the teachers here in NC, dont blame it on one party, its both."

    jackfish-"Okay. Point taken... Now let's get back to focusing on the one and only one party currently in power who has most recently done multiple things detrimental to and disrespectful of teachers."

    Or conveniently forget that democrats gave raises in every year from 1992-2008 over united republican opposition. (except for republican Gov. Jim Martin who had to overcome his own party in 1992-1993)Even Perdue tried to give raises her last 2 years but was blocked by republicans and democrats never ever took away Master's level pay or tenure. Sure both parties are to blame somewhat, but it's not at all truthful to say that they are equally to blame.

  • jackflash123 Aug 15, 5:57 p.m.

    "My biggest complaint is when "teachers" (who deserve more money) complain about not getting a raise, they NEVER mention that they are state employees just as much as regular state employees. All deserve a raise, not one group more than another!!"

    This article is specific to teachers. What do all other state employees have to do w/ this? How come every time anyone focuses on teachers, people like you whine that all state employees ought to be included? That strikes me as a deliberate distraction and a sign that you just simply don't care about teachers at all. It's selfish. I've said this before: I guarantee you that if there was an article about some other group of state employees who were being treated poorly, you wouldn't find a single teacher chiming in w/, "Waaaah, what about us?!?" comments.

  • jackflash123 Aug 15, 5:53 p.m.

    "Maybe if weren't paying for so many free lunches, we could afford to give the teachers a raise."

    Free lunches are federally funded, but that's only your second biggest fail here: You are willing to pit feeding hungry kids vs treating teachers w/ respect. That's disgusting.

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